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Guest Voice: Why Hillary Clinton Is The Best Choice For America

This Guest Voice column is by Patrick Edaburn , an attorney who is a registered Republican but concerned over the influence of the hard right on his party and the influence of the hard left on the Democratic party. He was assistant editor of the excellent centrist group weblog, Central Sanity, which has been disbanded. In this column, he explains why he now believes Hillary Clinton would be the best choice for America. Guest Voice posts do not necessarily reflect the viewpoint of The Moderate Voice or its writers.

Why Hillary Clinton Is The Best Choice For America

by Patrick Edaburn

Those who know me or have read my previous writings would be surprised to see the header to this article. I have often been critical of both Senator and President Clinton and find her to be somewhat abrasive.

Indeed, it is likely that I will be voting for Senator McCain in November as I think he is the best person in the race (of course as a resident of California my vote is meaningless).

But when you look at the broad picture and take everything into account, I think that it would be best for Senator Clinton to win in November.

My reasoning for this position is simple.

The next four years are not going to be pleasant for whoever takes over the White House. On the domestic scene we have the falling dollar, the mortgage crisis, a slumping economy and a number of other brewing problems.

Internationally we have Iraq, the war on Terror, growing threats fro China, Russia, Iran and North Korea. Other issues like trade and immigration combine the worst of both arenas.

From my point of view, there is little chance that the next President will have much success in solving these problems, largely because they are far too complex to resolve and well beyond the control of any person or any country.

I think this is true largely because I do not think that the problems were created by any one administration or country. It is of course all too common in modern politics for one side to blame the other for the bad things or to try and take credit for the good, and often it works.

Perhaps one day it was fair to do this, but in a modern global economy things are far too complex for this to be true. The falling dollar for example is the result of decades of policies all over the world (also to be the topic of a future posting). While some might argue the point, I think this is even true of the mess in Iraq.

So the next administration will face a lot of grief with the probability of a lot of failures and bad news.

It is for this reason that I do not think it would be good for Senator McCain to win this year. As I have said, I admire him greatly for his service to this country and will probably vote for him in November. But if he were to win, we would have 12 years of GOP control in the White House during a period of bad news.

The result would most likely be a massive Democratic win in 2010 and 2012. I realize that there are many people who would think this a good thing, but I do not. This is not a partisan issue either. I would feel the same way if the situation was reversed. I would not like to see a major GOP sweep either.

History has shown us that when one party gets too much power it is a very bad thing for the country. We can see this in many parts of the country today where one party has been in complete control and the result is corruption and stagnation.

Many people were concerned when Bush and the GOP held the White House and Congress, but even then the numbers in Congress were close enough for the Democrats to provide something of a check.

Imagine how bad things could be with no check at all, such as occurred during periods under FDR or LBJ. The results then were abuses of power than make the Bush period look mild (for those who wonder, I used these two Democratic examples because the GOP has not recently had those kinds of super majorities).

So having determined that the best result would be a Democratic win in 2008, the next step is to decide which of the two options is best.


Barack Obama

One can hardly deny that Senator Obama has been a political wonder. He has emerged from being an obscure state legislator to a major Presidential contender in the space of a few years. On the surface his campaign has seemed quite inspiring and uplifting.

But recently things have started to bubble up from under the surface. In watching Obama during debates or interviews I started to see something darker underneath. I think we all saw a little of it as he has had to deal with the issues regarding his minister.

I am generally not inclined to blame a person for what other people say. We all have people in our lives who say stupid things but are otherwise decent people.

However there is a big difference between someone who you happen to know and a man you call your spiritual mentor. Senator Obama had this man officiate at his wedding, he had him baptize his children. That is a bit more than merely knowing the guy.

Furthermore, these statements were made more than 6 years ago. When idiots like Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson said dumb things, everyone was quick to condemn them. I find it hard to believe that Senator Obama could have gone 6 years without knowing these things were said.

It is equally doubtful to me that Pastor Wright simply had one occasion when he said these outrageous things but has otherwise been rational. Even if Obama did not hear these specific statements he has certainly heard some other outrageous statements

Another issue concern to me is his lack of experience in public office, which has been limited to 8 years in the state legislature and 4 in the US Senate. I have compiled a rather detailed analysis of his experience (the subject of another posting) and found that the only successful President who compares to Obama is Lincoln.

To paraphrase Senator Bentsen, Obama is no Lincoln and even if he were, serving as President in the 1860’s and serving as President today is very different.

The closest modern example is Jimmy Carter, another man who promised change and one who had a similarly naïve foreign policy. We all know how far Carter got.

In short, the experience issue is a problem not simply because of the amount of time, but also because of his lack of executive experience (none) and his lack of experience at the national or international level.

Beyond the experience issue is ideology. To be fair, I am not sure he is one to lie about his positions, but at the same time he hasn’t been very specific about his views. His campaign has been largely sound bites about uniting and bringing people together. When he has been specific on the issues I cannot say I have been pleased

On domestic policy he comes down as hard liberal, advocating things like nationalized health care, major social programs, expansion of federal role in education and so on.

Obviously most of these issues do require solutions, but I am not sure that I support the idea of everything being resolved by the government. As a moderate I look to a combination of government and the private sector in solving problems. In addition, I do not think that we need another 4 or 8 years of hard line ideology in our government.

On national security I am also concerned by Senator Obama. His opposition to the war in Iraq and discussion of a gradual process of withdrawal is a good idea, but he simply wants to pull out right away without any consideration of the long term impact.

His suggestion that he would talk to rogue nations like Iran and North Korea with no expectation that they will adopt more reasonable views on things is not encouraging and seems quite naïve. He hasn’t quite come out and said that if we just talk nice to people they will leave us alone, but I do start to wonder.

In short, while Senator Obama can be very a very inspiring speaker I have doubts as to his ability to be President.

Hillary Clinton

So this brings us, somewhat by default to Hillary Clinton. As anyone who knows me will attest, I am hardly a major fan of the Senator from New York. Indeed, I have had some fairly heated debates with friends who are Clinton fans about her various flaws.

But to be completely fair, she also has several positive marks in her favor. She has been a member of the United States Senate for eight years and during that time has been involved in a number of legislative initiatives. She has worked with members of both parties and has shown a fairly good knowledge of the issues.

I might not always agree with her positions, but I cannot deny her skills. In this way she resembles my own Senator Diane Feinstein. I don’t often agree with California’s senior senator, but she is far more skilled and informed that her junior colleague, just as Clinton is far more skilled than Senator Obama.

She also did have eight years as First Lady. I know there have been a lot of jokes lately about the sniper fire incident and whether or not she was deeply involved in policy, but the fact remains she was in the White House for eight years. From what I’ve read she was in many ways as much of a Vice President as Al Gore.

And that does bring up a point. The Vice President does not formulate policy; they do not make the decisions. Indeed it has been said the only job of the Vice President is to go to funerals and check with the President’s doctor. But that does not mean you do not gain major knowledge and experience in that job.

Like Senator McCain, Senator Clinton has also shown a much more pragmatic viewpoint that Senator Obama. This is a very important thing to have in a President. From a purely cynical point of view it could be said that she will spend her first term being careful not to do anything that would risk her re-election.

But this is a good thing from a moderate point of view, forcing someone to govern to the center. In addition I suspect she will remember what happened when Bill went too far in his first term.

Senator Clinton also has a more realistic national security policy than Senator Obama, recognizing that we can’t just hold hands and sing songs to make things all be alright.

In short, while she is not someone I will always agree with (indeed I expect to frequently disagree with her) I do think she will conduct a responsible and realistic administration.

For all of these reasons I have concluded that the best choice for our nation is to choose Hillary Clinton as the next President (even if I don’t vote for her myself)

  • djshay
    The author chastises Obama for his "hard left" stance on Healthcare and other social agendas while seeming to conveniently ignore Clinton's even more "hard left" Healthcare proposal which involves mandates. This immediately invalidates the authors argument in my opinion. The politics of the Clinton's, McCain's, and Bush's are what has brought this country to a new low, both domestically and internationally. We can't keep electing the same people that caused the problem in the first place.
  • Similary to djshay, I have some problems with the author's basic premises here. But the first and larger one is the idea that somehow John McCain is the best person for the job, but we shouldn't elect him because... it will be too hard and we should spare him the possibility of failure??? Huh??

    And then we are to pick Hillary because Obama is too far left? And her "experience" is greater? Hey, I understand that experience is a key component for many people, but if it's your primary concern then there's no sense discussing anyone but McCain. However, we have had other presidents with thin resumes. Bush 2 and Reagan also come to mind.

    To each their own as to who to vote for, of course, but this analysis has left me scratching my head on a few basic points, I must admit.
  • PaulSilver
    "Imagine how bad things could be with no check at all, such as occurred during periods under FDR or LBJ."

    I am particularly proud of the social progress at these times and believe that another Democratic domination is necessary to correct policies on health care, energy, climate change, immigration, trade and foreign affairs.
  • johnmgrant
    Unfortunately, the impact of the author's statements is significantly reduced because he states that he will not vote for the person he argues is the best choice for America. In other words, he is not putting his money where his mouth is, so why should anyone else be persuaded by his arguments if he himself does not change his vote based upon those arguments?

    My question is this: if the author feels strongly that Clinton is indeed the best choice for America, why is he not following up with his vote?

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    By the way, my name "Jack" was already used as a username in the commenting system, so I had to register as "johnmgrant". Full disclosure, I am Jack Grant, one of the assistant editors of The Moderate Voice and author of Random Fate.
  • johnmgrant
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  • SteveK
    The "I'm a Republican BUT I'd vote for Hillary" meme is nothing more than an attempt by the right to try to influence Democrats to advance Clinton to the general election.

    WHY? BECAUSE if Hillary becomes the Democrat Candidate it will solidify and unify the Republican Party faster and stronger than anything the Republican candidate or the RNC could ever do.

    I'd like to see "Cheney for President" but I know those on the right would see through my fraud. Therefore it seems silly to me to see the right think they can fool ANYONE with this BS. Maybe it comes from seven years of their listening to and believing 'Bush Logic'... sorry guys, not everyone is that gullible.
  • I have to agree with other commenters. How can one take seriously the recommendations of someone who lauds one candidate as "the best choice", but will vote for someone else.

    I'm afraid I truly don't understand that at all.
  • Davebo
    It seems to me what he's saying is..

    I'd like McCain to win, but since he and the rest of us have screwed up everything we've touched for the past 7 years I want Hillary to take the blame


    Not exactly a concern troll approach. But also not exactly owning up to the GOP's responsibility for the mess he describes.
  • Well first off thanks for all the comments. Being on the west coast I am a tad behind in responding.

    My basic argument here is based on the heart versus the head premise. My heart says that while I don't agree with him on everything, Senator McCain is the candidate I am closest to on the issues and he is the one I have the most respect for personally (especially with regard to his military service).

    But my head says that it is not a good idea for any one party to be in control too long and therefore it is better for the country to elect a Democrat. Although I would personally refer someone like Mark Warner, Evan Bayh or Bill Richardson, ,none of those are options.

    Having to pick between HRC and Obama, I find her a better choice.

    As to my vote, since I live in California my vote is not relevant to the outcome so I can vote my heart even as I urge others in swing states to follow my head. If I did live in a swing state I probably would vote for Senator Clinton.

    As far as the idea that the GOP is to blame for all the mess of the past few years I do not think this is entirely true. Both Republicans and Democrats have shaped policy over the past 8 years, but because President Bush has been in office the natural inclination is to blame it all on the GOP, but this is not the actual truth.

    Yes the GOP deserves a lot of blame and I am very unhappy with Bush.

    But both sides should share liability and responsibility.
  • Slamfu
    "However, we have had other presidents with thin resumes. Bush 2 and Reagan also come to mind."

    Both of those men were state governors of large states, the closest job in the world to being the president.

    As to the article I have to agree with other here that perhaps traditional experience is not going to get this country back on track. We have fundamental issues of american principles at stake as well as our safety, and for too long we have let those slide because we view external threats from terrorists as being more important. The ideals that have made this country great have somehow been made to seem as running counter to our safety and long term well being when in fact they are the only things that will ensure it.

    I don't see McCain or Clinton as proper champions of those ideals, and neither seems to be much of a change from the way things have been run for the last several administrations. The powers that be have brought us to this and its time for this country to take a gamble and clean house politically. Clinton more than anyone else represents a status quo being the wife of a former president. Not only will it look to the rest of the world as though we have given up on looking for new leadership, it will be that we have in fact given up looking.
  • ceij
    "But to be completely fair, she also has several positive marks in her favor. She has been a member of the United States Senate for eight years and during that time has been involved in a number of legislative initiatives. She has worked with members of both parties and has shown a fairly good knowledge of the issues."

    Yes, let us examine Clinton's actions in the Senate. Can we all agree that the vote for the war is the most notable, critical, and pertinent action to this campaign? How then, can you count those eight years of experience as a plus over Obama?

    "She also did have eight years as First Lady. I know there have been a lot of jokes lately about the sniper fire incident and whether or not she was deeply involved in policy, but the fact remains she was in the White House for eight years. From what I’ve read she was in many ways as much of a Vice President as Al Gore"

    First, despite the jokes and mischaracterizations of the role of the vp, he encounters situations similar to those of a president very often. Dick Cheney just returned from a trip around the world meeting Israeli and Palestinian leaders in the West Bank, going to Saudi Arabia to try to reduce Iran's influence in Iraq, he was a major driving force for the war....I could go on and on with things that a vp does that a First Lady would never do. She doesn't even have the clearance. She has no influence on policy. She is simpy the President's wife. That's it. Drop the comparison. What was Hillary's greatest, most notable, critical, pertinent achievement of her time as First Lady? The 1993 healthcare debacle.

    "Like Senator McCain, Senator Clinton has also shown a much more pragmatic viewpoint that Senator Obama. This is a very important thing to have in a President. From a purely cynical point of view it could be said that she will spend her first term being careful not to do anything that would risk her re-election."

    Huh? Have you paid any attention to the debates? Clinton is clearly LESS pragmatic on healthcare, and chastises Obama for being gutless on mandates. She has stated that those who don't pay their insurance will have their WAGES GARNISHED. How more left can you get?! Economically, Clinton wants to FREEZE INTEREST RATES FOR FIVE YEARS. She would literally drive our country into an indefinite depression. No one points these things out. Do you really know her policies? Do you know Obama's? What makes you think Obama won't play to the center in order to preserve a chance at a second term? What first term president wouldn't? Oh, that would be the 71-year-old.

    I understand the concern over his inexperience, but I believe Obama would shroud himself with a bipartisan administration full of talented intellectuals.

    Get over the Wright stuff. America has. Stop letting Fox and Hannity tell you what to think. Obama addressed the nation with a speech on race that put the correct context on Wright's misstatements and showed America that Obama does not agree with any anti-American/racist sentiment, but embraces the good of a man who served his country as a Marine, attended the bedside of President LBJ, and brought thousands of souls to Christ. Did you even know those three facts about him?

    As far as talking to Iran, I believe it is becoming ABUNDANTLY clear that Iran HAS to be at the table to make political progress in Iraq. Moqtada Al-Sadr has committed to disbanding his militia under the advisement of Ali Khamenei. Mind you, both of these people are in IRAN, and they hold the key to the temporary peace now. How can we continue to ideologically bang our heads and not talk to the boogeymen in the axis of evil? What are they gonna do? Come blow us up because we met with them to figure out how to create peace in Iraq? Even if so, they already have an influence. They're KILLING our soldiers! The danger they pose only strengthens the need to talk to them!

    I understand your sentiment regarding the balance of power. You picked the wrong Democrat, however, and it's clear. Hillary failed at healthcare in 93, and is coming back with the same leftist universal health care mandate stuff she did then. She doesn't understand economics. She wants to tax corporations, destroying the economy even more. Her administration will be run like her campaign, based on loyalty, instead of intellect. The insiders, those who know Hillary, and agree with her-similar to the current administration.

    Obama offers something different, and America sees it. Why are you so certain he is no Lincoln? Obama is only a few years younger than Lincoln was and has 2 more years of experience in the Congress than Lincoln had. Most importantly, Obama possesses the intellect that Lincoln did. Lincoln became president during one of America's worst times in its history. He retained the integrity of the Union and abolished slavery. After witnessing the way Hillary's campaign has gone (penn, ferrarro,sc-jesse jackson, as far as i know, bosnia, pregnant girl, indebtedness, lending 5m, shame on you!, highest negatives) and witnessing the way obama's campaign has gone (record grassroots fundraising, record voter turnout, 11 straight states, loss in ohio and texas-not really-texas, no change in delegate difference, wright flap, speech, recovery from wright flap, closing 20point gap in penn to tie, winning nationally, highest positives)
    How could you decide Hillary's ready from day one to take on this tough presidency? I have more confidence that Obama can tackle the major problems the next president will face because of how they've run their respective campaigns.
  • homerj
    My first vote for President was Ronald Reagan in 1980 and I voted Republican in every election until 2004. I couldn't understand how anyone could vote for George Bush a second time. I firmly believe that 50 years from now we will still be paying for the disaster that was the Bush presidency. Bush has managed to t turn a substantial federal surplus into the largest deficit of all time. He has involved us in a war that has cost us over 600 Billion dollars with no end in sight. He has managed to alienate most of our allies over the Iraq war. The economy is not officially in a recession but that is only because all of the economic numbers are not in to make it a fact. With that said why would we want to elect another person who will continue the policies that have been such a disaster for the past 8 years?
    The country would have been much better served if McCain had been elected in 2000. The one thing that most of country can agree on is that we are sick of the bickering in Washington D.C.. The Bush administration may not have invented bipartisanship but it has certainly raised it to a new level.I don't agree with all of Obama's positions but he brings one possibility that no other candidate does,the possibility that maybe the country will start to be run by leaders who may not always agree, but who will a least listen to each other and try to work together.
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