Comments on: Clinton’s Claim To Popular Vote Lead Claim: Campaign Rep Suggests Party Is Supreme Court In 2000 http://themoderatevoice.com/19796/clintons-claim-to-popular-vote-lead-claim-campaign-rep-suggests-party-is-supreme-court-in-2000/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:26:10 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: runasim http://themoderatevoice.com/19796/clintons-claim-to-popular-vote-lead-claim-campaign-rep-suggests-party-is-supreme-court-in-2000/comment-page-1/#comment-131136 runasim Thu, 22 May 2008 03:11:36 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/primaries/19796/clintons-claim-to-popular-vote-lead-claim-campaign-rep-suggests-party-is-supreme-court-in-2000/#comment-131136 Others can anlyze this how they want. <br>For me, it boils down to only one thing. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. Others can anlyze this how they want.
For me, it boils down to only one thing. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game.

]]> By: Tully http://themoderatevoice.com/19796/clintons-claim-to-popular-vote-lead-claim-campaign-rep-suggests-party-is-supreme-court-in-2000/comment-page-1/#comment-131130 Tully Wed, 21 May 2008 18:37:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/primaries/19796/clintons-claim-to-popular-vote-lead-claim-campaign-rep-suggests-party-is-supreme-court-in-2000/#comment-131130 What lurxst said. The proper comparitive isn't the SCOTUS case. Total red herring. The argument is popular vote versus delegate count, which we heard <i>ad nauseum</i> after 2000 on Gore's behalf whining he had the popular vote when he lost in the electoral college. Sorry, popular vote only counts in so far as it determines delegate count. Otherwise meaningless. <br><br><i>Plus, what do the Clinton camp say about the states that held only a caucus and didn't have a "popular vote".</i><br><br>I haven't checked lately but I'm pretty sure they'll say that votes from any state that did not enumerate their caucuses but only have head-count estimates should NOT be counted in the "popular vote." Which doesn't alter point #1 above. Delegates count. Popular vote doesn't. <br><br>At this point Clinton leads in popular vote when Michigan and Florida are incuded, but not when Michigan alone is excluded. Puerto Rico on June 3 is expected to give her another 250K net votes as well, and PR has 55 delegates at stake. The total number of delegates that MI and FL <I>would have had</i> if not excluded by the DNC is over 300. That's the real battleground, and it goes in front of the Rules Committee on May 31st, BEFORE the PR vote. <br><br>Stock extra beer and popcorn. The circus is far from over.</I> What lurxst said. The proper comparitive isn't the SCOTUS case. Total red herring. The argument is popular vote versus delegate count, which we heard ad nauseum after 2000 on Gore's behalf whining he had the popular vote when he lost in the electoral college. Sorry, popular vote only counts in so far as it determines delegate count. Otherwise meaningless.

Plus, what do the Clinton camp say about the states that held only a caucus and didn't have a “popular vote”.

I haven't checked lately but I'm pretty sure they'll say that votes from any state that did not enumerate their caucuses but only have head-count estimates should NOT be counted in the “popular vote.” Which doesn't alter point #1 above. Delegates count. Popular vote doesn't.

At this point Clinton leads in popular vote when Michigan and Florida are incuded, but not when Michigan alone is excluded. Puerto Rico on June 3 is expected to give her another 250K net votes as well, and PR has 55 delegates at stake. The total number of delegates that MI and FL would have had if not excluded by the DNC is over 300. That's the real battleground, and it goes in front of the Rules Committee on May 31st, BEFORE the PR vote.

Stock extra beer and popcorn. The circus is far from over.

]]> By: lurxst http://themoderatevoice.com/19796/clintons-claim-to-popular-vote-lead-claim-campaign-rep-suggests-party-is-supreme-court-in-2000/comment-page-1/#comment-131128 lurxst Wed, 21 May 2008 17:45:51 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/primaries/19796/clintons-claim-to-popular-vote-lead-claim-campaign-rep-suggests-party-is-supreme-court-in-2000/#comment-131128 Too bad its a delegate race. <br><br>Plus, what do the Clinton camp say about the states that held only a caucus and didn't have a "popular vote". Too bad its a delegate race.

Plus, what do the Clinton camp say about the states that held only a caucus and didn't have a “popular vote”.

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