Comments on: The Forest, The Trees & The Blue Dress http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:17:37 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: DAMOZEL http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149306 DAMOZEL Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:51:30 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149306 It's made me get emotional, and I don't like getting emotional..... It's made me get emotional, and I don't like getting emotional…..

]]> By: DAMOZEL http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149305 DAMOZEL Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:39:48 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149305 Shaun:<br><br>The Irish Prime Minister begs to differ with you, at least re: her role in the Irish peace process.<br><br><a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/united-kingdom/northern-ireland/18504/irish-prime-minister-confirms-hillarys-significant-role-in-peace-process/">http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/unite...</a><br><br>And I personally am ENTIRELY OFFENDED by ABC News' publication of the blue dress story----speaking as a sister woman as well as a Hillary supporter. Shaun:

The Irish Prime Minister begs to differ with you, at least re: her role in the Irish peace process.

http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/unite...

And I personally am ENTIRELY OFFENDED by ABC News' publication of the blue dress story—-speaking as a sister woman as well as a Hillary supporter.

]]> By: GeorgeSorwell http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149304 GeorgeSorwell Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:58:04 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149304 What Justin Gardner said! What Justin Gardner said!

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149303 DLS Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:15:17 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149303 "too many bad melodramas"<br><br>It really happened, as did the response largely to her, not him (the 1994 elections). “too many bad melodramas”

It really happened, as did the response largely to her, not him (the 1994 elections).

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149302 DLS Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:14:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149302 The difference between her and her husband is that her husband, not she, was elected to fill the position. The difference between her and her husband is that her husband, not she, was elected to fill the position.

]]> By: Idiosyncrat http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149301 Idiosyncrat Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:00:52 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149301 DLS, perhaps she was co-president in her mind... DLS, perhaps she was co-president in her mind…

]]> By: AustinRoth http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149300 AustinRoth Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:57:26 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149300 Gee DLS, been watching too many bad melodramas, it seems. Gee DLS, been watching too many bad melodramas, it seems.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149299 DLS Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:51:15 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149299 Clinton's released records were sanitized. She was co-President. As I told someone else yesterday, "I want Penny-Kasich dead in three days" was not said by her husband, but by her. And it was she who led the health care task force, et cetera. Clinton's released records were sanitized. She was co-President. As I told someone else yesterday, “I want Penny-Kasich dead in three days” was not said by her husband, but by her. And it was she who led the health care task force, et cetera.

]]> By: justinpgardner http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149298 justinpgardner Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:44:32 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149298 Whoa, hold on a second there...<br><br>I don't think anybody is denying that the document dump is historic, nor the fact that she was in the White House on that day, but for the FIRST story out of ABC to trumpet the dress, give the day a name (!) and actually show the thing demonstrates not only extremely poor journalistic taste, but also betrays a particularly sensationalist myopia.<br><br>Now, I could actually understand if these records were released while she was a Senator and ABC focused on the dress. But given that Hillary is running for President. the story should have focused on the fact that there are redacted portions of her schedule and, as Dave points out, the fact that she didn't have security clearance. Those are most pertinent to the job she's applying for, not the fact that she was in the White House on that fateful day.<br><br>Sorry Shaun, but I'm sure most of us see both the forest and the trees on this one, but we're simply disgusted that ABC teepee'd the entrance to the forest with blue dresses. Whoa, hold on a second there…

I don't think anybody is denying that the document dump is historic, nor the fact that she was in the White House on that day, but for the FIRST story out of ABC to trumpet the dress, give the day a name (!) and actually show the thing demonstrates not only extremely poor journalistic taste, but also betrays a particularly sensationalist myopia.

Now, I could actually understand if these records were released while she was a Senator and ABC focused on the dress. But given that Hillary is running for President. the story should have focused on the fact that there are redacted portions of her schedule and, as Dave points out, the fact that she didn't have security clearance. Those are most pertinent to the job she's applying for, not the fact that she was in the White House on that fateful day.

Sorry Shaun, but I'm sure most of us see both the forest and the trees on this one, but we're simply disgusted that ABC teepee'd the entrance to the forest with blue dresses.

]]> By: shaun http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149297 shaun Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:27:17 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149297 Mr. Sorwell:<br><br>Answering the question of where Mrs. Clinton was when the blue dress incident occurred is relevant in an historic context just as where Eleanor Roosevelt was when FDR messed around with Lucy Mercer.<br><br>You can't airbrush history to suit your tastes, qualms and proclivities. I took pains to note that it is disingenuous to focus on the Day of the Blue Dress because it misses a larger point: Mrs. Clinton's claims regarding her "experience" as First Lady are bunk, but it is nevertheless relevant. Mr. Sorwell:

Answering the question of where Mrs. Clinton was when the blue dress incident occurred is relevant in an historic context just as where Eleanor Roosevelt was when FDR messed around with Lucy Mercer.

You can't airbrush history to suit your tastes, qualms and proclivities. I took pains to note that it is disingenuous to focus on the Day of the Blue Dress because it misses a larger point: Mrs. Clinton's claims regarding her “experience” as First Lady are bunk, but it is nevertheless relevant.

]]> By: GeorgeSorwell http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149296 GeorgeSorwell Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:55:54 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149296 Decision making is a process. It's not just sitting in the room when the choice of yes or no is finally made. <br><br>And what difference does it make where Mrs Clinton was located when Mr Clinton cheated on her? Seriously, why should this bit of color change anyone's opinion of Hillary Clinton. As a former member of the MSM, Shaun, you ought to be able to explain why it's, as you say, "appropriate". Just because it helps to sell advertising space? Decision making is a process. It's not just sitting in the room when the choice of yes or no is finally made.

And what difference does it make where Mrs Clinton was located when Mr Clinton cheated on her? Seriously, why should this bit of color change anyone's opinion of Hillary Clinton. As a former member of the MSM, Shaun, you ought to be able to explain why it's, as you say, “appropriate”. Just because it helps to sell advertising space?

]]> By: Dave_Schuler http://themoderatevoice.com/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/comment-page-1/#comment-149295 Dave_Schuler Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:11:19 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18494/the-forest-the-trees-the-blue-dress/#comment-149295 What you're saying has been obvious since it was revealed that Hillary Clinton didn't have a security clearance during her husband's presidency. A little resume padding is to be expected, even benign. But Sen. Clinton needs to run on the resume she has not on the one she wishes she had and her supporters need to evaluate her candidacy on the same terms. What you're saying has been obvious since it was revealed that Hillary Clinton didn't have a security clearance during her husband's presidency. A little resume padding is to be expected, even benign. But Sen. Clinton needs to run on the resume she has not on the one she wishes she had and her supporters need to evaluate her candidacy on the same terms.

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