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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19292/of-presidents-politicians-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-151327</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 13:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocon- The reason guilt by association worked well with W, is that those defeated voted for his policies. That makes them fair game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocon- The reason guilt by association worked well with W, is that those defeated voted for his policies. That makes them fair game.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19292/of-presidents-politicians-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-151326</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly, will you quit pretending you&#039;re a Democrat already? I mean, Hillary praised McCain enough to show her true colors, didn&#039;t she? Admit that you really admire Bush and that&#039;s why you&#039;re so willing to vote for the man who has converted himself into a Bush clone while running for President. You love politicians who pander with absolutely unrealistic and deceptive claims like a gas tax holiday instead of someone who points out how foolish it is. Be proud of your stands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly, will you quit pretending you&#39;re a Democrat already? I mean, Hillary praised McCain enough to show her true colors, didn&#39;t she? Admit that you really admire Bush and that&#39;s why you&#39;re so willing to vote for the man who has converted himself into a Bush clone while running for President. You love politicians who pander with absolutely unrealistic and deceptive claims like a gas tax holiday instead of someone who points out how foolish it is. Be proud of your stands.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19292/of-presidents-politicians-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-151325</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not Obama&#039;s message and you know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s not Obama&#39;s message and you know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19292/of-presidents-politicians-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-151324</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krit &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barak Obama&#039;s message is very appealing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;America sucks.  GOD DAMN AMERICA.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barak Obama secretly agrees with me.  This from the single most influential person in his adult life by his own admission.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry but guilt by association worked with George W. Bush.  Its now going to work on Barak Obama as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krit </p>
<p>Barak Obama&#39;s message is very appealing.</p>
<p>America sucks.  GOD DAMN AMERICA.   </p>
<p>Barak Obama secretly agrees with me.  This from the single most influential person in his adult life by his own admission.</p>
<p>Sorry but guilt by association worked with George W. Bush.  Its now going to work on Barak Obama as well.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19292/of-presidents-politicians-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-151323</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Few things age one so badly as executive political power.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clinton in 1992 and Clinton in 2000 -- also from lively to prematurely aged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Few things age one so badly as executive political power.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clinton in 1992 and Clinton in 2000 &#8212; also from lively to prematurely aged.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19292/of-presidents-politicians-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-151322</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocon-George Bush and his party have ruined this country---his foreign policy has been a disaster for the US. The GOP leaves itself open to charges of racism by ignoring the black community and its concerns, in slight after slight, insult after insult. Obama is reaping the rewards of 8 years of GOP neglect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocon-George Bush and his party have ruined this country&#8212;his foreign policy has been a disaster for the US. The GOP leaves itself open to charges of racism by ignoring the black community and its concerns, in slight after slight, insult after insult. Obama is reaping the rewards of 8 years of GOP neglect.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19292/of-presidents-politicians-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-151321</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocon- You have no evidence besides your opinion that this is true. Obama has done nothing in public or private life that supports your accusations.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Most people in real life can be closely associated with at least one racist. The older generation of whites is notoriously more racist than the younger. I have a brother-in-law, a step-mother and a mother-in-law who are racist-- does that make me one because I continue to associate with them? Its embarassing but sometimes can&#039;t be helped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocon- You have no evidence besides your opinion that this is true. Obama has done nothing in public or private life that supports your accusations.</p>
<p> Most people in real life can be closely associated with at least one racist. The older generation of whites is notoriously more racist than the younger. I have a brother-in-law, a step-mother and a mother-in-law who are racist&#8211; does that make me one because I continue to associate with them? Its embarassing but sometimes can&#39;t be helped.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly_in_Cincinnati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly_in_Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 17:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama is the least-likely of the three to become a good, effective President. My party will be making a tremendous, quite possibly fatal mistake if it nominates him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama is the least-likely of the three to become a good, effective President. My party will be making a tremendous, quite possibly fatal mistake if it nominates him.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19292/of-presidents-politicians-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-151316</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 17:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reagan was successful after the Carter years, not because he sold hard truths, but because he sold hope. It was called optimism in America and the American spirit, but it was hope nonetheless. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama&#039;s appeal lies in his ability to counteract the deleterous effect of 8 years of Bush/Cheney fear-mongering on the American public&#039;s psyche.  That is the reason for his crossover appeal to blacks/whites, Republicans/Democrats/Independents. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Our country is at a low point as it was in 1979- with our reputation in the toilet internationally,  and the dollar at a low point coinciding with a credit crisis domestically. Americans have the sense that the great problems that face us- with the environment, health care, the economy and the energy crisis are not being faced head-on by our government.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama has done nothing to show that he&#039;s a racist. He continues to reject race as a factor and specifically rejects Wright&#039;s admittedly incendiary statements . What else can he do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reagan was successful after the Carter years, not because he sold hard truths, but because he sold hope. It was called optimism in America and the American spirit, but it was hope nonetheless. </p>
<p>Obama&#39;s appeal lies in his ability to counteract the deleterous effect of 8 years of Bush/Cheney fear-mongering on the American public&#39;s psyche.  That is the reason for his crossover appeal to blacks/whites, Republicans/Democrats/Independents. </p>
<p>Our country is at a low point as it was in 1979- with our reputation in the toilet internationally,  and the dollar at a low point coinciding with a credit crisis domestically. Americans have the sense that the great problems that face us- with the environment, health care, the economy and the energy crisis are not being faced head-on by our government.</p>
<p>Obama has done nothing to show that he&#39;s a racist. He continues to reject race as a factor and specifically rejects Wright&#39;s admittedly incendiary statements . What else can he do?</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who might that be Davebo?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The amazing Kreskin.   Capable of reading every mind except his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who might that be Davebo?</p></blockquote>
<p>The amazing Kreskin.   Capable of reading every mind except his own.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19292/of-presidents-politicians-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-151312</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocon is who he is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who might that be Davebo?  Who am I?  Someone who believes that Barak Obama is not who he claims to be suddenly makes me an evil person who collectively with all my Non Barak Obama disciples are responsible for some abstract price?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because I believe that Barak Obama would not make a good president I am singlehandely repsonsible for the downfall of America?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Neocon for a handle seems to infuriate people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Never&lt;br&gt;expect&lt;br&gt;objective &lt;br&gt;conversation &lt;br&gt;on&lt;br&gt;NET.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocon is who he is.</p>
<p>Who might that be Davebo?  Who am I?  Someone who believes that Barak Obama is not who he claims to be suddenly makes me an evil person who collectively with all my Non Barak Obama disciples are responsible for some abstract price?</p>
<p>Because I believe that Barak Obama would not make a good president I am singlehandely repsonsible for the downfall of America?</p>
<p>Neocon for a handle seems to infuriate people.</p>
<p>Never<br />expect<br />objective <br />conversation <br />on<br />NET.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocon is who he is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And America has payed the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocon is who he is.</p>
<p>And America has payed the price.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wright&#039;s outspoken criticisms of the United States have threatened Obama&#039;s candidacy. Obama initially refused to denounce his former pastor, but he did so this week after Wright suggested that Obama secretly agrees with him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;George Bush is who he is.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama has Hoodwinked the general population with his lies and deceit.  His pastor of 20 years who performed his marriage, baptised his children and mentored the man would never say what he said if it was not true.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barak Obama Agrees with the Rev. Wright but of course we all know thats not politicaly correct.  So the question becomes what jokes Barak Obama will pull on the American public once an American Hating president emmerges from the oval office with his policies in hand.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only racist in this campaign is Barak Obama.  Barak Obama is who he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wright&#39;s outspoken criticisms of the United States have threatened Obama&#39;s candidacy. Obama initially refused to denounce his former pastor, but he did so this week after Wright suggested that Obama secretly agrees with him.</p>
<p>George Bush is who he is.   </p>
<p>Obama has Hoodwinked the general population with his lies and deceit.  His pastor of 20 years who performed his marriage, baptised his children and mentored the man would never say what he said if it was not true.</p>
<p>Barak Obama Agrees with the Rev. Wright but of course we all know thats not politicaly correct.  So the question becomes what jokes Barak Obama will pull on the American public once an American Hating president emmerges from the oval office with his policies in hand.</p>
<p>The only racist in this campaign is Barak Obama.  Barak Obama is who he is.</p>
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		<title>By: thePajamaPundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>thePajamaPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with SD and Marlowecan to an extent... but hope is good too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope is better than war.  And by the looks of that new aircraft carrier headed toward Iran, we&#039;ve got PLENTY of war and very little hope.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m hardly a lefty, but I will admit that I would rather have higher taxes than an EXPLODING debt and war in several countries.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thepajamapundit.com/&quot;&gt;http://thepajamapundit.com/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with SD and Marlowecan to an extent&#8230; but hope is good too.</p>
<p>Hope is better than war.  And by the looks of that new aircraft carrier headed toward Iran, we&#39;ve got PLENTY of war and very little hope.</p>
<p>I&#39;m hardly a lefty, but I will admit that I would rather have higher taxes than an EXPLODING debt and war in several countries.</p>
<p><a href="http://thepajamapundit.com/">http://thepajamapundit.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 13:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture contrast is interesting.  Few things age one so badly as executive political power. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Folks on the Left mock Bush&#039;s description of his position as &quot;The Decider&quot; . . . but Bush captures the significance of the office well.  Representatives and Senators can be in office for decades with marginal effect . . . presidents age badly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look at similar pictures of FDR.  The Second World War effectively killed him.  Lincoln aged horribly too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the Soviet Union the Bolsheviks aged horribly.  A good proportion of the correspondence of Stalin, Bukharin, Dzerzhinsky et al was about their stomach complaints and health failings. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is amazing that people want to pursue executive power so intensely.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Superdestroyer said: &quot;Your post would have much more crediblity is you would actually reference a few hard truth that Senator Obama has spoken about.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I must agree with SD.  Obama has never been strong on hard truths.  He sells hope:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Remember the lyrics from the John Lennon song...&quot;Gimme some Truth&quot;:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;No short-haired yellow-bellied son of Tricky Dicky&#039;s gonna mother hubbard&lt;br&gt;soft-soap me with just a pocketful of hope&lt;br&gt;Money for dope, money for rope&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture contrast is interesting.  Few things age one so badly as executive political power. </p>
<p>Folks on the Left mock Bush&#39;s description of his position as &#8220;The Decider&#8221; . . . but Bush captures the significance of the office well.  Representatives and Senators can be in office for decades with marginal effect . . . presidents age badly.</p>
<p>Look at similar pictures of FDR.  The Second World War effectively killed him.  Lincoln aged horribly too.</p>
<p>In the Soviet Union the Bolsheviks aged horribly.  A good proportion of the correspondence of Stalin, Bukharin, Dzerzhinsky et al was about their stomach complaints and health failings. </p>
<p>It is amazing that people want to pursue executive power so intensely.</p>
<p>Superdestroyer said: &#8220;Your post would have much more crediblity is you would actually reference a few hard truth that Senator Obama has spoken about.&#8221;</p>
<p>I must agree with SD.  Obama has never been strong on hard truths.  He sells hope:</p>
<p>Remember the lyrics from the John Lennon song&#8230;&#8221;Gimme some Truth&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;No short-haired yellow-bellied son of Tricky Dicky&#39;s gonna mother hubbard<br />soft-soap me with just a pocketful of hope<br />Money for dope, money for rope&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: George Bush &#187; Of Presidents, Politicians &#38; Expectations</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Bush &#187; Of Presidents, Politicians &#38; Expectations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 13:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Comments from Left Field wrote an interesting post today on Of Presidents, Politicians &amp; ExpectationsHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt&#8230;without looking the worse for wear, but comparing George Bush’s stock &#8230; In this instance I taped the Bush photo over my computer (right next [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Comments from Left Field wrote an interesting post today on Of Presidents, Politicians &#38; ExpectationsHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt&#8230;without looking the worse for wear, but comparing George Bush’s stock &#8230; In this instance I taped the Bush photo over my computer (right next [...]</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 13:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post would have much more crediblity is you would actually reference a few hard truth that Senator Obama has spoken about.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forced racisl busing has been a disaster in the U.S., but he support it.  Urban inner city schools are a disaster but he supports them and wants to give them more money.  Unlimited immigration has been a disaster but Senator Obama wants more of it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many too many middle class whites understand that when Senator Obama says that he will increase taxes on others to create more government programs that they will be the &quot;others.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And a man to took over a year to figure out that he needed to tell Reverend Wright to sit down and shut up really doing any of the hard stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post would have much more crediblity is you would actually reference a few hard truth that Senator Obama has spoken about.  </p>
<p>Forced racisl busing has been a disaster in the U.S., but he support it.  Urban inner city schools are a disaster but he supports them and wants to give them more money.  Unlimited immigration has been a disaster but Senator Obama wants more of it.  </p>
<p>Many too many middle class whites understand that when Senator Obama says that he will increase taxes on others to create more government programs that they will be the &#8220;others.&#8221;</p>
<p>And a man to took over a year to figure out that he needed to tell Reverend Wright to sit down and shut up really doing any of the hard stuff?</p>
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