Comments on: 10 Hillary Positives for Those Still Undecided http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:37:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: freethinker http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138922 freethinker Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:48:40 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138922 If you think the Republicans are hostile to subsidized healthcare now, you can't even imagine how RADICAL it was for Hillary to push it back in the 90's! The naivite about just how motivated and invested the Republicans were and are to maintain the staus quo just amazes me. Their witch hunt started then and they wasted $70 million doing whatever they could to stop it. They still are! People's memories are short but mine is long and I commend her for strategically getting in there, crossing the aisle. She gets it and knows her opponent. She means to get it all done. If you think the Republicans are hostile to subsidized healthcare now, you can't even imagine how RADICAL it was for Hillary to push it back in the 90's! The naivite about just how motivated and invested the Republicans were and are to maintain the staus quo just amazes me. Their witch hunt started then and they wasted $70 million doing whatever they could to stop it. They still are! People's memories are short but mine is long and I commend her for strategically getting in there, crossing the aisle. She gets it and knows her opponent. She means to get it all done.

]]> By: freethinker http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138921 freethinker Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:36:03 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138921 If it weren't for Hillary, healthcare wouldn't even be on the table. She's pushed this idea for 20 years and had to convince everyone it was even a worthy subject. Like Gore with global warming, it has been a cause for her and like him, she's had to convince masses of "flat earth" believers. Now everyone is on board. Finally!! If it weren't for Hillary, healthcare wouldn't even be on the table. She's pushed this idea for 20 years and had to convince everyone it was even a worthy subject. Like Gore with global warming, it has been a cause for her and like him, she's had to convince masses of “flat earth” believers. Now everyone is on board. Finally!!

]]> By: use2bamuc http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138920 use2bamuc Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:29:06 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138920 Those of us with like minds....Keep Donating:<br><br>You can mail your contribution, made out to "Hillary Clinton for President," to the following address:<br><br>Hillary Clinton for President<br>4420 N. Fairfax Dr.<br>Arlington, VA 22203 Those of us with like minds….Keep Donating:

You can mail your contribution, made out to “Hillary Clinton for President,” to the following address:

Hillary Clinton for President
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Arlington, VA 22203

]]> By: MaryOK http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138919 MaryOK Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:34:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138919 I thought I heard her say in the debate that the gas holiday would only be appropriate if there was an offsetting windfall profits tax. That got my attention because here in Illinois, we did a gas tax holiday about 7 years ago and it definetly hurt the state. I thought Hillary's comments were more responsible. I thought I heard her say in the debate that the gas holiday would only be appropriate if there was an offsetting windfall profits tax. That got my attention because here in Illinois, we did a gas tax holiday about 7 years ago and it definetly hurt the state. I thought Hillary's comments were more responsible.

]]> By: ChrisWWW http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138918 ChrisWWW Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:51:03 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138918 I'll give you number 3 with the caveat that she totally botched her first attempt at health care reform. I'll give you number 3 with the caveat that she totally botched her first attempt at health care reform.

]]> By: election coverage http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-111869 election coverage Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:04:44 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-111869 [...] to prefer Hillary to any other candidate. 1. Hillary grasps economic concepts: knowledge a preshttp://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still...Be prepared as election season approaches Kinston Free PressAlthough the lion's share of this year's [...] [...] to prefer Hillary to any other candidate. 1. Hillary grasps economic concepts: knowledge a preshttp://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still…Be prepared as election season approaches Kinston Free PressAlthough the lion’s share of this year’s [...]

]]> By: Davebo http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138917 Davebo Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:54:32 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138917 <blockquote>So many of Clinton's supporters are ready to jump ship to McCain </blockquote><br><br>While I don't believe that many would, if many did it would certainly be a bad reflection on Clinton supporters.

So many of Clinton's supporters are ready to jump ship to McCain

While I don't believe that many would, if many did it would certainly be a bad reflection on Clinton supporters.

]]> By: Folkwolf101 http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138916 Folkwolf101 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:25:34 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138916 Nah Elrod, if you are only going to hold her to one event in her life, then sure she is a miserable failure at getting things done. However, that healthcare fiasco laid the groundwork to many of the bills she would later author, co-author, introduce, and get passed, this to say nothing of the many other bills she pushed through. Nah Elrod, if you are only going to hold her to one event in her life, then sure she is a miserable failure at getting things done. However, that healthcare fiasco laid the groundwork to many of the bills she would later author, co-author, introduce, and get passed, this to say nothing of the many other bills she pushed through.

]]> By: Folkwolf101 http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138915 Folkwolf101 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:21:49 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138915 Yes, especially the last two points, when coupled together. She is certainly tough enough to work across the aisles. How about thinking of them on the same ticket, for that will surely be necessary? So many of Clinton's supporters are ready to jump ship to McCain for all the mean spiritness from Obama's campaign staff. Together, they will have no problem beating McCain. Without HRC on the ticket, no matter how tirelessly she and Bill work at it, Obama will still lose. Yes, especially the last two points, when coupled together. She is certainly tough enough to work across the aisles. How about thinking of them on the same ticket, for that will surely be necessary? So many of Clinton's supporters are ready to jump ship to McCain for all the mean spiritness from Obama's campaign staff. Together, they will have no problem beating McCain. Without HRC on the ticket, no matter how tirelessly she and Bill work at it, Obama will still lose.

]]> By: pacatrue http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138914 pacatrue Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:57:42 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138914 I happen to disagree with various points and the characterization of how the campaigns have been run, but I very much welcome this post. It's good to see a nice long list of positives for Clinton instead of a list of negatives about the other candidate. I've started characterizing myself as both an Obama and a Clinton supporter, because I think both would stand a decent chance of moving the country in a better direction. I happen to disagree with various points and the characterization of how the campaigns have been run, but I very much welcome this post. It's good to see a nice long list of positives for Clinton instead of a list of negatives about the other candidate. I've started characterizing myself as both an Obama and a Clinton supporter, because I think both would stand a decent chance of moving the country in a better direction.

]]> By: elrod http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138913 elrod Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:30:53 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138913 Florida? So she wins in states where nobody campaigns?<br><br>Sorry, but number 9 is just wrong. She had one major executive responsibility while in the White House: health care. And she botched it with her secrecy and arrogance. Who's to say she's learned any lessons?<br><br>But maybe I should have let this entry sit. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Florida? So she wins in states where nobody campaigns?

Sorry, but number 9 is just wrong. She had one major executive responsibility while in the White House: health care. And she botched it with her secrecy and arrogance. Who's to say she's learned any lessons?

But maybe I should have let this entry sit. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

]]> By: Davebo http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138911 Davebo Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:25:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138911 I have to take issue with reason number 1 along with MaryL..<br><br>Calling for a temporary cut in the gas tax, to be paid for via a windfall profits tax on oil companies doesn't strike me as being economically savy. <br><br>I do agree with you regarding the health care plans. But I have serious doubts whether either of them could get theirs passed into law. I have to take issue with reason number 1 along with MaryL..

Calling for a temporary cut in the gas tax, to be paid for via a windfall profits tax on oil companies doesn't strike me as being economically savy.

I do agree with you regarding the health care plans. But I have serious doubts whether either of them could get theirs passed into law.

]]> By: pabel http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138910 pabel Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:11:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138910 TMV needed this. There are so many Obama fans here, including yours truly, it's refreshing to see a pro-HRC post. Thanks Damozel. TMV needed this. There are so many Obama fans here, including yours truly, it's refreshing to see a pro-HRC post. Thanks Damozel.

]]> By: MaryL http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138908 MaryL Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:05:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138908 If she has such a great grasp of economic concepts, why is she playing "Me, too!" games with McCain's suggestion of a ridiculous gas tax "holiday" this summer? Not that either of them has the power to implement the plan, but supporting it shows either amazing ignorance of economic principles or a shameless willingness to pander. If she has such a great grasp of economic concepts, why is she playing “Me, too!” games with McCain's suggestion of a ridiculous gas tax “holiday” this summer? Not that either of them has the power to implement the plan, but supporting it shows either amazing ignorance of economic principles or a shameless willingness to pander.

]]> By: Jillmz http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138907 Jillmz Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:59:57 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138907 You go Damozel. She's still not the one I wanted but there ARE enough reasons to vote for her (just as there are enough to vote for Obama too). Thanks for writing them up. You go Damozel. She's still not the one I wanted but there ARE enough reasons to vote for her (just as there are enough to vote for Obama too). Thanks for writing them up.

]]> By: shaun http://themoderatevoice.com/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/comment-page-1/#comment-138906 shaun Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:47:17 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/#comment-138906 Great post. Great post.

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