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It's a contemporary Net-slash-techno-geek term (I don't use it, as a rule, but I understand what it means) that has a number of meanings, and here you can use the meaning that CO's comeback wasn't merely a victory, but a devastating one. (That word was accurately used by Macan.) It wasn't devastating in that it was bombastic or attention-getting, but was a thorough comeback to anyone who would say McCain is unpatriotic, or otherwise is put down by the rabid anti-war group who would bash him because he's been other than rabidly anti-war on Iraq.
(Ironically it is the rabid far-left ones that “pwn” the intellectually level that merits if not mandates the use of crude measures such as Cosmo described. That and pictures, I guess. I prefer something more subtle — or is that refined or even “nuanced”? — as my references to captions indicates, but for a number of reasons I didn't originally substitute my preference in place of “home run — space shot,” the scene of Marshall and gold pieces showering the chess board.)
It's a contemporary Net-slash-techno-geek term (I don't use it, as a rule, but I understand what it means) that has a number of meanings, and here you can use the meaning that CO's comeback wasn't merely a victory, but a devastating one. (That word was accurately used by Macan.) It wasn't devastating in that it was bombastic or attention-getting, but was a thorough comeback to anyone who would say McCain is unpatriotic, or otherwise is put down by the rabid anti-war group who would bash him because he's been other than rabidly anti-war on Iraq.
(Ironically it is the rabid far-left ones that “pwn” the intellectually level that merits if not mandates the use of crude measures such as Cosmo described. That and pictures, I guess. I prefer something more subtle — or is that refined or even “nuanced”? — as my references to captions indicates, but for a number of reasons I didn't originally substitute my preference in place of “home run — space shot,” the scene of Marshall and gold pieces showering the chess board.)
But DLS- No one is saying McCain is unpatriotic??? Most think he's probably the most patriotic in the Senate. That's why CO's comment makes no sense to me- its not a cheap shot at McCain, but a defense of Obama.
But DLS- No one is saying McCain is unpatriotic??? Most think he's probably the most patriotic in the Senate. That's why CO's comment makes no sense to me- its not a cheap shot at McCain, but a defense of Obama.
Kim, the reason that it was a cheap shot at McCain is found in nicrivera's comment: McCain never applied any kind of standard of apparel for proof of patriotism, so there's no reason for any questions of hypocrisy to be even hinted at surrounding him.
Perhaps everyone here assumes that Shaun didn't mean it as an attack on McCain, but it's a bit disingenuous to act as though hinting that his supporters SHOULD attack him over this isn't still an attack on McCain himself (if they don't, they're hypocrites, and the GOP who don't support him are hypocrites according to Shaun because they won't attack him the same way as they did Obama, even though I've already demonstrated that the attacks on Obama over this weren't strictly over the lack of the pin, it was over his insistence that wearing the pin meant that someone was probably a false patriot.)
Besides being disingenuous to ignore that attacking supporters (or those who are not happy with their party's candidate but refuse to attack that candidate on the same grounds that they attacked the opposition party candidate) isn't an attempt to tarnish the candidate himself, there's also the fact that it's just stupid politically to go anywhere near a conversation about patriotism of a veteran who paid such a high price for his service in war- the Democrats obviously know this well since they have lately begun grooming all sorts of Vietnam veterans and assuming that their status immunizes them against any insinuation of lack of patriotism. If the Dems want that immunization to be true, they ought not to test it on McCain, of all people (I'd say that 5-1/2 years in captivity by a brutal enemy ought to be sufficient immunization against quite a lot.)
What a lot of people are missing is that the whole pin controversy came up when some on the left were using the LACK of a pin as a badge of honor- like Kerry throwing his medals over the WH fence, this was a show of unity with the anti-war. I find the whole matter to be a contrived controversy, but I've already summed it up like this: right wing nuts were claiming that wearing a pin meant that the wearer was expressing patriotism, and left moonbats were claiming that NOT wearing a pin expressed patriotism because they believe that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. Both extremes are silly because in both cases, action is more important than cheap outward expressions (one type of expression or the other.) The most correct stance for politicians to take would be to say that pins are expressions that some people choose as an outward sign, but wearing one doesn't take the place of actions and that people are entitled to have different views on what it means to act in a patriotic way. That wasn't, however, the response that Obama chose to explain why he took off his pin and decided not to put it on again.
Kim, the reason that it was a cheap shot at McCain is found in nicrivera's comment: McCain never applied any kind of standard of apparel for proof of patriotism, so there's no reason for any questions of hypocrisy to be even hinted at surrounding him.
Perhaps everyone here assumes that Shaun didn't mean it as an attack on McCain, but it's a bit disingenuous to act as though hinting that his supporters SHOULD attack him over this isn't still an attack on McCain himself (if they don't, they're hypocrites, and the GOP who don't support him are hypocrites according to Shaun because they won't attack him the same way as they did Obama, even though I've already demonstrated that the attacks on Obama over this weren't strictly over the lack of the pin, it was over his insistence that wearing the pin meant that someone was probably a false patriot.)
Besides being disingenuous to ignore that attacking supporters (or those who are not happy with their party's candidate but refuse to attack that candidate on the same grounds that they attacked the opposition party candidate) isn't an attempt to tarnish the candidate himself, there's also the fact that it's just stupid politically to go anywhere near a conversation about patriotism of a veteran who paid such a high price for his service in war- the Democrats obviously know this well since they have lately begun grooming all sorts of Vietnam veterans and assuming that their status immunizes them against any insinuation of lack of patriotism. If the Dems want that immunization to be true, they ought not to test it on McCain, of all people (I'd say that 5-1/2 years in captivity by a brutal enemy ought to be sufficient immunization against quite a lot.)
What a lot of people are missing is that the whole pin controversy came up when some on the left were using the LACK of a pin as a badge of honor- like Kerry throwing his medals over the WH fence, this was a show of unity with the anti-war. I find the whole matter to be a contrived controversy, but I've already summed it up like this: right wing nuts were claiming that wearing a pin meant that the wearer was expressing patriotism, and left moonbats were claiming that NOT wearing a pin expressed patriotism because they believe that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. Both extremes are silly because in both cases, action is more important than cheap outward expressions (one type of expression or the other.) The most correct stance for politicians to take would be to say that pins are expressions that some people choose as an outward sign, but wearing one doesn't take the place of actions and that people are entitled to have different views on what it means to act in a patriotic way. That wasn't, however, the response that Obama chose to explain why he took off his pin and decided not to put it on again.
“What is pwnage?”
Short version: In this case, “IN YOUR FACE!”
Long version:
It's a contemporary Net-slash-techno-geek term (I don't use it, as a rule, but I understand what it means) that has a number of meanings, and here you can use the meaning that CO's comeback wasn't merely a victory, but a devastating one. (That word was accurately used by Macan.) It wasn't devastating in that it was bombastic or attention-getting, but was a thorough comeback to anyone who would say McCain is unpatriotic, or otherwise is put down by the rabid anti-war group who would bash him because he's been other than rabidly anti-war on Iraq.
(Ironically it is the rabid far-left ones that “pwn” the intellectually level that merits if not mandates the use of crude measures such as Cosmo described. That and pictures, I guess. I prefer something more subtle — or is that refined or even “nuanced”? — as my references to captions indicates, but for a number of reasons I didn't originally substitute my preference in place of “home run — space shot,” the scene of Marshall and gold pieces showering the chess board.)
“What is pwnage?”
Short version: In this case, “IN YOUR FACE!”
Long version:
It's a contemporary Net-slash-techno-geek term (I don't use it, as a rule, but I understand what it means) that has a number of meanings, and here you can use the meaning that CO's comeback wasn't merely a victory, but a devastating one. (That word was accurately used by Macan.) It wasn't devastating in that it was bombastic or attention-getting, but was a thorough comeback to anyone who would say McCain is unpatriotic, or otherwise is put down by the rabid anti-war group who would bash him because he's been other than rabidly anti-war on Iraq.
(Ironically it is the rabid far-left ones that “pwn” the intellectually level that merits if not mandates the use of crude measures such as Cosmo described. That and pictures, I guess. I prefer something more subtle — or is that refined or even “nuanced”? — as my references to captions indicates, but for a number of reasons I didn't originally substitute my preference in place of “home run — space shot,” the scene of Marshall and gold pieces showering the chess board.)
But DLS- No one is saying McCain is unpatriotic??? Most think he's probably the most patriotic in the Senate. That's why CO's comment makes no sense to me- its not a cheap shot at McCain, but a defense of Obama.
But DLS- No one is saying McCain is unpatriotic??? Most think he's probably the most patriotic in the Senate. That's why CO's comment makes no sense to me- its not a cheap shot at McCain, but a defense of Obama.
Thanks for explaining, DLS!
Thanks for explaining, DLS!
Kim, the reason that it was a cheap shot at McCain is found in nicrivera's comment: McCain never applied any kind of standard of apparel for proof of patriotism, so there's no reason for any questions of hypocrisy to be even hinted at surrounding him.
Perhaps everyone here assumes that Shaun didn't mean it as an attack on McCain, but it's a bit disingenuous to act as though hinting that his supporters SHOULD attack him over this isn't still an attack on McCain himself (if they don't, they're hypocrites, and the GOP who don't support him are hypocrites according to Shaun because they won't attack him the same way as they did Obama, even though I've already demonstrated that the attacks on Obama over this weren't strictly over the lack of the pin, it was over his insistence that wearing the pin meant that someone was probably a false patriot.)
Besides being disingenuous to ignore that attacking supporters (or those who are not happy with their party's candidate but refuse to attack that candidate on the same grounds that they attacked the opposition party candidate) isn't an attempt to tarnish the candidate himself, there's also the fact that it's just stupid politically to go anywhere near a conversation about patriotism of a veteran who paid such a high price for his service in war- the Democrats obviously know this well since they have lately begun grooming all sorts of Vietnam veterans and assuming that their status immunizes them against any insinuation of lack of patriotism. If the Dems want that immunization to be true, they ought not to test it on McCain, of all people (I'd say that 5-1/2 years in captivity by a brutal enemy ought to be sufficient immunization against quite a lot.)
What a lot of people are missing is that the whole pin controversy came up when some on the left were using the LACK of a pin as a badge of honor- like Kerry throwing his medals over the WH fence, this was a show of unity with the anti-war. I find the whole matter to be a contrived controversy, but I've already summed it up like this: right wing nuts were claiming that wearing a pin meant that the wearer was expressing patriotism, and left moonbats were claiming that NOT wearing a pin expressed patriotism because they believe that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. Both extremes are silly because in both cases, action is more important than cheap outward expressions (one type of expression or the other.) The most correct stance for politicians to take would be to say that pins are expressions that some people choose as an outward sign, but wearing one doesn't take the place of actions and that people are entitled to have different views on what it means to act in a patriotic way. That wasn't, however, the response that Obama chose to explain why he took off his pin and decided not to put it on again.
Kim, the reason that it was a cheap shot at McCain is found in nicrivera's comment: McCain never applied any kind of standard of apparel for proof of patriotism, so there's no reason for any questions of hypocrisy to be even hinted at surrounding him.
Perhaps everyone here assumes that Shaun didn't mean it as an attack on McCain, but it's a bit disingenuous to act as though hinting that his supporters SHOULD attack him over this isn't still an attack on McCain himself (if they don't, they're hypocrites, and the GOP who don't support him are hypocrites according to Shaun because they won't attack him the same way as they did Obama, even though I've already demonstrated that the attacks on Obama over this weren't strictly over the lack of the pin, it was over his insistence that wearing the pin meant that someone was probably a false patriot.)
Besides being disingenuous to ignore that attacking supporters (or those who are not happy with their party's candidate but refuse to attack that candidate on the same grounds that they attacked the opposition party candidate) isn't an attempt to tarnish the candidate himself, there's also the fact that it's just stupid politically to go anywhere near a conversation about patriotism of a veteran who paid such a high price for his service in war- the Democrats obviously know this well since they have lately begun grooming all sorts of Vietnam veterans and assuming that their status immunizes them against any insinuation of lack of patriotism. If the Dems want that immunization to be true, they ought not to test it on McCain, of all people (I'd say that 5-1/2 years in captivity by a brutal enemy ought to be sufficient immunization against quite a lot.)
What a lot of people are missing is that the whole pin controversy came up when some on the left were using the LACK of a pin as a badge of honor- like Kerry throwing his medals over the WH fence, this was a show of unity with the anti-war. I find the whole matter to be a contrived controversy, but I've already summed it up like this: right wing nuts were claiming that wearing a pin meant that the wearer was expressing patriotism, and left moonbats were claiming that NOT wearing a pin expressed patriotism because they believe that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. Both extremes are silly because in both cases, action is more important than cheap outward expressions (one type of expression or the other.) The most correct stance for politicians to take would be to say that pins are expressions that some people choose as an outward sign, but wearing one doesn't take the place of actions and that people are entitled to have different views on what it means to act in a patriotic way. That wasn't, however, the response that Obama chose to explain why he took off his pin and decided not to put it on again.
“Thanks for explaining, DLS!”
[smiles, salutes]
“Thanks for explaining, DLS!”
[smiles, salutes]