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Hillary Clinton and the Negative Mother Complex

There has been much commentary in media about whether Hillary Clinton has been hit with more unbalanced attacks as a result of her gender.

It seems a significant amount of what is repeatedly written or said about her negatively, is not an effort to evaluate or weigh, but rather carries a tone of diatribe … as though the speaker/ writer feels they have been harmed by her personally in some way and is lashing out in return.

There have been irrational slimes written about her person, voice, laugh, emotive configuration, authenticity, family loyalties, humanity.

The cause of one-sided opprobrium in this case might be fueled by some kind of negative mother complex in the culture, let alone in some individuals.

In psychoanalysis, a negative complex is defined as a sudden surge in the psyche that causes cessation of full ability to see all sides of something or someone, and to instead, insist on a one-sided, unbalanced, or simple-minded viewpoint about the object, or person or idea in question… even with much evidence to the contrary.

The negative mother complex is as above, but also is understood as a sudden negative reaction to a woman in particular– that reminds a person in some way, consciously but more often unconsciously, of negative experiences with one’s earliest mother figure.

A person caught in a negative mother complex projects that the stranger or known woman before them now, is somehow like ‘the old mother’… and lashes out in the present as they might have wished to long ago when they were smaller and powerless against, say, an unfair or self-centered mother, or an ineffectual, helpless mother.

In a woman, her tone of voice especially, but also a certain kind of unassailability, or a form of confidence or sureness about oneself, certain physical features, certain fragrances, certain words, a certain look in the eyes, a certain slant to the mouth… can act as triggers, setting off the negative mother complex in a person.

The complex does not allow the person to perceive or react to the woman before them as human, just as they did not see the early mother figure as human, but rather as spiteful, selfish, imperious, or impervious to them… among others reactions.

Cultures can carry and react with negative complexes also, sometimes carrying

unconscious desire to punish anyone reminding them of an earlier time when ‘the people’ had not ‘enough’ respect or notice or nourishment from a governmental source they depended on…

Now, large groups in the culture jump at innocent leaders just because they carry some words or tones or features that somehow remind of the time the people were badly mistreated or mal-nurtured by the previous regime… and more so, reminding the people of the worst: their own powerlessness to change that dark time or intervene in it.

Without examination and conscious inquiry, the triggers reminiscent of past bad old times, are the catalyzing factors that cause projection of false attributes onto others.

The good side of being hypervigilant to leaders’ foibles, is that this is the psyche’s or the culture’s defense against being taken prisoner again, of being under an unjust person’s thumb again, against being made a fool of again.

The down side is that negative projection for hyper vigilance’s sake, may paint a public picture that looks nothing like the real and gifted person…ironically causing a culture to become a prisoner again anyway –of it’s own oldest wounds.

  • spirasol
    Yes, there is something there. Since I decided to support Obama, she has become the enemy in my mind, and the tactics that she and her husband are using, are not graceful, but expose a certain willingness to scratch the cover off to get what it is she wants. I notice too, that the working class part of me, loved to see her fall from grace, as the anointed Democratic candidate from the start. Still, I see, when I speak about her, there is more than just disproval of tactics involved. I believe the part of me that may have issues with women right down to my own mother emerges, and there I am screaming, or emoting strongly, my disdain, my rejection. Then I wake up somehow, come back to myself, wondering why so over the top. That's for filling in the pieces, Dr. Estes!
  • spirasol
    ....oops, I meant THANKS, Dr Estes!
  • archangel
    dear spirasol, lately, when people say a candidate is a "lightning rod" for negativity, I think that must mean they accidentally, sometimes innocently, just carry a lot of quasi triggers for others.

    I think it could be said, for instance, that during Gandhi's time, many Hindus and Muslims painted false faces on one another and then went to war not with the real person(s) but false face fighting false face because of the projections flying. (This can be translated to any opposing groups. Though in a perfect world, it would seem there are enough substantive issues for us all to discuss and solve, without throwing in all the false projections as well)

    I'll try to remember to you something I think was said by Gandhi re projections, although he did not call it by that name, but was speaking of how people mis-see one another... that in order to conquer the lesser self... or the over-culture in need of change--
    to expect that 'they" will first ignore your claims,
    next, they'll laugh at you
    then they'll fight you
    then finally, you'll win

    I think self-knowledge is that way too. We sometimes in our deciding our ideas about the outer world, ignore inquiring of ourselves at some depth; something seems to stand ready in many of us, to ridicule us for even attempting it. Then we fight with our complexes--everyone has them--- and eventually, a far more reasoned balance begins to prevail more and more.

    There are backslides, even in consciousness. We all have those too. But, part of what Gandhi and others known for trying to understand human nature at deeper levels, were saying in their worlds and words, was that a certain amount of self-knowing withdraws false projections from others... and thereby, self-knowing is a fundament for peace ...between warring factions, interior as well as worldly.

    Thank you for courage in sharing your process on this topic. You nailed it, and gave a good example of how projection can work in all of us

    dr.e
  • Neocon
    I have never thought that Hillary has been unduly lamblasted by those who hate her. Villify her and otherwise wish that she would just retire to a nursing home and take up crusading for better rec activities for the most eldest of senior citizens.

    The problem is not that Hillary has been harrangued for years and years and that every nook and cranny of her life has been exposed, talked about till no one even cares anymore.

    Enter Barak Obama. The Black Ilinois Senator who literaly just popped out of the woodwork just a few years ago.

    HIS life has not. Every nook and cranny are just now being exposed and discused and talked about.

    The incensed screaming comes from those who have cherished every moment of time in which other politicians such as George Bush and Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton were and have been castigated.

    Yet

    Yet they are livid with outrage that anyone would dare to villify, castigate and otherwise throw cold water in the face of the second coming......er I mean their progressive champion.

    So let me throw out a proposal to you in which I believe is the absolute truth of things to come.

    No man or woman can solve the problems that America and ultimately the world faces. No politician can solve our collective dilemnas. We have not the money to fight a war in Iraq. We have not the money to have health care for all.

    What we have is a congregation of babies demanding hand outs......Republicans and Democrats alike........who will not take no for an answer. As a result we have become a nation of whimps and crybabies whose every whim is met with instant gratification.

    And when its not..........or when the other guy gets something and we dont

    The result of all this is that Obama or Clinton placed in the White House will go thru the same Castration that George W. Bush went through. They will be whipped violently by the masses as their every whim is not met.

    Obama will be razed with hate filled rhetoric just as Bush has been. Just as Hillary has been. The time is rife with conteniousness by political hackeys who think for some bizarre reason that politicans can actually solve those issues that divide us the most.

    They cannot. The sooner Americans realize that the sooner the screaming and the hollaring and the hate filled rhetoric will stop and we will once again go back to being what has always made America strong.

    Tolerant.

    I understand Barak Obama's appeal. This is what he is trying to address. The problem is that if he is indeed God then we want to see some miracles. When he is not capable of presenting those to us then as the famous saying goes........

    "Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war....."

    8 years of Clinton bashing, followed by payback of 8 years of Bush Bashing will only be followed by another 4 or 8 years of Hillary or Obama bashing..........
  • spirasol
    Dear Neocon,

    It seems to me that Hillary and Bill have been investigated thoroughly at republican insistence and at taxpayer expense. Every aspect of their lives explored, turned over, and finally the crazy impeachment, and endless scrutiny of their private lives and Hillary's decisions about her husband after the affair.

    With Bush I feel it has been very different. The press has been swallowed up by corporations and in many cases become the mouthpiece for republicans and for the President. While has low ratings and is reported to be the lowest rated president of all time, it seems to have more to do with his actual record; his decisions, his actual blunders and what's more any attempt to investigate him or his cabinet is blocked by executive priviledge ...........so I think there is enough of a difference there to mention it.

    What I'm getting at is we were led to believe, falsely, that the Clintons were up to all kinds of shenanigans and most of came to believe it. Whereas with Bush, he has been up to his eyeballs in shenanigans, breaking laws, torture, etc, etc. and the populace is generally angry and upset over nearly all of his policies.

    About complaining: What's wrong with complaining. If you are unhappy or disagree with a policy why not express your self. In a manner your letter is a complaint lodged against the complainers.

    About Progressives: Since i think of myself as one, I am not investing all my marbles in either of the democratic candidates. In our system this is the only choice I have-- so I will likely choose Obama. But, if you think progressives are sold lock, stock and barrel on Obama, you are underestimating the intelligentsia.

    All that said, and all incredible issues at stake in the post Bush presidency, if Obama wants to bomb Iran, or continue to undercut the constitution, etc, etc, --you will hear at least one voice complaining.....mine.
  • archangel
    dear Neocon; well thought out re one layer at issue, re a kind of mother hubbard psychology of 'bare cupboards'... too many hands and mouths relying on one source only. Teaching dependence in order to garner and rule over is an old old strategy. Landlord /serf is a more recent example of same on smaller scale.

    In E. Eu, the landlord serf relationships were only broken by WWII (and there were beneficent as well as unjust landlord-serf relationships throughout the Euro farmlands of those times prior), which replaced them with Communism (with US and UK approval)... a promise to 'care for all the people through the fruits of their own labors.' Until five minutes later, when the comrades at the top had Mercedes and villas and the people had to stand in line for butter.

    There are other options. The how to ... ay, that is the sticking place (and re your 'dogs of war' quote, look for a h/t to you in a forthcoming article at tmv soon: here: http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blo... )

    I'd agree with you that many persons in high office are battered about by various persons, and I find some of the name-calling and cursing of, and ill-wishes for certain things to be done to Hillary Clinton, most definitely different than the usual... and aimed toward her as a female. And the idioms and images used are so over the top, it seems that more may be going on than just disliking a pol for their politics or choices in life.

    dear spirasol corporate managing/ control of communications in very few people's hands--Rupert, Clear Channel, et al, and the huge changes in communications law by the Regan admin and forward which allowed huge numbers of newspapers and radio and television stations to be held by one entity... you are accurate. In some ways, the conglomerates like Bertalsmann and Redstone and Murdock etc, have kept alive what might have died in the Internet age, including magazines. On the other hand, it appears the age of town crier hired by the king to say it the king's way is upon us.

    All the more reason to offset by publishing broadsides, in modern times called blogging/ internet.

    my .02 worth.

    dr.e
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