Comments on: The long fall from perfection http://themoderatevoice.com/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:20:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: cosmoetica http://themoderatevoice.com/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-149702 cosmoetica Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:30:07 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/bill-clinton/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/#comment-149702 Slam: 'Americans always start with the assumption that their elected officials, and others in leadership office, are saints.'<br><br>He leads off his piece with a totally silly statement. Am's always think of pols as crooks, and w good reason. It's an Am. truth. Slam: 'Americans always start with the assumption that their elected officials, and others in leadership office, are saints.'

He leads off his piece with a totally silly statement. Am's always think of pols as crooks, and w good reason. It's an Am. truth.

]]> By: bobmunck http://themoderatevoice.com/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-149701 bobmunck Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:53:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/bill-clinton/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/#comment-149701 You seem to be assuming that the majority or the most important of the failings of our politicians are related to sex. Would that they were -- the country would be in much better shape. I'd submit that failings like subverting the Constitution, appointing inept cronies to important positions, and starting unnecessary wars are of orders of magnitude more consequence.<br><br>(Strange. I tried to list foibles from the last several decades of presidents, but every single thing I came up with also applied to the current one. He's textbook!) You seem to be assuming that the majority or the most important of the failings of our politicians are related to sex. Would that they were — the country would be in much better shape. I'd submit that failings like subverting the Constitution, appointing inept cronies to important positions, and starting unnecessary wars are of orders of magnitude more consequence.

(Strange. I tried to list foibles from the last several decades of presidents, but every single thing I came up with also applied to the current one. He's textbook!)

]]> By: Slamfu http://themoderatevoice.com/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-149700 Slamfu Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:00:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/bill-clinton/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/#comment-149700 What do you mean by that Cosmo? What do you mean by that Cosmo?

]]> By: cosmoetica http://themoderatevoice.com/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-149699 cosmoetica Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:38:31 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/bill-clinton/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/#comment-149699 Naive-te is nice. Naive-te is nice.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-149698 DLS Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:21:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/bill-clinton/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/#comment-149698 "When exactly did we decide that it was just no big deal?"<br><br>There never was any perfection in Spitzer and those like him except in the eyes of the exploitable, or the degenerate who have no decency and want no constraints on their behavior -- they have no guilt or shame any more than decency -- and try to excuse what he has done. Those of us advanced beyond toddlerhood are better.<br><br>...<br><br>"Whom the Gods destroy......first they raise up [with help from society's dregs]<br><br>Farewell to the world's pre-eminent sanctimonious self righteous self-appointed moral inquisitor. Not surprisingly, he is as corrupt as a public official can be. <br><br>Smile…there’s justice in the world. Much as McCarthy, this country's last self-appointed shameless inquisitor eventually failed due to his own demons and foibles; this sanctimonious bully is now getting his just due. Good riddance, bully of Wall Street. In the end, your hubris and arrogance was finally your downfall. <br><br>His wife being a good lawyer, I am sure her attendance at the press conference got her at least an extra 10% of the community property!<br><br>There’s truly justice in the world."<br><br><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/03/11/new-york-papers-roast-spitzer/?mod=googlenews_wsj">http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/03/11/new-yo...</a> “When exactly did we decide that it was just no big deal?”

There never was any perfection in Spitzer and those like him except in the eyes of the exploitable, or the degenerate who have no decency and want no constraints on their behavior — they have no guilt or shame any more than decency — and try to excuse what he has done. Those of us advanced beyond toddlerhood are better.

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“Whom the Gods destroy……first they raise up [with help from society's dregs]

Farewell to the world's pre-eminent sanctimonious self righteous self-appointed moral inquisitor. Not surprisingly, he is as corrupt as a public official can be.

Smile…there’s justice in the world. Much as McCarthy, this country's last self-appointed shameless inquisitor eventually failed due to his own demons and foibles; this sanctimonious bully is now getting his just due. Good riddance, bully of Wall Street. In the end, your hubris and arrogance was finally your downfall.

His wife being a good lawyer, I am sure her attendance at the press conference got her at least an extra 10% of the community property!

There’s truly justice in the world.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/03/11/new-yo...

]]> By: Slamfu http://themoderatevoice.com/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-149697 Slamfu Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:50:06 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/bill-clinton/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/#comment-149697 Hardly a fall from perfection. Is it really asking that much of our married leaders they not sleep with hookers? I mean c'mon. We are talking a barebones level of decency here. When exactly did we decide that it was just no big deal? How would you like your loved one betraying you like that? How do you trust someone that can piss all over a lifelong commitment like that, paid money to do it in fact. Its not perfection we want, just some decency. Hardly a fall from perfection. Is it really asking that much of our married leaders they not sleep with hookers? I mean c'mon. We are talking a barebones level of decency here. When exactly did we decide that it was just no big deal? How would you like your loved one betraying you like that? How do you trust someone that can piss all over a lifelong commitment like that, paid money to do it in fact. Its not perfection we want, just some decency.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-149696 DLS Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:33:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/bill-clinton/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/#comment-149696 William Jefferson Clinton [alt. Hillary Rodham Clinton]<br><br> Governor of New York William Jefferson Clinton [alt. Hillary Rodham Clinton]

Governor of New York

]]> By: The long fall from perfection · The Spin Doctor http://themoderatevoice.com/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-111219 The long fall from perfection · The Spin Doctor Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:57:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/bill-clinton/18343/the-long-fall-from-perfection/#comment-111219 [...] AFL-CIO Weblog wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptThe long fall from perfection March 11th, 2008 by MICHAEL GRANT Americans always start with the assumption that their elected officials, and others in leadership office, are saints. Maybe it is because of our cultural faith in goodness, or maybe we are just generous.  How much easier, however, and more practical, the American experience would be, if we just turned the assumption around, and looked at any candidate for office, high or low, as a no-good, immoral, cover-your-ass son of a bitch [...] [...] AFL-CIO Weblog wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptThe long fall from perfection March 11th, 2008 by MICHAEL GRANT Americans always start with the assumption that their elected officials, and others in leadership office, are saints. Maybe it is because of our cultural faith in goodness, or maybe we are just generous.  How much easier, however, and more practical, the American experience would be, if we just turned the assumption around, and looked at any candidate for office, high or low, as a no-good, immoral, cover-your-ass son of a bitch [...]

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