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		<title>By: Katie23</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18733/birds-bees-and-big-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-136453</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a problem with gas being expensive.  Well, I do, but not because I think the oil companies shouldn&#039;t make money.    I don&#039;t even have a problem with the oil companies making what seems to be an obscene profit.    I *do* have a problem with giving them tax breaks while they are making record profits.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If they&#039;re making all those billions per year and having fairly large distributions to shareholders, then THEY should be financing their own exploration activities, not our tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t have a problem with gas being expensive.  Well, I do, but not because I think the oil companies shouldn&#39;t make money.    I don&#39;t even have a problem with the oil companies making what seems to be an obscene profit.    I *do* have a problem with giving them tax breaks while they are making record profits.   </p>
<p>If they&#39;re making all those billions per year and having fairly large distributions to shareholders, then THEY should be financing their own exploration activities, not our tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a minute. Big Oil  can&#039;t engage in developing new technologies and new sources of energy because it doesn&#039;t want to undertake any risk?&lt;br&gt;Where does it say that assuming risk isn&#039;t part of business?  Where does it say that profits have to be guaranteed by government subsidies?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That seems to imply that no matter how inefective a business is, taxpayers have to pay them (subsidies)  to do more of the same.  Then, we can never change course.  Where is the common sense in that?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Windfall taxes is a separate matter, but the corporate welfare system has to stop when it begins to smother instead of help.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do I hear lobbyists at work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute. Big Oil  can&#39;t engage in developing new technologies and new sources of energy because it doesn&#39;t want to undertake any risk?<br />Where does it say that assuming risk isn&#39;t part of business?  Where does it say that profits have to be guaranteed by government subsidies?  </p>
<p>That seems to imply that no matter how inefective a business is, taxpayers have to pay them (subsidies)  to do more of the same.  Then, we can never change course.  Where is the common sense in that?</p>
<p>Windfall taxes is a separate matter, but the corporate welfare system has to stop when it begins to smother instead of help.  </p>
<p>Do I hear lobbyists at work?</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to disagree with Polimom, but alas I must.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why exactly are we still subsidizing oil exploration at prices over $100.00 a barrel?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I had a meeting today with one of the worlds largest drilling contractors.  Day rates are through the roof, rig utilization is at all time highs.   And yet the Federal Government acts as if oil is still at $11.00 a barrel.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ve given them special tax breaks to encourage increased refining capacity.  Didn&#039;t work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ve offered them both tax breaks and royalty forgiveness in every single piece of legislation to open ANWR to production.   Why?  Because they have said they aren&#039;t interested in drilling in ANWR without them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And these examples don&#039;t even address the subsidies provided by the Dept. of Defense, which are astronomical.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 2006 the feds forked over 9 billion of our tax dollars to oil companies in tax breaks and subsidies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to disagree with Polimom, but alas I must.</p>
<p>Why exactly are we still subsidizing oil exploration at prices over $100.00 a barrel?</p>
<p>I had a meeting today with one of the worlds largest drilling contractors.  Day rates are through the roof, rig utilization is at all time highs.   And yet the Federal Government acts as if oil is still at $11.00 a barrel.</p>
<p>We&#39;ve given them special tax breaks to encourage increased refining capacity.  Didn&#39;t work.</p>
<p>We&#39;ve offered them both tax breaks and royalty forgiveness in every single piece of legislation to open ANWR to production.   Why?  Because they have said they aren&#39;t interested in drilling in ANWR without them.</p>
<p>And these examples don&#39;t even address the subsidies provided by the Dept. of Defense, which are astronomical.</p>
<p>In 2006 the feds forked over 9 billion of our tax dollars to oil companies in tax breaks and subsidies.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that windfall profit taxes are a bad idea. However, Exxon Mobil does remain short-sighted if they aren&#039;t using these billions and billions of extra money to develop renewable energies. Exxon states that renewables are not competitive right now, but one of the reasons they are not competitive is that no one has invested in the infrastructure and development of these resourses, as has been done for decades now with petroleum. As you state, polimom, the price of oil is only going to climb over the next 2-3 decades as demand swells. Instead of waiting until then, when the business model is already clear, Exxon needs to meet that day with the best renewable energy sources on the planet so that they knock over their competition. It would be a different matter if Exxon&#039;s business was tight right now, so that there was little money to invest in an uncertain energy future, but Exxon is rolling in cash they can use for this. Investing today&#039;s profits for that long-term future is the best business model they could have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that windfall profit taxes are a bad idea. However, Exxon Mobil does remain short-sighted if they aren&#39;t using these billions and billions of extra money to develop renewable energies. Exxon states that renewables are not competitive right now, but one of the reasons they are not competitive is that no one has invested in the infrastructure and development of these resourses, as has been done for decades now with petroleum. As you state, polimom, the price of oil is only going to climb over the next 2-3 decades as demand swells. Instead of waiting until then, when the business model is already clear, Exxon needs to meet that day with the best renewable energy sources on the planet so that they knock over their competition. It would be a different matter if Exxon&#39;s business was tight right now, so that there was little money to invest in an uncertain energy future, but Exxon is rolling in cash they can use for this. Investing today&#39;s profits for that long-term future is the best business model they could have.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Current gas prices (and everything else related) are still lower than current technology can deliver for renewable sources.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sure, but current gas prices reflect massive government giveaways to petroleum. Shift that to renewables, ones that don&#039;t rely on lots of gas and diesel (as corn ethanol does) and the equation changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Current gas prices (and everything else related) are still lower than current technology can deliver for renewable sources.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, but current gas prices reflect massive government giveaways to petroleum. Shift that to renewables, ones that don&#39;t rely on lots of gas and diesel (as corn ethanol does) and the equation changes.</p>
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		<title>By: University Update - Stanford University - Birds, bees, and Big Oil</title>
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		<dc:creator>University Update - Stanford University - Birds, bees, and Big Oil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Birds, bees, and Big Oil &#183; Buwin Technology</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18733/birds-bees-and-big-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-111568</link>
		<dc:creator>Birds, bees, and Big Oil &#183; Buwin Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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