So were all mad. How is Obama going to solve all these things? What is his plan?

So were all mad. How is Obama going to solve all these things? What is his plan?

There is no perfect candidate. Obama has made the call to We the People throughout his campaign. And insists on keeping us involved after the election. As we should be and must be.

vwcat. Really interesting connection of the dots. I had been thinking that things have gotten bad enough, more would be willing to take a risk. Not surprising, it has been done before. Hopefully we will repeat the past this time.

There is no perfect candidate. Obama has made the call to We the People throughout his campaign. And insists on keeping us involved after the election. As we should be and must be.

vwcat. Really interesting connection of the dots. I had been thinking that things have gotten bad enough, more would be willing to take a risk. Not surprising, it has been done before. Hopefully we will repeat the past this time.

Meanwhile, I have spent 50+ years aware of and following the racial, political, economic, foreign policy and millitary activities of this country. Over the past 4 years I have been reading as many books on our history and current situation as I could make time and energy to do – at the near disintegration of my house, finances and health.

If that sounds at least neurotic, if not downright crazy, it's because I am one of the Americans who has been mad as hell about what America, religion, multinational corporations and the millitary-industrial-congressional-financial-undercover intelligence complex have done to the world. Not just to my life and the lives of my children, to the lives of billions of humans world wide.

Michael notes the tip of the iceberg here without going far into what is below it. Forty years ago, as a young adolescent in the mid 60's, it was apparent to me that in my lifetime, the world would face a time when drastic change would be inevitable for man and nature to survive. That the movement would be fought by the haves and the religious fundamentalists of all the major religions. especially Judaeo-Christian.
The number of Americans who realize we are at a huge crossroad in human history is growing daily. Who realize that our history of tweaking the status quo to make changes won't cut it this time. That no leader has ever, or will ever, make those changes without a mass movement of We the People.

Obama is not merely an excellent speaker, he does not merely invite us to the table; he insists that we begin a dialogue. Our problem stems, as a lot of recent information about how the mind works and how we communicate has revealed, from relying on adversarial forms of communication. A discussion is based on arguing the pros and cons of only two ideas. More may be there, but only because the differences between them are negligible.

Many of us realize that the changes we must make to bring our country,
and the world, into sustainable societies; must be transformational. Or they will fail. The difference between the kind of changes Hillary is going to work for, possibly even achieving, and stay-the-course policies of McCain; will not be sufficient to significantly mitigate the tragedies that the 'perfect storm' of crises that face us will create for all of humanity. The best they will be able to do is try to put out the fires.

We have to face what is causing the fires, and change our stupid contributions to functional repair and rebuilding of our culture and society.

50 years from now, the world will look very different from what it does today.

The question is: for better or worse?

Maybe I've missed it, but you've stated these same arguments numerous times without providing any evidence. The experience argument has been discussed to death – he has more legislative experience than Clinton, more Washington experience than her husband had, and enough real-world experience that many of the Democratic super-delegates are comfortable supporting him, although she obviously has twenty years more experience in politics than he does. I don't know what you mean by “does not belong in the race”. As to “cannot win in November”, he has lower unfavorable ratings than Clinton, and you can pick and choose your polls to show who stacks up better against McCain. The “mass delusion” argument is another I don't understand – the implication seems to be that his supporters don't have the judgment to make a decision about who should be President, which you'll need to need to explain more fully given that millions of people are supporting him.

Again, your past postings have shown that you can make reasoned and insightful arguments, but in the case of the current Democratic race I am absolutely mystified by the fact that you attack Obama in 1-2 sentences every time he is mentioned here without providing any debatable arguments. This site is unique in providing intelligent arguments from people who often disagree with one another, and I would appreciate more insight into the pro-Clinton argument; Jill does a good job of making the case, and I would like to see you doing the same.

If we truly want to break out of our current ways, Obama is the best chance at doing so. Now I'm not saying he's a saint or a saviour, he's not. But he does offer the best chance of bringing in change.

I'm not sure how anyone who attracts dems, independents, repubs and others in larger numbers than Hillary can be accused of tearing the Dem. Party apart. Obama has the lead in popular vote and delegates.

Hillary, on the other hand is losing but chooses to stay in the race, hoping she can win. She might, she's not out yet. But she has a lot further to go than Obama. Because Hillary is staying in the race, the Dems are seen as petty, bickering and fractious. Many voters are turned off by the Dems. right now and the only other alternative is McCain, who is making presidential type trips around the world bolstering his image. Hillary, being in last place, needs to drop out so the Dems can get on with business. I see no reason why the front-runner (Obama) should drop out. Now if he were last, like Hillary, then I would think he should give it up.

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