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	<title>Comments on: Bush Says Don&#8217;t Blame Saudis For U.S. Oil Problems</title>
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		<title>By: artcollins</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 22:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Gas Pains at the Gas Pump.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tut, Tut!: These are the same poor Senators who:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;a) Do not allow oil drilling on the Alaskan North Slope&lt;br&gt;or in ANWAR (Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;b) Do not allow drilling in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico,&lt;br&gt;near Florida&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;c) Do not allow drilling off the California coast&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;d) Exclude 40% of BLM (Bureau of Land Management) lands&lt;br&gt;from oil or gas exploration, while maintaining govt.&lt;br&gt;ownership of 60% of the land in the West, 99% in&lt;br&gt;Alaska&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;e) Do not support or oppose nuclear power&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;f) Gutted nuclear fusion R &amp; D&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;g) Similar &quot;geniuses&quot; enacted California state law&lt;br&gt;forbidding nuclear plant construction in California&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;h) All of the above forced and cheered by the&lt;br&gt;environmentalist movement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a result of the above (surprise!), we are &quot;short&quot;&lt;br&gt;of energy &amp; oil. I am a &quot;dumb rocket engineer&quot;, but&lt;br&gt;even I can &quot;forecast&quot;: $150 / barrel in 2 months,&lt;br&gt;$200 / barrel in 6 months, $300 in 2 years….&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is another &quot;forecast&quot;: in view of the entrenched&lt;br&gt;mutually supportive environmentalist, oil &amp; coal&lt;br&gt;interests in this country, it will take us at least 5-20&lt;br&gt;years to &quot;get our act together&quot; on energy. We have&lt;br&gt;failed for the last 30. It will require &quot;retiring&quot; 1/2&lt;br&gt;- 2/3 of the current Congress.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This, in turn, will require that our citizens &quot;get a&lt;br&gt;belly full&quot; of ever higher energy &amp; resource prices.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way, a viable &quot;energy infrastructure&quot; is the&lt;br&gt;&quot;bedrock&quot; foundation for manufacturing, transportation,&lt;br&gt;the economy, and high-paying jobs. All the tap&lt;br&gt;dancing with money supply, interest rates and govt.&lt;br&gt;guarrantees is just &quot;smoke and mirrors&quot;. Even a &quot;six&lt;br&gt;pack beer drinking rocket engineer&quot;, unlike Congressmen&lt;br&gt;or Senators, can figure that out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So &quot;Good luck&quot; America. Enjoy the show!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps they should be called &quot;the Senators from OPEC?&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards, Art Collins,&lt;br&gt;Retired Nuclear &amp; Aerospace (Rocket) Engineer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Gas Pains at the Gas Pump.</p>
<p>Tut, Tut!: These are the same poor Senators who:</p>
<p>a) Do not allow oil drilling on the Alaskan North Slope<br />or in ANWAR (Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge)</p>
<p>b) Do not allow drilling in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico,<br />near Florida</p>
<p>c) Do not allow drilling off the California coast</p>
<p>d) Exclude 40% of BLM (Bureau of Land Management) lands<br />from oil or gas exploration, while maintaining govt.<br />ownership of 60% of the land in the West, 99% in<br />Alaska</p>
<p>e) Do not support or oppose nuclear power</p>
<p>f) Gutted nuclear fusion R &#038; D</p>
<p>g) Similar &#8220;geniuses&#8221; enacted California state law<br />forbidding nuclear plant construction in California</p>
<p>h) All of the above forced and cheered by the<br />environmentalist movement.</p>
<p>As a result of the above (surprise!), we are &#8220;short&#8221;<br />of energy &#038; oil. I am a &#8220;dumb rocket engineer&#8221;, but<br />even I can &#8220;forecast&#8221;: $150 / barrel in 2 months,<br />$200 / barrel in 6 months, $300 in 2 years….</p>
<p>Here is another &#8220;forecast&#8221;: in view of the entrenched<br />mutually supportive environmentalist, oil &#038; coal<br />interests in this country, it will take us at least 5-20<br />years to &#8220;get our act together&#8221; on energy. We have<br />failed for the last 30. It will require &#8220;retiring&#8221; 1/2<br />- 2/3 of the current Congress.</p>
<p>This, in turn, will require that our citizens &#8220;get a<br />belly full&#8221; of ever higher energy &#038; resource prices.</p>
<p>By the way, a viable &#8220;energy infrastructure&#8221; is the<br />&#8220;bedrock&#8221; foundation for manufacturing, transportation,<br />the economy, and high-paying jobs. All the tap<br />dancing with money supply, interest rates and govt.<br />guarrantees is just &#8220;smoke and mirrors&#8221;. Even a &#8220;six<br />pack beer drinking rocket engineer&#8221;, unlike Congressmen<br />or Senators, can figure that out.</p>
<p>So &#8220;Good luck&#8221; America. Enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Perhaps they should be called &#8220;the Senators from OPEC?&#8221;.</p>
<p>Regards, Art Collins,<br />Retired Nuclear &#038; Aerospace (Rocket) Engineer</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 04:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compromise is possible in theory,  but it breaks down if the government is so corporate friendly that it never gets aound to enforcing the terms of  the compromise.or collecting fines.&lt;br&gt;It breaks down iif the government changes the rules after the compromise has been reached and  work has begun.&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s what has been happening with strip mining, I believe.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The record on cleanng up oil spillages also has glaring holes of non-compliance to agreements, which are reduced, ignored, or forgiven.. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When there is no trust, compromise becomes too hard .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compromise is possible in theory,  but it breaks down if the government is so corporate friendly that it never gets aound to enforcing the terms of  the compromise.or collecting fines.<br />It breaks down iif the government changes the rules after the compromise has been reached and  work has begun.<br />That&#39;s what has been happening with strip mining, I believe.</p>
<p>The record on cleanng up oil spillages also has glaring holes of non-compliance to agreements, which are reduced, ignored, or forgiven.. </p>
<p>When there is no trust, compromise becomes too hard .</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our problem could only be &quot;solved&quot; by domestic exploration if we in fact had huge, readily drilled reserves. We don&#039;t. So what was the point other than telling another lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our problem could only be &#8220;solved&#8221; by domestic exploration if we in fact had huge, readily drilled reserves. We don&#39;t. So what was the point other than telling another lie?</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 23:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Bush is right about the Saudis not having much impact on the prices if they were to increase production.  The high price of oil is caused by quite a few factors and Saudi production is only one of them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which brings up an interesting point... Bush asked the Saudis to increase production to help the American public.  But the Saudis rebuked him.  Obviously Bush knows that the Saudis (if they had increased production) could not have influenced the prices.  So really all Bush was doing when he asked the Saudis to increase production to help the American economy was the appearance of doing something.  Bush and his energy buddies are all quite happy to be raking in the money due to high oil prices.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But when the Saudis rebuked Bush, he could play the &quot;victim&quot; and say he &quot;tried&quot; to do something about the high prices but the Saudis refused.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bush really needs to come up with real solutions to our problems rather than play these sorts of games that accomplish nothing other than cause divisions.  That&#039;s why he loves to attack the Dems- he wants to appear to be doing something, but it&#039;s always someone else&#039;s fault that nothing gets done.  Just to be clear, the Dems don&#039;t help matters along very much, but the way they&#039;ve been treated, especially when they were a minority in Congress contributed to their feelings of ill will.  Not that I&#039;m excusing it.... just pointing out the reality (at least that&#039;s how I frame it in my own mind).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Bush is right about the Saudis not having much impact on the prices if they were to increase production.  The high price of oil is caused by quite a few factors and Saudi production is only one of them.</p>
<p>Which brings up an interesting point&#8230; Bush asked the Saudis to increase production to help the American public.  But the Saudis rebuked him.  Obviously Bush knows that the Saudis (if they had increased production) could not have influenced the prices.  So really all Bush was doing when he asked the Saudis to increase production to help the American economy was the appearance of doing something.  Bush and his energy buddies are all quite happy to be raking in the money due to high oil prices.</p>
<p>But when the Saudis rebuked Bush, he could play the &#8220;victim&#8221; and say he &#8220;tried&#8221; to do something about the high prices but the Saudis refused.</p>
<p>Bush really needs to come up with real solutions to our problems rather than play these sorts of games that accomplish nothing other than cause divisions.  That&#39;s why he loves to attack the Dems- he wants to appear to be doing something, but it&#39;s always someone else&#39;s fault that nothing gets done.  Just to be clear, the Dems don&#39;t help matters along very much, but the way they&#39;ve been treated, especially when they were a minority in Congress contributed to their feelings of ill will.  Not that I&#39;m excusing it&#8230;. just pointing out the reality (at least that&#39;s how I frame it in my own mind).</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 23:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Bush&#039;s own party controlled Congress they couldn&#039;t get ANWAR passed.  I&#039;m against it, actually.  It&#039;s really kicking the can down the road, because no one really knows how much oil is there and one day it will run out.  Plus there is the environmental impact, not just from the greenhouse gases, but also the destruction of the habitat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We need to invest in alternative sources of energy instead of whining about lost battles and finger-pointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Bush&#39;s own party controlled Congress they couldn&#39;t get ANWAR passed.  I&#39;m against it, actually.  It&#39;s really kicking the can down the road, because no one really knows how much oil is there and one day it will run out.  Plus there is the environmental impact, not just from the greenhouse gases, but also the destruction of the habitat.</p>
<p>We need to invest in alternative sources of energy instead of whining about lost battles and finger-pointing.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going to Joe&#039;s last couple paragraphs about compromise, I&#039;m very against drilling in ANWAR, but I also understand that I can&#039;t dictate everything I want to the American people. Many intelligent, well-meaning folk disagree with me. I think there would be many in Congress who would be willing to compromise on a more encompassing energy plan. In other words, if I could get major increases in conservation, such as mpg, and renewable energies -- and I mean in a truly significant way -- then I might compromise on opening ANWAR. But few seem to search for such compromises. In fact, a quarter of the bills in the legislature seem there only to force the other party to take some political stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going to Joe&#39;s last couple paragraphs about compromise, I&#39;m very against drilling in ANWAR, but I also understand that I can&#39;t dictate everything I want to the American people. Many intelligent, well-meaning folk disagree with me. I think there would be many in Congress who would be willing to compromise on a more encompassing energy plan. In other words, if I could get major increases in conservation, such as mpg, and renewable energies &#8212; and I mean in a truly significant way &#8212; then I might compromise on opening ANWAR. But few seem to search for such compromises. In fact, a quarter of the bills in the legislature seem there only to force the other party to take some political stand.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If enough time elapses between Bush&#039;s anger mongering speeches, I can work up a litle empathy tor GWB, the man, if not GWB , the President.  Just last week, I was defending him to my European friends.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then he opens his mouth, again.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The man  just doesn&#039;t get that he represents ALL of America when he speaks in foreign lands,  Every time he washes his political dirty laundry on a foreign stage, he cheapens  America&#039;s image   I call that unpatriotic, and no lapel pin or posing with soldiers can make up for it.  He demeans the country and he demeans the office of the POTUS.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I often disagree with what the Dems in Congress try to do. i see, however, how Bush inspires the worst bulldog instincts in those who disagree with him, at home or abraod.  He doesn&#039;t talk to Congress; he issues orders.   He doesn&#039;t understand  how  his lack of respect, his disdain, inspires rebellion instead of  a reasoned response..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I often wonder how our conflict with Iran might have turned out  if  people who understand human dynamics had written his speeches.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Iit&#039;s very important that the next POTIS bring dignity back to the office and to the face of America abroad.  On that score, Obama seems best qualified., by far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If enough time elapses between Bush&#39;s anger mongering speeches, I can work up a litle empathy tor GWB, the man, if not GWB , the President.  Just last week, I was defending him to my European friends.</p>
<p>Then he opens his mouth, again&#8230;..</p>
<p>The man  just doesn&#39;t get that he represents ALL of America when he speaks in foreign lands,  Every time he washes his political dirty laundry on a foreign stage, he cheapens  America&#39;s image   I call that unpatriotic, and no lapel pin or posing with soldiers can make up for it.  He demeans the country and he demeans the office of the POTUS.</p>
<p>I often disagree with what the Dems in Congress try to do. i see, however, how Bush inspires the worst bulldog instincts in those who disagree with him, at home or abraod.  He doesn&#39;t talk to Congress; he issues orders.   He doesn&#39;t understand  how  his lack of respect, his disdain, inspires rebellion instead of  a reasoned response..</p>
<p>I often wonder how our conflict with Iran might have turned out  if  people who understand human dynamics had written his speeches.  </p>
<p>Iit&#39;s very important that the next POTIS bring dignity back to the office and to the face of America abroad.  On that score, Obama seems best qualified., by far.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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