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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EEllis said: &quot;his scripted response says he&#039;s a good guy who understands our pain! So? His original statement clearly said otherwise &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clearly said?  I don/t think so.&lt;br&gt;Even  before his respone took place, there was a wide divergence among people as to what he clearly said.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;His original statement was clumsy, to be sure.  A legitimate criticism is that he was not clear enough  about his meaning.  But &#039;clearly&#039; is something that resides only in your personal interpretation, not in his words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EEllis said: &#8220;his scripted response says he&#39;s a good guy who understands our pain! So? His original statement clearly said otherwise &#8220;</p>
<p>Clearly said?  I don/t think so.<br />Even  before his respone took place, there was a wide divergence among people as to what he clearly said.  </p>
<p>His original statement was clumsy, to be sure.  A legitimate criticism is that he was not clear enough  about his meaning.  But &#39;clearly&#39; is something that resides only in your personal interpretation, not in his words.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EEllis said: &quot;his scripted response says he&#039;s a good guy who understands our pain! So? His original statement clearly said otherwise &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clearly said?  I don/t think so.&lt;br&gt;Even  before his respone took place, there was a wide divergence among people as to what he clearly said.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;His original statement was clumsy, to be sure.  A legitimate criticism is that he was not clear enough  about his meaning.  But &#039;clearly&#039; is something that resides only in your personal interpretation, not in his words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EEllis said: &#8220;his scripted response says he&#39;s a good guy who understands our pain! So? His original statement clearly said otherwise &#8220;</p>
<p>Clearly said?  I don/t think so.<br />Even  before his respone took place, there was a wide divergence among people as to what he clearly said.  </p>
<p>His original statement was clumsy, to be sure.  A legitimate criticism is that he was not clear enough  about his meaning.  But &#39;clearly&#39; is something that resides only in your personal interpretation, not in his words.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mikkel you are talking about his response. Wow his scripted response says he&#039;s a good guy who understands our pain! So? His original statement clearly said otherwise so I should think he is more honest after the press has shredded him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikkel you are talking about his response. Wow his scripted response says he&#39;s a good guy who understands our pain! So? His original statement clearly said otherwise so I should think he is more honest after the press has shredded him?</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mikkel you are talking about his response. Wow his scripted response says he&#039;s a good guy who understands our pain! So? His original statement clearly said otherwise so I should think he is more honest after the press has shredded him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikkel you are talking about his response. Wow his scripted response says he&#39;s a good guy who understands our pain! So? His original statement clearly said otherwise so I should think he is more honest after the press has shredded him?</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve talked about this before on here and I only bring it up because I think it&#039;s what is driving the spin that McCain and HIllary are putting on this Obama flap.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Americans want to vote for someone they believe understands them.  Americans don&#039;t want to spend time debating the finer points of the sub-prime bailout or whether the fed should begin to regulate investments banks if the fed bails them out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So politicians win by saying something subjective like, &quot;Obama is an elite and he is out of touch with your concerns, vote for me because I know you&#039;re having tough times and I can help you the most.&quot;  It&#039;s all about connecting with the voter.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s why Obama must push back and show voters that both McCain and Hillary are out of touch and that he understands their concerns, that he hasn&#039;t spent the last 16 years with Secret Service protection and he doesn&#039;t have 8 houses.  It&#039;s fine for Obama to regret his badly phrased statement.  But that won&#039;t win him any votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#39;ve talked about this before on here and I only bring it up because I think it&#39;s what is driving the spin that McCain and HIllary are putting on this Obama flap.</p>
<p>Americans want to vote for someone they believe understands them.  Americans don&#39;t want to spend time debating the finer points of the sub-prime bailout or whether the fed should begin to regulate investments banks if the fed bails them out.</p>
<p>So politicians win by saying something subjective like, &#8220;Obama is an elite and he is out of touch with your concerns, vote for me because I know you&#39;re having tough times and I can help you the most.&#8221;  It&#39;s all about connecting with the voter.  </p>
<p>That&#39;s why Obama must push back and show voters that both McCain and Hillary are out of touch and that he understands their concerns, that he hasn&#39;t spent the last 16 years with Secret Service protection and he doesn&#39;t have 8 houses.  It&#39;s fine for Obama to regret his badly phrased statement.  But that won&#39;t win him any votes.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve talked about this before on here and I only bring it up because I think it&#039;s what is driving the spin that McCain and HIllary are putting on this Obama flap.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Americans want to vote for someone they believe understands them.  Americans don&#039;t want to spend time debating the finer points of the sub-prime bailout or whether the fed should begin to regulate investments banks if the fed bails them out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So politicians win by saying something subjective like, &quot;Obama is an elite and he is out of touch with your concerns, vote for me because I know you&#039;re having tough times and I can help you the most.&quot;  It&#039;s all about connecting with the voter.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s why Obama must push back and show voters that both McCain and Hillary are out of touch and that he understands their concerns, that he hasn&#039;t spent the last 16 years with Secret Service protection and he doesn&#039;t have 8 houses.  It&#039;s fine for Obama to regret his badly phrased statement.  But that won&#039;t win him any votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#39;ve talked about this before on here and I only bring it up because I think it&#39;s what is driving the spin that McCain and HIllary are putting on this Obama flap.</p>
<p>Americans want to vote for someone they believe understands them.  Americans don&#39;t want to spend time debating the finer points of the sub-prime bailout or whether the fed should begin to regulate investments banks if the fed bails them out.</p>
<p>So politicians win by saying something subjective like, &#8220;Obama is an elite and he is out of touch with your concerns, vote for me because I know you&#39;re having tough times and I can help you the most.&#8221;  It&#39;s all about connecting with the voter.  </p>
<p>That&#39;s why Obama must push back and show voters that both McCain and Hillary are out of touch and that he understands their concerns, that he hasn&#39;t spent the last 16 years with Secret Service protection and he doesn&#39;t have 8 houses.  It&#39;s fine for Obama to regret his badly phrased statement.  But that won&#39;t win him any votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Evista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Clinton left office with a 57% favorable rating he had paid down the national debt and left $559 BILLION dollar SURPLUS.&lt;br&gt;So why is everyone criticizing the Clintons, what are people afraid of Hard Workers who will work for the people give us peace and wonderful economy.&lt;br&gt;Are all these bloggers so young they have no memory of how great it was.&lt;br&gt;Our Country was respected all over the world, the Clintons were revered when they went to Ireland to help with the Peace talks.&lt;br&gt;Stop believing all the hype and open your eyes. &lt;br&gt;When Bill Clinton retired he opened his office in HARLEM among the black people who greeted him and hugged him because he had been a color blind President and he was respected. &lt;br&gt;Suddenly the media wants Obam, so to have him win they have to damn the Clintons because he has NO merit.&lt;br&gt;He can never be President don&#039;t waste your vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Clinton left office with a 57% favorable rating he had paid down the national debt and left $559 BILLION dollar SURPLUS.<br />So why is everyone criticizing the Clintons, what are people afraid of Hard Workers who will work for the people give us peace and wonderful economy.<br />Are all these bloggers so young they have no memory of how great it was.<br />Our Country was respected all over the world, the Clintons were revered when they went to Ireland to help with the Peace talks.<br />Stop believing all the hype and open your eyes. <br />When Bill Clinton retired he opened his office in HARLEM among the black people who greeted him and hugged him because he had been a color blind President and he was respected. <br />Suddenly the media wants Obam, so to have him win they have to damn the Clintons because he has NO merit.<br />He can never be President don&#39;t waste your vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Evista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Clinton left office with a 57% favorable rating he had paid down the national debt and left $559 BILLION dollar SURPLUS.&lt;br&gt;So why is everyone criticizing the Clintons, what are people afraid of Hard Workers who will work for the people give us peace and wonderful economy.&lt;br&gt;Are all these bloggers so young they have no memory of how great it was.&lt;br&gt;Our Country was respected all over the world, the Clintons were revered when they went to Ireland to help with the Peace talks.&lt;br&gt;Stop believing all the hype and open your eyes. &lt;br&gt;When Bill Clinton retired he opened his office in HARLEM among the black people who greeted him and hugged him because he had been a color blind President and he was respected. &lt;br&gt;Suddenly the media wants Obam, so to have him win they have to damn the Clintons because he has NO merit.&lt;br&gt;He can never be President don&#039;t waste your vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Clinton left office with a 57% favorable rating he had paid down the national debt and left $559 BILLION dollar SURPLUS.<br />So why is everyone criticizing the Clintons, what are people afraid of Hard Workers who will work for the people give us peace and wonderful economy.<br />Are all these bloggers so young they have no memory of how great it was.<br />Our Country was respected all over the world, the Clintons were revered when they went to Ireland to help with the Peace talks.<br />Stop believing all the hype and open your eyes. <br />When Bill Clinton retired he opened his office in HARLEM among the black people who greeted him and hugged him because he had been a color blind President and he was respected. <br />Suddenly the media wants Obam, so to have him win they have to damn the Clintons because he has NO merit.<br />He can never be President don&#39;t waste your vote.</p>
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		<title>By: denisedh</title>
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		<dc:creator>denisedh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some good reasons why people get more concerned about the second amendment when the economy is bad.  Hunting can provide meat at a relatively low cost, if you have the time, money, and place to hunt.  If your tax base has dried up, your local sheriff or police may to understaffed to protect from crime and people steal more when times are bad.  And as for turning to faith--churches help people who need it whenever they can.  They might run food banks, provide funding for food assistance, distribute clothes, children&#039;s items, help with home repairs, provide child care, help pay for health care.  Churches have a harder time bringing economic development to an area and I would guess Obama said that people have lost hope that their politicians can deliver on promises to do that because they have failed in so many places for so many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some good reasons why people get more concerned about the second amendment when the economy is bad.  Hunting can provide meat at a relatively low cost, if you have the time, money, and place to hunt.  If your tax base has dried up, your local sheriff or police may to understaffed to protect from crime and people steal more when times are bad.  And as for turning to faith&#8211;churches help people who need it whenever they can.  They might run food banks, provide funding for food assistance, distribute clothes, children&#39;s items, help with home repairs, provide child care, help pay for health care.  Churches have a harder time bringing economic development to an area and I would guess Obama said that people have lost hope that their politicians can deliver on promises to do that because they have failed in so many places for so many years.</p>
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		<title>By: denisedh</title>
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		<dc:creator>denisedh</dc:creator>
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		<description>There are some good reasons why people get more concerned about the second amendment when the economy is bad.  Hunting can provide meat at a relatively low cost, if you have the time, money, and place to hunt.  If your tax base has dried up, your local sheriff or police may to understaffed to protect from crime and people steal more when times are bad.  And as for turning to faith--churches help people who need it whenever they can.  They might run food banks, provide funding for food assistance, distribute clothes, children&#039;s items, help with home repairs, provide child care, help pay for health care.  Churches have a harder time bringing economic development to an area and I would guess Obama said that people have lost hope that their politicians can deliver on promises to do that because they have failed in so many places for so many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some good reasons why people get more concerned about the second amendment when the economy is bad.  Hunting can provide meat at a relatively low cost, if you have the time, money, and place to hunt.  If your tax base has dried up, your local sheriff or police may to understaffed to protect from crime and people steal more when times are bad.  And as for turning to faith&#8211;churches help people who need it whenever they can.  They might run food banks, provide funding for food assistance, distribute clothes, children&#39;s items, help with home repairs, provide child care, help pay for health care.  Churches have a harder time bringing economic development to an area and I would guess Obama said that people have lost hope that their politicians can deliver on promises to do that because they have failed in so many places for so many years.</p>
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		<title>By: tjproudamerican</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear Joe, and your readers&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Hillary Camp&#039;s reaction to this flap is EXACTLY why I turned against The Clinton&#039;s in January of 2008. I wish my voting records were public, because I thought at the time that I am not the only person who voted for each of them twice, defended them over and over again, and suddenly thought, &quot;Enough!&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama did not express contempt for small town America, or anything else. He said people whose jobs have vanished forever, whose life choice went from making 20 dollars an hour to making 7 dollars an hour are frustrated and angry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ironically, Obama CANNOT help those people either. We need new models and new solutions. David Brooks is correct about the opportunity awaiting educated and educatable people in the new economy, but many people do not have the ability to be engineers or Registered Nurses, or Analysts. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They have desire to work, gumption, drive, but many jobs in the service sector top out at 10 dollars an hour and that is where some 30 to 40 % of jobs are.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We need a new model. Hillary and the bloggers like Talk Left who occupy her bunker see Obama&#039;s truth as a demagogic Godsend to her campaign, and it is both demagogic and God-sent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But there is Hillary, now the great hunter, the woman whose family income was 110 million in the past 6 years, the former Valedictorian of Wellesley condemning Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like her namesake, Hillary takes the low road &quot;Because it was there.&quot; Except Sir Edmund wasn&#039;t whom she was named after, climbed Mount Everest: Hillary climbs into the dumpster.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If anyone reading this is still addicted to The Clinton&#039;s: why? They are liars and destructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear Joe, and your readers</p>
<p>The Hillary Camp&#39;s reaction to this flap is EXACTLY why I turned against The Clinton&#39;s in January of 2008. I wish my voting records were public, because I thought at the time that I am not the only person who voted for each of them twice, defended them over and over again, and suddenly thought, &#8220;Enough!&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama did not express contempt for small town America, or anything else. He said people whose jobs have vanished forever, whose life choice went from making 20 dollars an hour to making 7 dollars an hour are frustrated and angry.</p>
<p>Ironically, Obama CANNOT help those people either. We need new models and new solutions. David Brooks is correct about the opportunity awaiting educated and educatable people in the new economy, but many people do not have the ability to be engineers or Registered Nurses, or Analysts. </p>
<p>They have desire to work, gumption, drive, but many jobs in the service sector top out at 10 dollars an hour and that is where some 30 to 40 % of jobs are.</p>
<p>We need a new model. Hillary and the bloggers like Talk Left who occupy her bunker see Obama&#39;s truth as a demagogic Godsend to her campaign, and it is both demagogic and God-sent.</p>
<p>But there is Hillary, now the great hunter, the woman whose family income was 110 million in the past 6 years, the former Valedictorian of Wellesley condemning Obama.</p>
<p>Like her namesake, Hillary takes the low road &#8220;Because it was there.&#8221; Except Sir Edmund wasn&#39;t whom she was named after, climbed Mount Everest: Hillary climbs into the dumpster.</p>
<p>If anyone reading this is still addicted to The Clinton&#39;s: why? They are liars and destructive.</p>
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		<title>By: tjproudamerican</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear Joe, and your readers&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Hillary Camp&#039;s reaction to this flap is EXACTLY why I turned against The Clinton&#039;s in January of 2008. I wish my voting records were public, because I thought at the time that I am not the only person who voted for each of them twice, defended them over and over again, and suddenly thought, &quot;Enough!&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama did not express contempt for small town America, or anything else. He said people whose jobs have vanished forever, whose life choice went from making 20 dollars an hour to making 7 dollars an hour are frustrated and angry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ironically, Obama CANNOT help those people either. We need new models and new solutions. David Brooks is correct about the opportunity awaiting educated and educatable people in the new economy, but many people do not have the ability to be engineers or Registered Nurses, or Analysts. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They have desire to work, gumption, drive, but many jobs in the service sector top out at 10 dollars an hour and that is where some 30 to 40 % of jobs are.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We need a new model. Hillary and the bloggers like Talk Left who occupy her bunker see Obama&#039;s truth as a demagogic Godsend to her campaign, and it is both demagogic and God-sent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But there is Hillary, now the great hunter, the woman whose family income was 110 million in the past 6 years, the former Valedictorian of Wellesley condemning Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like her namesake, Hillary takes the low road &quot;Because it was there.&quot; Except Sir Edmund wasn&#039;t whom she was named after, climbed Mount Everest: Hillary climbs into the dumpster.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If anyone reading this is still addicted to The Clinton&#039;s: why? They are liars and destructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear Joe, and your readers</p>
<p>The Hillary Camp&#39;s reaction to this flap is EXACTLY why I turned against The Clinton&#39;s in January of 2008. I wish my voting records were public, because I thought at the time that I am not the only person who voted for each of them twice, defended them over and over again, and suddenly thought, &#8220;Enough!&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama did not express contempt for small town America, or anything else. He said people whose jobs have vanished forever, whose life choice went from making 20 dollars an hour to making 7 dollars an hour are frustrated and angry.</p>
<p>Ironically, Obama CANNOT help those people either. We need new models and new solutions. David Brooks is correct about the opportunity awaiting educated and educatable people in the new economy, but many people do not have the ability to be engineers or Registered Nurses, or Analysts. </p>
<p>They have desire to work, gumption, drive, but many jobs in the service sector top out at 10 dollars an hour and that is where some 30 to 40 % of jobs are.</p>
<p>We need a new model. Hillary and the bloggers like Talk Left who occupy her bunker see Obama&#39;s truth as a demagogic Godsend to her campaign, and it is both demagogic and God-sent.</p>
<p>But there is Hillary, now the great hunter, the woman whose family income was 110 million in the past 6 years, the former Valedictorian of Wellesley condemning Obama.</p>
<p>Like her namesake, Hillary takes the low road &#8220;Because it was there.&#8221; Except Sir Edmund wasn&#39;t whom she was named after, climbed Mount Everest: Hillary climbs into the dumpster.</p>
<p>If anyone reading this is still addicted to The Clinton&#39;s: why? They are liars and destructive.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<description>SD - in your examples you start with examples of things Obama supports, and then ratchet it up with distortions to make him out as an elitist who views &quot;middle class and blue collar whites (along with virtually all minorities) are too stupid&quot;.  The fact that you disagree with Obama&#039;s support for mortgage reform and magnet schools is a reasonable argument to make, but when you leap to the statement that Obama views all minorities as stupid you are making distortions.  He has repeatedly denounced the &quot;everyone is a victim&quot; mindset that you accuse him of, and instead has made it clear that his vision is of a country where IF YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR SOMETHING then there should be opportunity available to you.  He doesn&#039;t propose handouts, but says that schools in the ghettos need to offer a way out for those willing to work.  He says that parents need to take responsibility for their kids, but that we need to work towards creating conditions where single moms don&#039;t have to work two jobs to support a family.  You may disagree with these positions and that&#039;s fine, but it is NOT OK to misconstrue these positions and state &quot;his everyone is a victim goes along way to justifying his nanny state-ism.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD &#8211; in your examples you start with examples of things Obama supports, and then ratchet it up with distortions to make him out as an elitist who views &#8220;middle class and blue collar whites (along with virtually all minorities) are too stupid&#8221;.  The fact that you disagree with Obama&#39;s support for mortgage reform and magnet schools is a reasonable argument to make, but when you leap to the statement that Obama views all minorities as stupid you are making distortions.  He has repeatedly denounced the &#8220;everyone is a victim&#8221; mindset that you accuse him of, and instead has made it clear that his vision is of a country where IF YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR SOMETHING then there should be opportunity available to you.  He doesn&#39;t propose handouts, but says that schools in the ghettos need to offer a way out for those willing to work.  He says that parents need to take responsibility for their kids, but that we need to work towards creating conditions where single moms don&#39;t have to work two jobs to support a family.  You may disagree with these positions and that&#39;s fine, but it is NOT OK to misconstrue these positions and state &#8220;his everyone is a victim goes along way to justifying his nanny state-ism.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
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		<description>SD - in your examples you start with examples of things Obama supports, and then ratchet it up with distortions to make him out as an elitist who views &quot;middle class and blue collar whites (along with virtually all minorities) are too stupid&quot;.  The fact that you disagree with Obama&#039;s support for mortgage reform and magnet schools is a reasonable argument to make, but when you leap to the statement that Obama views all minorities as stupid you are making distortions.  He has repeatedly denounced the &quot;everyone is a victim&quot; mindset that you accuse him of, and instead has made it clear that his vision is of a country where IF YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR SOMETHING then there should be opportunity available to you.  He doesn&#039;t propose handouts, but says that schools in the ghettos need to offer a way out for those willing to work.  He says that parents need to take responsibility for their kids, but that we need to work towards creating conditions where single moms don&#039;t have to work two jobs to support a family.  You may disagree with these positions and that&#039;s fine, but it is NOT OK to misconstrue these positions and state &quot;his everyone is a victim goes along way to justifying his nanny state-ism.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD &#8211; in your examples you start with examples of things Obama supports, and then ratchet it up with distortions to make him out as an elitist who views &#8220;middle class and blue collar whites (along with virtually all minorities) are too stupid&#8221;.  The fact that you disagree with Obama&#39;s support for mortgage reform and magnet schools is a reasonable argument to make, but when you leap to the statement that Obama views all minorities as stupid you are making distortions.  He has repeatedly denounced the &#8220;everyone is a victim&#8221; mindset that you accuse him of, and instead has made it clear that his vision is of a country where IF YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR SOMETHING then there should be opportunity available to you.  He doesn&#39;t propose handouts, but says that schools in the ghettos need to offer a way out for those willing to work.  He says that parents need to take responsibility for their kids, but that we need to work towards creating conditions where single moms don&#39;t have to work two jobs to support a family.  You may disagree with these positions and that&#39;s fine, but it is NOT OK to misconstrue these positions and state &#8220;his everyone is a victim goes along way to justifying his nanny state-ism.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>superdestroyer,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He only wants to do that until the mind control drugs he&#039;s going to put in our food kicks in. Then that stuff can be repealed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>superdestroyer,</p>
<p>He only wants to do that until the mind control drugs he&#39;s going to put in our food kicks in. Then that stuff can be repealed.</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
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		<description>superdestroyer,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He only wants to do that until the mind control drugs he&#039;s going to put in our food kicks in. Then that stuff can be repealed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>superdestroyer,</p>
<p>He only wants to do that until the mind control drugs he&#39;s going to put in our food kicks in. Then that stuff can be repealed.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ryan, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator Obama supported the Louisville school systems program to assign students based upon race for social engineering purposes.  That supports what I wrote.  Senator Obama supports racial set asides for government jobs, government contracts, college admissions, and magnet public schools.  That supports what I wrote.  Senator Obama wants the government to have control over mortgages, retirement savings plans, and even what kind of care I can drive. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Senator Obama&#039;s world view, middle class and blue collar whites (along with virtually all minorities) are too stupid to sign a mortage, save for their retirement, decide what to study in college, or even how to commute the work.  He is consistent in proposing government programs that give the government decision making authority over others.   His everyone is a victim goes along way to justifying his nanny state-ism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ryan, </p>
<p>Senator Obama supported the Louisville school systems program to assign students based upon race for social engineering purposes.  That supports what I wrote.  Senator Obama supports racial set asides for government jobs, government contracts, college admissions, and magnet public schools.  That supports what I wrote.  Senator Obama wants the government to have control over mortgages, retirement savings plans, and even what kind of care I can drive. </p>
<p>In Senator Obama&#39;s world view, middle class and blue collar whites (along with virtually all minorities) are too stupid to sign a mortage, save for their retirement, decide what to study in college, or even how to commute the work.  He is consistent in proposing government programs that give the government decision making authority over others.   His everyone is a victim goes along way to justifying his nanny state-ism.</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EEllis it was very obvious from his &quot;explanatory&quot; speech that he didn&#039;t mean that people cling to guns or religion or any &lt;i&gt;personal&lt;/i&gt; value system because of bitterness, but that those intractable fringe issues have dominated &lt;i&gt;politics&lt;/i&gt; because of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have thought this for many years. Politics has basically boiled down to a boilerplate of issues that the country will most likely never resolve, and all someone has to do is check which issues they &quot;support&quot; and promise lobbyists to do a bunch of deals and now they are a successful politician! You are liberal if you check the boxes on the left, conservative if on the right and centrist if you just randomly choose.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All analysis of the efficacy of policy and ideas about how to move forward is completely missing from the debate when it comes to: a) focusing on things that are far more relevant to every day life and b) synthesizing new ideas about how to attempt to reconcile the sides on the fringes issues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The recorded remarks he made completely mangled the point. But if you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M&amp;eurl=&quot;&gt;watch this&lt;/a&gt; you&#039;ll see that he respects and understands people&#039;s personal culture. What he was trying to say (and I fully agree) is that the domination of politics by those issues is poisonous and while he focused on the traditional &quot;conservative&quot; stuff so far, I think he is going to swing it back and hit the &quot;liberal&quot; stuff just as hard too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EEllis it was very obvious from his &#8220;explanatory&#8221; speech that he didn&#39;t mean that people cling to guns or religion or any <i>personal</i> value system because of bitterness, but that those intractable fringe issues have dominated <i>politics</i> because of it.</p>
<p>I have thought this for many years. Politics has basically boiled down to a boilerplate of issues that the country will most likely never resolve, and all someone has to do is check which issues they &#8220;support&#8221; and promise lobbyists to do a bunch of deals and now they are a successful politician! You are liberal if you check the boxes on the left, conservative if on the right and centrist if you just randomly choose.</p>
<p>All analysis of the efficacy of policy and ideas about how to move forward is completely missing from the debate when it comes to: a) focusing on things that are far more relevant to every day life and b) synthesizing new ideas about how to attempt to reconcile the sides on the fringes issues.</p>
<p>The recorded remarks he made completely mangled the point. But if you <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M&#038;eurl=">watch this</a> you&#39;ll see that he respects and understands people&#39;s personal culture. What he was trying to say (and I fully agree) is that the domination of politics by those issues is poisonous and while he focused on the traditional &#8220;conservative&#8221; stuff so far, I think he is going to swing it back and hit the &#8220;liberal&#8221; stuff just as hard too.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That in a room full of billionaires he message is that blue collar middle american whites are stupid, ignorant and need us (read the Ivy leaguers and the rich) to make decisions for them.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have to willfully ignore every public statement Obama has made, his two books, his record as a legislator, his time spent as a community organizer, AND read his remarks out of context  to make a statement such as this one.  If you do not support Obama that&#039;s fine, but make your argument against him honestly rather than resorting to distortions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That in a room full of billionaires he message is that blue collar middle american whites are stupid, ignorant and need us (read the Ivy leaguers and the rich) to make decisions for them.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have to willfully ignore every public statement Obama has made, his two books, his record as a legislator, his time spent as a community organizer, AND read his remarks out of context  to make a statement such as this one.  If you do not support Obama that&#39;s fine, but make your argument against him honestly rather than resorting to distortions.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Obama&#039;s statement in a room full of billionaires demonstrates that when he is saying something off script that he is just not that sharp.  That in a room full of billionaires he message is that blue collar middle american whites are stupid, ignorant and need us (read the Ivy leaguers and the rich) to make decisions for them. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course I guess he would not be talking about CERLCA, NESHAPS, NPDES, local tax rates, workman&#039;s compensation, tort liability, and the failure of the public schools as reasons that small towns cannot compete in the world economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Obama&#39;s statement in a room full of billionaires demonstrates that when he is saying something off script that he is just not that sharp.  That in a room full of billionaires he message is that blue collar middle american whites are stupid, ignorant and need us (read the Ivy leaguers and the rich) to make decisions for them. </p>
<p>Of course I guess he would not be talking about CERLCA, NESHAPS, NPDES, local tax rates, workman&#39;s compensation, tort liability, and the failure of the public schools as reasons that small towns cannot compete in the world economy.</p>
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