The secularist establishment have had considrible time to conduct Turkey into the 21 centuary economicaly, they had the capabilitys to be a fundimental player in the world but the people in charge waisted it all away into there pokets.

I hate it when i see people like you making such comments, they have elivated Turkeys image so much. Gul when he took office within 30 days he had visited 5 nations… how many nations did his prediseser visit?

AKP have raised the national income to $104 billion, previously it was something like $34 billion?

And just becouse its leaders have said some realy stupid things they and Turkey face an uncertain future. You think it worth it? Your not very patriotic if you do.

People are laughing at us for pittys sake…. what is wrong with people, il tell you why people are poor becouse the world is going into a resetion. The people in power will always have money, i seriously cant see parliment being run buy a bunch of poor guys who cant even find food to eat. can you?

Both sides are guilty then, however AKP have gained an un imaginable ground in the past 5 years and dont you stand there and dinie it ok, think of your country for pittys sake.

True, but this is the flip side of the coin.
One side asks for trust that the military will continue to show restraint, even when those in power and conditions change, atnd the Islamists ask for trust that they will continue to be moderate even when conditions change. It's a question of who does one trust, then.

To this moment, the Islamist party and the PM have done nothing extreme.
An action of banning them now could upset a very delicate apple cart
The timing is very dangerous, a powder keg, IMO.

It has been the Turkish military that has prevented Turkiye from being a country like Iran. People have always trusted the military in Turkey, and we will keep on doing that. The reason why western people have not understood Turkish people is that they have always approached or evaluated Turkish people with an orientalist perspective. Never take a pure western, or a pure oriental perspective to Turkey, because it is a country of contrevarsies and multiculturalism. Think about a country, in which more than 90%of the population is Muslim, but in which the traditional and national drink is Turkish Raki (with 45%alcohol!!)…

Turkey is experiencing hard times nowadays… Terrorism has hit U.S once, and you know its following effects…Terrorism has hit Turkey thousands of times since 1980s; more than 35000 Turkish citizens were killed. Meanwhile, the radical islamists have threatened secularism in Turkey by attracting votes of poor people only. The reason for the majority of the people voting for them are as follows;
(1) They distributed free food, coal and clothes in poor districts.
(2) They attracted the votes of feodal landlords (agas) in the east, who use poor villagers…These villagers have to vote for the party which the agha wants.
(3) They had the financial back up of Feytullah Gulen, who is being protected by the U.S now.

Sorry, I am lost in problems. The reason why I believe the AKP party may be a threat is that I've seen the rapid change under their governence in Turkey. The budgets to islamic schools were doubled, almost all the staff in ministry buildings were changed to AKP-origined ones, more cencorship has been observed in T.V, and terrorism started again after some years. The party uses democracy as a tool to theocracy…

Turkish lands have always been attacked throughout the history, but anatolia can never be invaded, due to the existance of a magical brotherhood among races there… No religion, no 1 ethnic origin, or no world power will be in force there, because it is a different land. U.S should forget about Turkish part of his MIDDLE EAST PROJECT .

For one thing Attaturk wanted to create industries, develope them then privatise them and from the proceeds built bigger better industries and continue to do so untill Turkey became a major financial player in the world. But instead after he died these Socialists ran the country and the industries like a joke. The steel industry for one thing was pittyfull, the socialists would set the price for steel lower than the market value and sell them off to there friends and they would inturn sell it at market value thus making them instant millionares inturn robbing the country for there own financial gain.

It got so bad that new highly trained university graduates would be left alone becouse they couldnt afford to pay there salarys as they were paying half the minimum price. And these new highly trained graduates would go abroad and elsewere. All this becouse they wanted to grip onto control of the industries wich made Turkey suffer and them richer.

The AKP started privatising some industrys and made considirable gain and they increased Turkeys exports and imports and to date they have raised turkeys income over 70%. In moneytorie values thats just under $70 billion ($70,000 million) Not to mention considirably improving the image of Turkey around the world and Turkeys first ever nuclear power plant, also they increased Turkeys “Research and development” fund from $34 million to $3.5 billion and introduced new tax credits to attract the scientists who fleed becouse of poor salarys and funds.

i mean you guys make me cring when you start telling people they havent done anything. They have worked so dam hard for the country and elevated it to a place it never saw in the modern world, all this in little over 5 years! now that is some achievement.

I apsolutely urge you to tell us what has the secularists done for the country apart from robbing the country and depriving it the right to financial development all the while hiding behind Attaturks great and patriotic image? Note: they have had well over 50 years.

And do not be mistaken, this closure case “is” doing considirable harm to Turkey and will not serve Turkey at all not even one bit, it will only benifit the secular elite who are using the last form of defence they have left.

I would agree. JebK is ignoring the critical fact that the ONE reason Turkey is not Syria, or Iraq, or Egypt is the secular legacy of Ataturk and the Turkish military.

In contrast to, for example, the Pakistani military…the Turkish military has a reputation for restraint in intervening in the political sphere. It has tended to do so only when it believes the fundamental principles of Turkey are under threat.

Why risk decades of comparative success – to any other Muslim nation of equivalent size – to allow Islamists to push the door open. If Islamists get the headscarf victory…then there will be a new moderate Islamist proposal…and a new moderate Islamist proposal….

Turkey will one day wake up an Islamist autocracy. Give Turkey's secularists some credit. They have been fighting radical Islam longer than anyone.

I understand the fears of the secalirsts, though, They suspect that the cloak of medartion will be dropped once Islamists are in full blown power. That's a genuine risk whenever any religion and governmental powers are mixed. . That the current party leadership is moderate is no guarantee that tomorrow's leadership will be so also.

Nevertheless, It's a bigger rish, IMO, to ban them. Repression is far more likely to induce extremism.