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		<title>By: tbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes there are many differences...GreenDreams... The most important is that Obama is a liar and Hillary isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes there are many differences&#8230;GreenDreams&#8230; The most important is that Obama is a liar and Hillary isn&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s literally nothing to distinguish this from Obama&#039;s plan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hillary:&lt;br&gt;But the point of the surge was to give the Iraqis the time and space for political reconciliation. Yet today, the Iraqi government has failed to provide basic services for its citizens. They have yet to pass legislation ensuring the equitable distribution of oil revenues, yet even to pass a law setting the date of provincial elections. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama&lt;br&gt;The goal of the surge was to create space for Iraq&#039;s political leaders to reach an agreement to end Iraq&#039;s civil war. At great cost, our troops have helped reduce violence in some areas of Iraq, but even those reductions do not get us below the unsustainable levels of violence of mid-2006. Moreover, Iraq&#039;s political leaders have made no progress in resolving the political differences at the heart of their civil war.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H: The strength of our military is at stake.&lt;br&gt;O: The military is being severely strained&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[L]et’s be clear, withdrawal is not defeat. Defeat is keeping troops in Iraq for 100 years. Defeat is straining our alliances and losing our standing in the world. Defeat is draining our resources and diverting attention from our key interests.&lt;br&gt;[well said, H -ed]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H: demanding that the Pentagon start planning for it now. I’ve introduced legislation ensuring that Congress would be briefed on those plans and that’s also why I’m working to block President Bush’s effort to keep this war going after he leaves office. I’ve introduced legislation banning him from unilaterally negotiating a long-term security commitment to Iraq, including the possibility of permanent bases.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;yeah, right. That&#039;ll show him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H: draw up a clear, viable plan to start bringing our troops home within the first 60 days of my taking office. A plan based on my consultation with the military to remove one to two brigades a month, a plan that reduces the risks of attack as they depart.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H: We’ll empower local leaders and use U.S. and international influence to press the Iraqis to reach political reconciliation,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;O: will engage representatives from all levels of Iraqi society – in and out of government – to seek a new accord on Iraq’s Constitution and governance.. [use] aggressive diplomatic effort to reach a new compact on the stability of Iraq and the Middle East. This effort will include all of Iraq’s neighbors — including Iran and Syria. This compact will aim to secure Iraq’s borders; keep neighboring countries from meddling inside Iraq; isolate al Qaeda; support reconciliation among Iraq’s sectarian groups; and provide financial support for Iraq’s reconstruction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;H:I will call on the United Nations to strengthen its role in promoting this reconciliation.&lt;br&gt;O:The United Nations will play a central role in this convention, which should not adjourn until a new national accord is reached addressing tough questions like federalism and oil revenue-sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s literally nothing to distinguish this from Obama&#39;s plan.</p>
<p>Hillary:<br />But the point of the surge was to give the Iraqis the time and space for political reconciliation. Yet today, the Iraqi government has failed to provide basic services for its citizens. They have yet to pass legislation ensuring the equitable distribution of oil revenues, yet even to pass a law setting the date of provincial elections. </p>
<p>Obama<br />The goal of the surge was to create space for Iraq&#39;s political leaders to reach an agreement to end Iraq&#39;s civil war. At great cost, our troops have helped reduce violence in some areas of Iraq, but even those reductions do not get us below the unsustainable levels of violence of mid-2006. Moreover, Iraq&#39;s political leaders have made no progress in resolving the political differences at the heart of their civil war.</p>
<p>H: The strength of our military is at stake.<br />O: The military is being severely strained</p>
<p>[L]et’s be clear, withdrawal is not defeat. Defeat is keeping troops in Iraq for 100 years. Defeat is straining our alliances and losing our standing in the world. Defeat is draining our resources and diverting attention from our key interests.<br />[well said, H -ed]</p>
<p>H: demanding that the Pentagon start planning for it now. I’ve introduced legislation ensuring that Congress would be briefed on those plans and that’s also why I’m working to block President Bush’s effort to keep this war going after he leaves office. I’ve introduced legislation banning him from unilaterally negotiating a long-term security commitment to Iraq, including the possibility of permanent bases.</p>
<p>yeah, right. That&#39;ll show him.</p>
<p>H: draw up a clear, viable plan to start bringing our troops home within the first 60 days of my taking office. A plan based on my consultation with the military to remove one to two brigades a month, a plan that reduces the risks of attack as they depart.</p>
<p>Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month,</p>
<p>H: We’ll empower local leaders and use U.S. and international influence to press the Iraqis to reach political reconciliation,</p>
<p>O: will engage representatives from all levels of Iraqi society – in and out of government – to seek a new accord on Iraq’s Constitution and governance.. [use] aggressive diplomatic effort to reach a new compact on the stability of Iraq and the Middle East. This effort will include all of Iraq’s neighbors — including Iran and Syria. This compact will aim to secure Iraq’s borders; keep neighboring countries from meddling inside Iraq; isolate al Qaeda; support reconciliation among Iraq’s sectarian groups; and provide financial support for Iraq’s reconstruction.</p>
<p>H:I will call on the United Nations to strengthen its role in promoting this reconciliation.<br />O:The United Nations will play a central role in this convention, which should not adjourn until a new national accord is reached addressing tough questions like federalism and oil revenue-sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Slamfu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slamfu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush&#039;s appointments and gutting of FEMA certainly turned Katrina into a humanitarian crisis instead of another disaster that we cleaned up professionally with a minimum of screw ups.   Folks are still living in trailers there.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like Hillary&#039;s plan, its pretty well thought out.   Moreover its the type of campaigning she should have been doing the whole time.  I&#039;m still voting for Obama though, either one will get us out of there and neither one can stop the bloodshed thats coming with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush&#39;s appointments and gutting of FEMA certainly turned Katrina into a humanitarian crisis instead of another disaster that we cleaned up professionally with a minimum of screw ups.   Folks are still living in trailers there.  </p>
<p>I like Hillary&#39;s plan, its pretty well thought out.   Moreover its the type of campaigning she should have been doing the whole time.  I&#39;m still voting for Obama though, either one will get us out of there and neither one can stop the bloodshed thats coming with it.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She didn&#039;t cause Hurricane Katrina; Bush did, the Usual Suspects still maintain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She didn&#39;t cause Hurricane Katrina; Bush did, the Usual Suspects still maintain.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was an interesting contrast in snippets from the latest speeches by Hillary and Obama.&lt;br&gt;Hillary spoke about enfing the war.  Obama spoke about Hillary&#039;s Iraq vote.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yet, Hillary is, of course, the &#039;divider&#039; in most Ovama-bent commentary.&lt;br&gt;You can&#039;t believe anything she says.  She probably caused the tsunami and the current Wall St. crisis, as well.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They are all politicians,  folks.  They will all say whatever they feel will get them elected.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When it comes to Iraq, I give Hillary  credit for doing her homework and publishing her proposed plan for withdrawal in detail.  I give her credit, becuae it&#039;s risky.  There are always unforseen circumstances in the future and plenty of folks eager to take her to task for any deviance from her plans.  It&#039;s politically much safer to remain vague and just promise peace and prosperity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an interesting contrast in snippets from the latest speeches by Hillary and Obama.<br />Hillary spoke about enfing the war.  Obama spoke about Hillary&#39;s Iraq vote.</p>
<p>Yet, Hillary is, of course, the &#39;divider&#39; in most Ovama-bent commentary.<br />You can&#39;t believe anything she says.  She probably caused the tsunami and the current Wall St. crisis, as well.  </p>
<p>They are all politicians,  folks.  They will all say whatever they feel will get them elected.   </p>
<p>When it comes to Iraq, I give Hillary  credit for doing her homework and publishing her proposed plan for withdrawal in detail.  I give her credit, becuae it&#39;s risky.  There are always unforseen circumstances in the future and plenty of folks eager to take her to task for any deviance from her plans.  It&#39;s politically much safer to remain vague and just promise peace and prosperity.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soory &#039;bout the long link mess, though it still seems to work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soory &#39;bout the long link mess, though it still seems to work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most of her policies on Iraq as stated.  Though I&#039;m not sure there is any way of enforcing &quot;the country’s oil revenues, instead of U.S. taxpayer dollars, increasingly be used to fund Iraq’s reconstruction&quot; at this point.  Iraq is obviously not swimming in oil reserves money, and with Iraqi corruption diverting vast amounts of it to the black market &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/world/middleeast/16insurgent.html?&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/world/middlee...&lt;/a&gt; _r=1&amp;bl=&amp;ei=5087&amp;en=e2c8b398ef89c553&amp;ex=1205812800&amp;pagewanted=all&amp;oref=slogin  we&#039;ll continue to dump increasingly worthless dollars into a pit we keep digging deeper, the longer we stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of her policies on Iraq as stated.  Though I&#39;m not sure there is any way of enforcing &#8220;the country’s oil revenues, instead of U.S. taxpayer dollars, increasingly be used to fund Iraq’s reconstruction&#8221; at this point.  Iraq is obviously not swimming in oil reserves money, and with Iraqi corruption diverting vast amounts of it to the black market <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/world/middleeast/16insurgent.html?">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/world/middlee&#8230;</a> _r=1&#038;bl=&#038;ei=5087&#038;en=e2c8b398ef89c553&#038;ex=1205812800&#038;pagewanted=all&#038;oref=slogin  we&#39;ll continue to dump increasingly worthless dollars into a pit we keep digging deeper, the longer we stay.</p>
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		<title>By: disability &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary Clinton Speaks on her Plan to End the Iraq War Responsibly</title>
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		<dc:creator>disability &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary Clinton Speaks on her Plan to End the Iraq War Responsibly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s also a time we put an end, once and for all, to the no-bid contracts that squander taxpayer money while lining the pockets of the president’s cronies. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What?  End no bid contracts to Halliburton?   Does anyone else wonder why Hillary apparantly supported no bid contracts to Halliiburton when she was busy gaining all that experience?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m just not sure she really wants to bring the subject of Halliburton no bid contracts up at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s also a time we put an end, once and for all, to the no-bid contracts that squander taxpayer money while lining the pockets of the president’s cronies. </p></blockquote>
<p>What?  End no bid contracts to Halliburton?   Does anyone else wonder why Hillary apparantly supported no bid contracts to Halliiburton when she was busy gaining all that experience?</p>
<p>I&#39;m just not sure she really wants to bring the subject of Halliburton no bid contracts up at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: the key</title>
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		<dc:creator>the key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] towersshamrock shakes mcdonaldsncaa tournamentshillelagh wicklowqotd the best brewirish dinnersHillary Clinton Speaks on her Plan to End the Iraq War Responsibly I have excerpted some of her key points and arguments, many of which are already in the process of [...]</description>
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