Comments on: Does RNC Have 2,200 Pages Oppo Research On Clinton And Obama?

By: runasim

runasim — Fri, 09 May 2008 13:37:09 +0000

The practice of digging up dirt and other means of character assasination disgusts me.
Treating this like a sport ,i.e. who is more competent at it, is equally repellent.

By: Don Quijote

Don Quijote — Fri, 09 May 2008 13:34:59 +0000

Read Jeffrey Goldberg's outstanding analysis in The New Yorker [google him & it will come up] on the Democrats to understand why they always delude themselves more than the average voter, who is smarter than they think.

The average voter is a clueless moron who would have a hard time finding Canada on a map of the world. Why do you think we ended up with Shrub in the White House? Why do you think that despite being in the process of losing two wars, having record trade deficit & record budget deficits, having 80% of the population saying that the country is on the wrong track, McCain is running neck & neck with both Obama & Hillary?

As far throwing dirt at Hillary, at this point in time it's not going to work, people who hate her will believe in the dirt, and the people who hate the people who hate her (not the same thing as liking her ) will dismiss it as more pointless crap from the people who hate her. It's what happens when throw shit against the wall for twenty years, and have not been able to make anything stick.

By: daveinboca

daveinboca — Fri, 09 May 2008 10:12:06 +0000

Uh, the Dems are also full of lots of slime/distraction they can throw at the Repubs. It's just that generally the Repubs' mud sticks to the wall because

1] the Dems have the edge on more sleazy monetary transactions &

2] the Repubs are more competent in most complex multifaceted operations, given that more military & corporate backgrounds requiring actual skill-sets are to be found in the Repub ranks. Call it the Shrum rule.

The Dems DO have a slight edge on pop psychological tricks, & can gull the gullible & inexperienced young.
Plus they have identity politics, which in '08 is a two-edged sword which will cut them more than their opponents.

Read Jeffrey Goldberg's outstanding analysis in The New Yorker [google him & it will come up] on the Democrats to understand why they always delude themselves more than the average voter, who is smarter than they think.

I know some of this because I worked on the National Staff of two Dem prez campaigns & have seen their sausage-making techniques first-hand. Plus a few Senate & House races.

Also, Hillary may not accept a VP slot simply to avoid a lot of the true facts the Repubs have accumulated on her many quasi-legal or illegal missteps in the past.

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