Comments on: The 82% factor. Can’t we all just get along? http://themoderatevoice.com/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:12:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: CStanley http://themoderatevoice.com/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-135284 CStanley Thu, 15 May 2008 01:25:30 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-135284 Probably much easier to find things that 82% of Americans dislike or oppose, which is also probably why politics is often based around conjuring up negatives and fears. Probably much easier to find things that 82% of Americans dislike or oppose, which is also probably why politics is often based around conjuring up negatives and fears.

]]> By: Jazz http://themoderatevoice.com/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-135281 Jazz Wed, 14 May 2008 21:57:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-135281 Ooooo... good one, OutOfContext! Hadn't thought of that! Ooooo… good one, OutOfContext! Hadn't thought of that!

]]> By: OutOfContext http://themoderatevoice.com/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-135279 OutOfContext Wed, 14 May 2008 21:44:26 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-135279 November 2001, President Bush 87% approval. CNN poll. November 2001, President Bush 87% approval. CNN poll.

]]> By: superdestroyer http://themoderatevoice.com/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-135278 superdestroyer Wed, 14 May 2008 20:28:46 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-135278 runasim, there are actually fewer real individuals in that there are fewer people who will swing their votes between the two parties. If you ran a dead man for president and put (D) next to the name, the dead man would be about 45% of the vote. The equivalent candidate with (R) would get about 35% of the vote. That means a Republican presidential candidate needs to get most of the 20% of the vote that swings (actually less since they only need the swing voters in a few states). <br><br>As the demographics of the U.S. change, there will come a time when the automatic (D) number will be greater than 50%. People forget that one of the things helping Democrats is that blacks are voting at nearly the same rates as whites. If Hispanics voted at the same rate as whites, the Republican Party would be irrelevant today. <br><br>So the better question is what will dissatisfied people do when the U.S. is a one party state? runasim, there are actually fewer real individuals in that there are fewer people who will swing their votes between the two parties. If you ran a dead man for president and put (D) next to the name, the dead man would be about 45% of the vote. The equivalent candidate with (R) would get about 35% of the vote. That means a Republican presidential candidate needs to get most of the 20% of the vote that swings (actually less since they only need the swing voters in a few states).

As the demographics of the U.S. change, there will come a time when the automatic (D) number will be greater than 50%. People forget that one of the things helping Democrats is that blacks are voting at nearly the same rates as whites. If Hispanics voted at the same rate as whites, the Republican Party would be irrelevant today.

So the better question is what will dissatisfied people do when the U.S. is a one party state?

]]> By: runasim http://themoderatevoice.com/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-135273 runasim Wed, 14 May 2008 20:08:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-135273 Moran makes a great point, partially because it falls in line with my thinking about Independents. <br>It's the consensus opinion that the rise of Independent voters is a good thing..<br>But who are they? Can they really enhance more centrism or will they bring more instability?<br><br>My ideal would be to have many more independent minded members in both major parties, rather than independent people estalibhsing a separate political space. Too many parties appear to undermine stability in countries that have them. I wonder if party-like groupings would have the same effect?<br><br>If the 82 % dissatisfied all registered as Indepencdents. What would that lead to? Moran makes a great point, partially because it falls in line with my thinking about Independents.
It's the consensus opinion that the rise of Independent voters is a good thing..
But who are they? Can they really enhance more centrism or will they bring more instability?

My ideal would be to have many more independent minded members in both major parties, rather than independent people estalibhsing a separate political space. Too many parties appear to undermine stability in countries that have them. I wonder if party-like groupings would have the same effect?

If the 82 % dissatisfied all registered as Indepencdents. What would that lead to?

]]> By: pacatrue http://themoderatevoice.com/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-135271 pacatrue Wed, 14 May 2008 18:29:47 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-135271 Vacation? Everyone likes vacation. Which means that the way to get people to think the U.S. is headed in the right direction is to give more time off. Vacation? Everyone likes vacation. Which means that the way to get people to think the U.S. is headed in the right direction is to give more time off.

]]> By: Baseball » The 82% factor. Can’t we all just get along? http://themoderatevoice.com/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-112208 Baseball » The 82% factor. Can’t we all just get along? Wed, 14 May 2008 17:41:22 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/19623/the-82-factor-cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-112208 [...] Cardinals Diaspora wrote an interesting post today on The 82% factor. Canâ??t we all just get along?Here’s a quick excerptI bet we could find 18% who would vote no on puppies and kittens. Baseball? Nope. Not since the year of the big strike anyway. Hot dogs? … [...] [...] Cardinals Diaspora wrote an interesting post today on The 82% factor. Canâ??t we all just get along?Here’s a quick excerptI bet we could find 18% who would vote no on puppies and kittens. Baseball? Nope. Not since the year of the big strike anyway. Hot dogs? … [...]

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