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Sat, 24 May 2008 12:42:10 +0000

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Sat, 24 May 2008 12:22:21 +0000

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By: JoyP

JoyP — Sat, 24 May 2008 04:00:41 +0000

Elen – good point. I hadn't thought of that before. How would she reconcile these two different factions during the GE? Tdiem – I'm also one of her “demographic”. What's amazing to me, with the exception of my daughter and my mother-in-law, I keep running into Obama supporters, some my age and older. Because I am secure in my gender, I'll vote for whom I please, not because we share the same gender. I don't think that makes me sexist.

By: tdiem

tdiem — Sat, 24 May 2008 01:53:29 +0000

Hillary Clinton never publically promoted women or herself as a woman throughout her campaign; she played herself as a tough Rocky Balboa and called out Barack Obama as a wimp who “couldn't take the heat.” She said she was “ready on day one” and could “take any call that came at 3 AM.” But when she is losing she says “whah whah–they don't like me cause I'm a girl.” Double speak and shell game of outrageous proportions.

As a woman in Hillary's so called “demographic” who has supported Obama from the beginning, I would love to see a woman as POTUS but absolutely never wanted it to be her. That isn't sexist–it is my right to have my own informed choice with my one vote.

By: TomHilton

TomHilton — Fri, 23 May 2008 20:26:29 +0000

"Is the charge of sexism in the treatment of Senator Hillary Clinton something to be seriously ponder, or a basically political rationalization and a talking point?"

The answer is c), both. Yes, there has been a ton of vicious sexism thrown her way, and we should take that seriously. We should be asking ourselves whether we want this to be the kind of country where that kind of crap is acceptable. We should be calling it out for the vile hate speech it is.

But assuming Clinton loses, she can't blame it on the sexism. She ran a mediocre campaign, but Obama ran a truly spectacular campaign; she missed the big opportunity in dispersed fundraising, didn't have a back-up plan after February 5, and made a lot of killer mistakes. She started with between 40 and 45% back in 2007, and 6 months later has...between 40 and 45%. That's just not an effective campaign.

By: elen

elen — Fri, 23 May 2008 20:25:33 +0000

I have been pondering the following: Clinton has used supporters (i.e. Henry Cisneros in North Carolina) to stump for her on her immigration/amnesty plan which she strongly promoted to her Latino constituencies in Texas and California. One the other hand she is promoting strong support for the economic woes of the blue collar workers that blame many of these woes on immigration issues that she endorses and promotes. So the Latinos are not listening or reading about what she is telling her blue clollar workers and vice versa? How can she maintain 2 constituencies whose well-being, at least in their eyes, lies in policies that controvert each other. For example, run a survey in Kentucky and West Virginia asking those residents their opinion about the immigration/amnesty plan that she and her surrogates are promoting to the Latinos…What do you think would be the result of that survey??? Talk about a shell game.

By: Rudi

Rudi — Fri, 23 May 2008 20:15:19 +0000

Billary's problem isn't sexism, but their own incompetence(campaign) and arrogance(her inevitability as first woman POTUS). Did Obama hire Penn? Is Obama push for rules changes in Florida and Michigan? Is Obama short of money?

If Billary can't run a campaign without a Perot, how can she run this country?

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Below The Beltway » Blog Archive » Peggy Noonan Never Disappoints — Fri, 23 May 2008 18:42:13 +0000

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