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General Petraeus’ Clear Message: “We Are Stuck In Iraq”

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In an earlier post Shaun Mullen suggests that what General David Petraeus says ultimately reflects the policy of the C-in-C, President George W. Bush. While agreeing with Shaun, I would like to add a few points.

First let’s jog our memory. I had written in an earlier post: “The Iraq mess is not of his making nor can he achieve a miracle on his own. But Petraeus is now familiar with the ground realities. The US troops can withdraw only when there is an international intervention strategy to save Iraq from another bloodbath. And the time begins now!!!”

I realize that in realpolitik any country that would like to give a shoulder to sort this bloody mess may also like to have its pound of flesh. But at the moment it looks unlikely that the Bush administration would seek international intervention in Iraq (maybe in the form of stationing UN forces in Iraq for a period of time once the US troops withdraw).

The other choice, and the US may just discover sooner than later that this is the only alternative, is to leave Iraq to its fate and just get out. But oh dear, I forgot about the oil!!! Stupid of me…to think that it is because of the safety of the Iraqi people that US forces continue to be there, and not for oil!!!

How time flies! Twelve months ago I wrote this post about General Petraeus. It appears to me as if I wrote it only yesterday. “Isn’t this a contradiction – on the one hand I oppose the continued occupation of Iraq by US forces, while on the other I praise this General? There are many reasons. Also, his recent interview with PBS News Hour has cleared any doubts about his professional standing.

“Here is a General, given a thankless task of trying to salvage whatever he can from the debris, explaining the ground reality without bringing into disrepute his Commander-in-Chief.”

Now let’s come to the present…with the General at the Capitol Hill. Even now Petraeus has not minced words…”We haven’t turned any corners, we haven’t seen any lights at the end of the tunnel.” Read between the lines and the message is clear …“WE ARE GLORIOUSLY STUCK IN IRAQ”. More here…

Moureen Dowd writes at NYT: “The guardians of Iraq offer more of the same — a post-Surge Pause or consolidation and evaluation, as the general generically puts it — and no answers about how we can stop our ward from aligning with our enemy.” But why corner the “hands” of the US administration when we know that the “hands” move on the orders of the “head”. Ironically, no one wishes to put into dock the White House, the Pentagon and the State Department. So why blame the “hands”?

While expert/intellectual discussions are welcome, there are two options before General Petraeus. Either to resign or, in keeping with the highest tradition of a man in uniform, obey the orders of the C-in-C sitting the White House. There is little else the General can do other than “stick to the script” agreed to by the High Command.

I concluded my last year’s post by these quotations: “War is too important a matter to be left to the military.” – Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929) French statesman and journalist.

“Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding.” - Albert Einstein

“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” – Albert Einstein

  • Neocon
    While the world might seek peace, its landscape has been forged by war. From the dawn of man until all of us reading this post are in our graves the landscape will continue to be forged by wars and not peace.

    Peace can only be acheived through the result of conflict. Because without conflict there is no need for peace.

    As long as Mankind has a certain harmone raging through their body there will continue to be wars. Just as a there will continue to be sex. We are a social animal who demands a pecking order. No less so then primates, wolves, or any other pack animal you care to point fingers at.

    The problem with society is that we have attempted to tame a wild animal. Mankind. Its not going to happen. The sooner everyone realizes this the sooner we can go back to the days when it was glorious to die in battle. To Clench a fist and to howl at the moon in defiance of those who would take our most cherished possession away.

    Self Respect.

    Until such time as this tamed, Wild Animal that is Western Civilization realizes that we must give our Enemies their self respect back then we will continue to be slave owners and invaders.

    The war that is raging between east and west is not about religion. It is about Self Respect and who will rule the pack.
  • kritt11
    Its about who will blink first. IMO, Bin Laden wins either way.

    If we stay there we spend 12 billion a month and bankrupt our prosperity. It may lead to the end of our empire, as the long war in Afghanistan did with the Soviets in the late 80's. Our military continues to be stretched to the breaking point, hurting our ability to respond elsewhere. Also, a long occupation hurts our image abroad, and serves as a recruiting tool for al queda. Moderate Arabs become enraged and radicalized when they see that we have no intention of pulling out. Our continued presence also intensifies our conflict with Iran, who continues to send in fighters and supplies to fight a proxy war.

    Pulling out is also a bad idea. In doing so, we demonstrate that we do not have the stomach to fight the long hard slog. Osama can use our defeat as propaganda to plan his next attack. Iraqis who believed we were trying to help establish a new democracy will be let down, and our international reputation will suffer. It will become apparent to all who sacrificed over there that their sacrifice was in vain. Billions we have invested will be wasted as Iran moves into the power vacuum left by our withdrawel. The possibilty of a failed state will loom large, and al queda may move in to set up terrorist training camps, using Iraqi oil fields to finance their organization.

    Win/win for Osama- game, set and match. 9/11 was a stroke of brilliance for him as he finally succeeded in trapping us in a war with no end.
  • Good post, good comment Kritt. But Osama just succeeded in getting us into Afghanistan. Bush gets the credit for Iraq. Bush in his arrogance and hubris may have done to the US what Afghanistan did to USSR. Ironic, isn't it? We armed, trained and financed Bin Laden to quagmire the Soviets. Then we fell for the same trap.

    But wait. I look at the profits of the oil companies and Halliburton (stock is up 800% since Bush took office), I have to remember that quagmire is for us grunts. The spoils of war go to the Bush buddies.
  • kritt11
    Well, I agree with you there, GreenDreams. I do think that oil had a lot to do with the decision to invade Iraq, and Bush /Cheney will go down in history as corporate shills, who looked out for their big donors at the expense of the ordinary American.

    It sounds cynical but 9/11 enabled them to expand executive powers and cloak their actions in secrecy under the guise of national security. We'll never know just how much of what they have done was done for the good of the nation Vs the good of GOP "Rangers".
  • runasim
    The oil may well turn out to be the profit we can't afford.
    If the peace-loving and democratic Iraq we are promissed really does emerge, I can't see it remaining docile and peaceful for long as US and other corporations haul offf their wealth. What is fair and good will have less to do with it, IMO, than the gut level perception in a traumatized country. Perceptions drive both votes and action.

    I can't help thinking what all the money spent on Iraq could have achieved in terms of making energy independence more achievable.

    The threat of BinLaden winning is not dependent on our present role in Iraq.
    The fight is moving to Afghanistan and Pakistan, and we are in a weakened postion to deal with it. It's also likely that the lessons learned in Iraq re alQaeda won't be transferred to other regions of confrontation. We only understand big guns and big bombs, it seems. Counter-insurgency is something that should be practiced even before the first bulltes fly, and we just don't get it. .
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