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2. “Oh, and way to go belittling millions of Americans, guys”: Their positions and behaviors have earned the just-scratching-the-surface-of the analyses and critiques you see here.

3. “Pakistan … we're ignoring that”: No, we're not. We're aiding and propping the Musharraf regime as best we can without earning too much enmity from the wacky crowd in Pakistan and that here at home, because everything points to it being worse if he were to fall from power. As I've said before, the same is true with the Saudis (also arguably affecting us more than Iran is, other than our troops in Iraq). We're not fans of Musharraf or the Saudis (though the Bush-Cheney gang has oil ties that bind them more tightly to the Saudis than the rest of us will ever experience). The alternatives, though, are all but assured to be worse in both countries. (Only the naive and delusional believe that instant democracy is possible. Have they learned nothing from the Iraq situation they routinely decry?)

Oh, and way to go belittling millions of Americans, guys. That will surely help get your points across.

I would argue that at times they definitely are not naive. They are angry, resentful, or hateful toward the USA and the West (including Israel, PC demon) for no valid reason whatsoever — it is truly inverted morality as well as perception of reality.

You're too kind in being too willing to concede innocence and assume ignorance rather than address the deliberately destructive and nihillistic pathology (beyond merely that stupid, never-valid sense of “guilt”) we've seen since the late 1960s.

I made a post yesterday in which I referred to Europe as filling up with Muslims migrating to their continent for various and specific reasons and the response from one rather far left progressive was simply

O ohh.

LIke So what? The problem the progressive left continues to have in my opinion is not seeing the forest for the trees. They are not bad people. They are not misinformed people. They are not ignorant nor lack education. What they lack is a perspective of importance to all people and not just to themselves.

By that I mean they have their order of importance to things and anything that does not fall under that umbrella is to be ignored and labeled with condescension as the other sides Paranoid dellusions.

Too scoff at a nation filling with the very thing they hate as unimportant is just sheer lunacy. They despise religious zeal in the pursuit of government aims and yet the very Muslim people flooding into Europe bring with them a Religious zeal that makes the Religious right in America look like Atheists.

So having said that I must agree with DLS. They choose to be naive in order to remain focused on their agenda rather then simply being unintelligent or uninformed.

It's not winning votes any more. Oh, the tendency among some on the Left to be naive at best about threats by our adversaries is laughable to shameful, and their tendency to take the side of our enemies is more sinister. The lefties can't wish these facts away. The lefties' demented attempt to exploit security backfires, as it always should, among normal people. But the more conventional way in which this issue can be used to appeal to voters, or more basely to be exploited for the GOP's benefit, doesn't work in large numbers. The 2006 elections have shown this. This year's elections will show this as well.

Too bad Colin Powell never wanted to run in earneast for the Presidency, incidentally. Many of us would still vote for him today.