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Clinton’s New Stated Reason To Stay In Race: Karl Rove

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The enemy of my enemy is…? Senator Hillary Clinton — just like any other Democrat — has used comparing someone’s campaign tactics to Karl Rove as the ultimate political insult. But — in yet a new somersault in a campaign year when candidates are doing so many somersaults that they could win red ribbons in the Olympics — Clinton is citing an analysis by you-know-who as reason to stay in the Democratic nomination race:

Hillary Clinton defended her reasoning for staying in the presidential race Monday afternoon by pointing out that Karl Rove’s analysis shows her to be the strongest candidate against John McCain in November.

“There has been a lot of analysis about which of us is stronger to win against Sen. McCain, and I believe I am the stronger candidate,” said Clinton, repeating a line from her stump speech.

Then she veered from her usual argument.

“Just today I found some curious support for that position when one of the TV networks released an analysis done by – of all people – Karl Rove, saying that I was the stronger candidate,” said Clinton. “Somebody go a hold of his analysis and there it is.”

Clinton was referring to electoral maps drawn up by Karl Rove’s consulting firm that were obtained by ABC and forecast her currently leading McCain in the electoral college by 53 votes (259-206), while Obama trails McCain by 17 (238-221).

Will this argument work? The argument that superdelegates should tilt to Clinton because Rove’s analysis shows her to be a stronger candidate might not sit well with some superdelegates, Democrats and even pundits.

And conspiracy theory addicts will have a field day, as Los Angeles Times blogger Andrew Malcomb notes in a post titled: “Breaking News: Hillary Clinton now thinks Karl Rove’s a political genius”:

In an e-mail this evening Rove confirmed his most recent data does indeed show what Clinton is citing. And he passed along copies of his copyrighted maps, which we are publishing below.

O.K., now let’s see what this is really about. So Rove, the Republican Svengali of modern American politics, is really saying that Clinton is stronger because he wants Democrats to pick her because he secretly knows that she really isn’t stronger and that will backfire and actually help the GOP’s McCain.

Or, no, wait. Maybe Rove is really saying Clinton is stronger now because he knows Democrats won’t believe him so then they’ll do the opposite and choose Obama, which is really what Rove wants because he knows McCain is stronger against the freshman senator.

That’s probably it. Because Rove couldn’t possibly be telling the truth.

Since there are exclusive maps on the LAT blog, we won’t publish them on TMV…but do go to the link to see them yourself.

Clinton’s pointing to Rove as a reason to stay in shows the nature of partisan politics where demons can instantaneously lose their horns and regain instant respectability. Or people generally considered reasonable can be instantaneously given pitchforks.

Why, it seems like only yesterday when Clinton was seen as a sure thing that Rove was going after her (just like he now goes after Obama).

In January, Rove made a sarcastic remark about Clinton’s take in the Michigan primary.

Last summer, when Clinton seemed the “ineviitable” candidate, Rove called her a “fatally flawed” candidate.

Karl Rove was even doing Bill Clinton impersonations on Bill O’Reilly’s Fox News Show.

Hillary Clinton, in turn, said Rove “obssesses” about her.

But all that’s ancient history now, because Rove’s research shows she’s the strongest candidate.

Cover your ears, quickly, because the loud sound of the stampede of superdelegates wanting to endorse her due to the man Democrats love to hate could break your eardrums.

(Or not..)

  • Forget how well she might do in the general. My question is:

    Anyone else find it silly to try and draw out a potential electoral map six months in advance?

    It's like stating after Pennsylvania that Obama was going to get blown out of the water in Indiana.

    A lot of stuff changed between then and Indiana, never mind between now and November.
  • StockBoySF
    “Breaking News: Hillary Clinton now thinks Karl Rove’s a political genius”. I would imagine that Hillary has always thought (if not publicly) that Rove was a genius. I think he's a genius on strategy. Diabolical, but a genius in strategy nonetheless.

    These sorts of reports bother me (does the other party really think I'm a stronger candidate or not). I remember there was much ado in the 2004 race whether bin Laden really wanted Bush to win because Bush was weaker than Kerry or was it just the opposite.

    To muddle up the matter more I remember that Bush used both arguments to his benefit. Bush at one point in time said that bin Laden wanted him to win because bin Laden was hoping that the voters would then vote for Kerry. And then Bush said that bin Laden wanted Bush to lose because bin Laden wanted Kerry, who would be weaker on terrorism, as prez.

    And then didn't Rush Limbaugh say the same thing a couple weeks ago about wanting Hillary to win? Not only did Rush say one hting before the turnout, but afterwards when his "plan" didn't turn out the way he claimed he wanted, Limbaugh flip-flopped and said that the way it turned out was actually his real plan...

    This argument that Hillary is making just doesn't hold any weight with me.

    Besides how many people trust Rove, especially when we don't really know what he means and he'll spin the result so that he will claim to have gotten what he wanted all along?
  • pacatrue
    The comment is ripe for humor. The main one occurring to me relates to his "THE numbers" in the 2006 election.
  • RememberNovember
    Rove is still trying to stay in the spotlight...he's even more so now. So much for his "family" time.
  • aba23
    I'm not quite sure what "leading ... in the electoral college" is supposed to mean, but the numbers given are apparently some subsection of states that would likely go to one candidate or the other and omit the set of true swing states (which would differ depending on the Democratic nominee). In other words, it's more fuzzy math that is intended to give some purchase from which to support her (last) best argument.

    It may be time for Senator Clinton to stop litigating and start negotiating. (It may be that she already has.)
  • Rove might be a genius, if you believe his goal was to destroy the Republican party from the inside.
  • StockBoySF
    "Rove might be a genius..."

    Well his goal was to win elections and consolidate GOP power. He did so in such a diabolical fashion and with such... values... that couldn't stand up to scrutiny that much of America eventually caught on. In short he's a short term strategic planner, but not a long-term or big picture thinker.
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