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	<title>Comments on: Hillary Clinton Now Downplays Talk Of Clinton-Obama Democratic Ticket</title>
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		<title>By: janinedm</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18320/hillary-clinton-now-downplays-talk-of-clinton-obama-democratic-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-127549</link>
		<dc:creator>janinedm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is no rule that super-delegates HAVE to vote as the nation&#039;s majority of pledged delegates did. &quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s March 11. We&#039;re all very aware of that fact now. I&#039;ll remind you that there are thousands of legal, stupid moves in chess.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, what are the repercussions for the party if they overturn the vote expressing the will of the electorate. He&#039;s leading in delegates, the popular vote, and the polls. What will be the rationale? &quot;We&#039;ve decided we know better than you. Thank for &#039;voting&#039; I&#039;ll see you in November when it really counts!&quot; Shoot, there&#039;s no rule saying I can&#039;t live on a diet of cheese-whiz and krispy kremes, but that doesn&#039;t make that an intelligent or forward looking move for my future health.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Never has been. IN fact, the Obama campaigns present arguments are rather novel.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can&#039;t think of an example in modern politics where the superdelegates countermanded the voters. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Many super-delegetes are elected officials in their state. Why would any of them whose states voted for Hillary ignore their constituents and vote with the majorities of OTHER states? That&#039;s not what representation is about.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wait, so are you arguing that the superdelegates can vote however they want unless their constituents voted for Hillary? Oy vey.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;This race has become so emotionally charged that lines are getting blurred and facts are being forgotten.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ve all heard those talking points above, and haven&#039;t forgotten them. I&#039;m not, nor is Obama or Clinton, arguing that the rules should change. But as a voter, I have every right to make sure my elected officials are very aware of what I want. That is the essential relationship and a voter and their elected officials. I don&#039;t just vote and then sit quietly in a corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no rule that super-delegates HAVE to vote as the nation&#39;s majority of pledged delegates did. &#8221; </p>
<p>It&#39;s March 11. We&#39;re all very aware of that fact now. I&#39;ll remind you that there are thousands of legal, stupid moves in chess.</p>
<p>However, what are the repercussions for the party if they overturn the vote expressing the will of the electorate. He&#39;s leading in delegates, the popular vote, and the polls. What will be the rationale? &#8220;We&#39;ve decided we know better than you. Thank for &#39;voting&#39; I&#39;ll see you in November when it really counts!&#8221; Shoot, there&#39;s no rule saying I can&#39;t live on a diet of cheese-whiz and krispy kremes, but that doesn&#39;t make that an intelligent or forward looking move for my future health.</p>
<p>&#8220;Never has been. IN fact, the Obama campaigns present arguments are rather novel.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#39;t think of an example in modern politics where the superdelegates countermanded the voters. </p>
<p>&#8220;Many super-delegetes are elected officials in their state. Why would any of them whose states voted for Hillary ignore their constituents and vote with the majorities of OTHER states? That&#39;s not what representation is about.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait, so are you arguing that the superdelegates can vote however they want unless their constituents voted for Hillary? Oy vey.</p>
<p>&#8220;This race has become so emotionally charged that lines are getting blurred and facts are being forgotten.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#39;ve all heard those talking points above, and haven&#39;t forgotten them. I&#39;m not, nor is Obama or Clinton, arguing that the rules should change. But as a voter, I have every right to make sure my elected officials are very aware of what I want. That is the essential relationship and a voter and their elected officials. I don&#39;t just vote and then sit quietly in a corner.</p>
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		<title>By: The Obama for VP Trial Balloon and Clinton Politics - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18320/hillary-clinton-now-downplays-talk-of-clinton-obama-democratic-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-111200</link>
		<dc:creator>The Obama for VP Trial Balloon and Clinton Politics - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Realizing that the talk of Obama being Clinton&#8217;s running mate isn&#8217;t going anywhere, Joe Gandelman reports that this trial balloon has quickly popped. Written by Ron [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Realizing that the talk of Obama being Clinton&#8217;s running mate isn&#8217;t going anywhere, Joe Gandelman reports that this trial balloon has quickly popped. Written by Ron [...]</p>
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		<title>By: On Second Thought, Never Mind&#8230;. &#171; Liberty Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Second Thought, Never Mind&#8230;. &#171; Liberty Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] does not have the experience to be president (which, duh, the vice-president must have), is now backpedaling with all her might: Should we call it “the trial balloon that quickly popped?” New York Senator [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] does not have the experience to be president (which, duh, the vice-president must have), is now backpedaling with all her might: Should we call it “the trial balloon that quickly popped?” New York Senator [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cupples</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cupples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reason Hillary is now downplaying the possibility of a joint ticket is likely because Obama has made multiple statements to the media that he isn&#039;t game.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Side issue: pledged delegates matter, but there is no rule that super-delegates HAVE to vote as the nation&#039;s majority of pledged delegates did. Never has been.  IN fact, the Obama campaigns present arguments are rather novel.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many super-delegetes are elected officials in their state. Why would any of them whose states voted for Hillary ignore their constituents and vote with the majorities of OTHER states?  That&#039;s not what representation is about.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This race has become so emotionally charged that lines are getting blurred and facts are being forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, </p>
<p>The reason Hillary is now downplaying the possibility of a joint ticket is likely because Obama has made multiple statements to the media that he isn&#39;t game.</p>
<p>Side issue: pledged delegates matter, but there is no rule that super-delegates HAVE to vote as the nation&#39;s majority of pledged delegates did. Never has been.  IN fact, the Obama campaigns present arguments are rather novel.</p>
<p>Many super-delegetes are elected officials in their state. Why would any of them whose states voted for Hillary ignore their constituents and vote with the majorities of OTHER states?  That&#39;s not what representation is about.</p>
<p>This race has become so emotionally charged that lines are getting blurred and facts are being forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: That Didn&#8217;t Last Too Terribly Long &#187; Comments from Left Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>That Didn&#8217;t Last Too Terribly Long &#187; Comments from Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the case, it looks as though this charade is coming to an end as Joe Gandelman points out.  After a few days of teasing the party with hints of a joint ticket, Clinton now says that such [...]</description>
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