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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, prostitution not only objectifies but exploits women in other ways.  And of course, it&#039;s not victimless when bonds and vows are broken.  Spitzer&#039;s wife and his daughters are obviously victims in this instance.  There are similiar victims (which aren&#039;t related only to buyers and sellers of something, as some might naively believe or academically assert) in the case of drug use and abuse, or gambling, for example.  What about the person&#039;s spouse and children, first and foremost?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They obviously are victims of someone else&#039;s decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, prostitution not only objectifies but exploits women in other ways.  And of course, it&#39;s not victimless when bonds and vows are broken.  Spitzer&#39;s wife and his daughters are obviously victims in this instance.  There are similiar victims (which aren&#39;t related only to buyers and sellers of something, as some might naively believe or academically assert) in the case of drug use and abuse, or gambling, for example.  What about the person&#39;s spouse and children, first and foremost?</p>
<p>They obviously are victims of someone else&#39;s decision.</p>
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		<title>By: nicrivera</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicrivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Prostitution is not, as some insist, a “victimless crime.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have to disagree with you there, Mark.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Someone who willingly engages in some unsafe or unhealthy activity—whether it be doing drugs, having unprotected sex, or eating a diet high in fat and cholesterol—cannot be said to be victim of anyone but themselves.  In such a case, the perpertrator of the &quot;crime&quot; and the victim of the &quot;crime&quot; are one and the same, and punishment falls upon the victim—the very person that supporters of victimless crime laws claim they are trying to help.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Consider this example:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I were to eat nothing but french fries and hamburgers for the rest of my life, I would be doing myself great harm.  But would I be a victim?  Of course not.  The only way in which I could reasonably be considered a victim would be if someone forced me to eat nothing but french fries and hamburgers.  But if I decided to do so of my own free will—that is, consensually—then I cannot be considered a victim.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And that&#039;s what the issue of &quot;victimless crime&quot; really boils down to: &lt;i&gt;consensual&lt;/i&gt; acts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Indeed, there are countless young women who were coerced into becoming prostitutes (or alternatively, upon choosing to become prostitutes, are coerced into remaining prostitutes), but certainly not &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/I&gt; prostitutes were coerced into their position.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Prostitution is the act of engaging in sexual intercourse or sexual acts for money.  There is nothing whatsoever in the definition that suggests that anyone is being coerced.  Indeed, it is the &lt;i&gt;coercion&lt;/i&gt; that creates a victim and not the act of prostitution itself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A man wants sex and is willing to pay it.  A woman wants money and is willing to have sex for it.  The two meet together and agree to give the other what they want.  Tell me where in this scenario is there a &lt;i&gt;victim&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Prostitution is not, as some insist, a “victimless crime.” </p></blockquote>
<p>I have to disagree with you there, Mark.</p>
<p>Someone who willingly engages in some unsafe or unhealthy activity—whether it be doing drugs, having unprotected sex, or eating a diet high in fat and cholesterol—cannot be said to be victim of anyone but themselves.  In such a case, the perpertrator of the &#8220;crime&#8221; and the victim of the &#8220;crime&#8221; are one and the same, and punishment falls upon the victim—the very person that supporters of victimless crime laws claim they are trying to help.</p>
<p>Consider this example:</p>
<p>If I were to eat nothing but french fries and hamburgers for the rest of my life, I would be doing myself great harm.  But would I be a victim?  Of course not.  The only way in which I could reasonably be considered a victim would be if someone forced me to eat nothing but french fries and hamburgers.  But if I decided to do so of my own free will—that is, consensually—then I cannot be considered a victim.</p>
<p>And that&#39;s what the issue of &#8220;victimless crime&#8221; really boils down to: <i>consensual</i> acts.</p>
<p>Indeed, there are countless young women who were coerced into becoming prostitutes (or alternatively, upon choosing to become prostitutes, are coerced into remaining prostitutes), but certainly not <i>all</i> prostitutes were coerced into their position.</p>
<p>Prostitution is the act of engaging in sexual intercourse or sexual acts for money.  There is nothing whatsoever in the definition that suggests that anyone is being coerced.  Indeed, it is the <i>coercion</i> that creates a victim and not the act of prostitution itself.</p>
<p>A man wants sex and is willing to pay it.  A woman wants money and is willing to have sex for it.  The two meet together and agree to give the other what they want.  Tell me where in this scenario is there a <i>victim</i>?</p>
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		<title>By: MJDaniels53</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJDaniels53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sd:&lt;br&gt;Obviously I&#039;m not defending infidelity. But I am arguing that unless infidelity is a demonstrable pattern, a person should not be precluded from public service because of it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;domajot:&lt;br&gt;I personally think that prostitution should remain illegal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, it&#039;s disturbing to me when a public figure ostensibly committed to equality sees no problem with objectifying women.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sd:<br />Obviously I&#39;m not defending infidelity. But I am arguing that unless infidelity is a demonstrable pattern, a person should not be precluded from public service because of it. </p>
<p>domajot:<br />I personally think that prostitution should remain illegal.</p>
<p>However, it&#39;s disturbing to me when a public figure ostensibly committed to equality sees no problem with objectifying women.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,&lt;br&gt;Spitzer is one thing, prostitution another.&lt;br&gt;Spitzer broke texisting law.  Period.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that prostitution objectifies women, but criminalizing prostitution in no way halts objectifying women, nor does it halt the practice, of prostitution.   It&#039;s counterproductive to waste money on measures that  are ineffective and help no one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />Spitzer is one thing, prostitution another.<br />Spitzer broke texisting law.  Period.</p>
<p>I agree that prostitution objectifies women, but criminalizing prostitution in no way halts objectifying women, nor does it halt the practice, of prostitution.   It&#39;s counterproductive to waste money on measures that  are ineffective and help no one.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a politician is lying and deceiving his spouse, what makes anyone think that the same politician will not lie to the citizens? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, Paterson had an affair with a state employee while a state official.  I guess President Clinton ended the idea that quid pro quo sex is a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a politician is lying and deceiving his spouse, what makes anyone think that the same politician will not lie to the citizens? </p>
<p>Also, Paterson had an affair with a state employee while a state official.  I guess President Clinton ended the idea that quid pro quo sex is a bad thing.</p>
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