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		<title>By: dj`s staff &#187; Blog Archive &#187; See Sound Lounge - don&#8217;t miss this show</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/comment-page-1/#comment-111125</link>
		<dc:creator>dj`s staff &#187; Blog Archive &#187; See Sound Lounge - don&#8217;t miss this show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hillary has said recently on multiple occasions that she and McCain are competent commander-in-chiefs, but that Obama isn&#8217;t, implying that the Republican nominee is more qualified than one of the Democratic nominees.&#160; She is essentially trying to discredit Obama for her own gain so much that she is willing to risk a Democratic win in November against McCain (if Obama is the Democratic nominee).&#160; She is selfish and cares more about herself than she does about the ideals of her party.http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hillary has said recently on multiple occasions that she and McCain are competent commander-in-chiefs, but that Obama isn&#8217;t, implying that the Republican nominee is more qualified than one of the Democratic nominees.&nbsp; She is essentially trying to discredit Obama for her own gain so much that she is willing to risk a Democratic win in November against McCain (if Obama is the Democratic nominee).&nbsp; She is selfish and cares more about herself than she does about the ideals of her party.http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dj`s staff &#187; Blog Archive</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/comment-page-1/#comment-111120</link>
		<dc:creator>dj`s staff &#187; Blog Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hillary has said recently on multiple occasions that she and McCain are competent commander-in-chiefs, but that Obama isn&#8217;t, implying that the Republican nominee is more qualified than one of the Democratic nominees.&#160; She is essentially trying to discredit Obama for her own gain so much that she is willing to risk a Democratic win in November against McCain (if Obama is the Democratic nominee).&#160; She is selfish and cares more about herself than she does about the ideals of her party.http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hillary has said recently on multiple occasions that she and McCain are competent commander-in-chiefs, but that Obama isn&#8217;t, implying that the Republican nominee is more qualified than one of the Democratic nominees.&nbsp; She is essentially trying to discredit Obama for her own gain so much that she is willing to risk a Democratic win in November against McCain (if Obama is the Democratic nominee).&nbsp; She is selfish and cares more about herself than she does about the ideals of her party.http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dj`s staff &#187; Blog Archive &#187; YouTube de Mantenimiento</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/comment-page-1/#comment-111106</link>
		<dc:creator>dj`s staff &#187; Blog Archive &#187; YouTube de Mantenimiento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hillary has said recently on multiple occasions that she and McCain are competent commander-in-chiefs, but that Obama isn&#8217;t, implying that the Republican nominee is more qualified than one of the Democratic nominees.&#160; She is essentially trying to discredit Obama for her own gain so much that she is willing to risk a Democratic win in November against McCain (if Obama is the Democratic nominee).&#160; She is selfish and cares more about herself than she does about the ideals of her party.http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hillary has said recently on multiple occasions that she and McCain are competent commander-in-chiefs, but that Obama isn&#8217;t, implying that the Republican nominee is more qualified than one of the Democratic nominees.&nbsp; She is essentially trying to discredit Obama for her own gain so much that she is willing to risk a Democratic win in November against McCain (if Obama is the Democratic nominee).&nbsp; She is selfish and cares more about herself than she does about the ideals of her party.http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dj`s staff &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary&#8217;s attempt to destroy the Democratic Party - Part 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj`s staff &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary&#8217;s attempt to destroy the Democratic Party - Part 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hillary has said recently on multiple occasions that she and McCain are competent commander-in-chiefs, but that Obama isn&#8217;t, implying that the Republican nominee is more qualified than one of the Democratic nominees.&#160; She is essentially trying to discredit Obama for her own gain so much that she is willing to risk a Democratic win in November against McCain (if Obama is the Democratic nominee).&#160; She is selfish and cares more about herself than she does about the ideals of her party.http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hillary has said recently on multiple occasions that she and McCain are competent commander-in-chiefs, but that Obama isn&#8217;t, implying that the Republican nominee is more qualified than one of the Democratic nominees.&nbsp; She is essentially trying to discredit Obama for her own gain so much that she is willing to risk a Democratic win in November against McCain (if Obama is the Democratic nominee).&nbsp; She is selfish and cares more about herself than she does about the ideals of her party.http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dj`s staff &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Who pulled out their cauc(us)?</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/comment-page-1/#comment-111104</link>
		<dc:creator>dj`s staff &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Who pulled out their cauc(us)?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hillary has said recently on multiple occasions that she and McCain are competent commander-in-chiefs, but that Obama isn&#8217;t, implying that the Republican nominee is more qualified than one of the Democratic nominees.&#160; She is essentially trying to discredit Obama for her own gain so much that she is willing to risk a Democratic win in November against McCain (if Obama is the Democratic nominee).&#160; She is selfish and cares more about herself than she does about the ideals of her party.http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hillary has said recently on multiple occasions that she and McCain are competent commander-in-chiefs, but that Obama isn&#8217;t, implying that the Republican nominee is more qualified than one of the Democratic nominees.&nbsp; She is essentially trying to discredit Obama for her own gain so much that she is willing to risk a Democratic win in November against McCain (if Obama is the Democratic nominee).&nbsp; She is selfish and cares more about herself than she does about the ideals of her party.http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cosmoetica</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/comment-page-1/#comment-140050</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmoetica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Holly, dear Holly. Why do you increasingly make the return to frontal lobotomies seem needed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Holly, dear Holly. Why do you increasingly make the return to frontal lobotomies seem needed?</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/comment-page-1/#comment-140049</link>
		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton has never spelled out the threshold she&#039;s crossed (along with McCain), so I&#039;ve been trying to guess it. My best idea is her role on the Armed Services Committee. That is a nice start. However, how important should this or similar experience be because hardly any President of the last 50 years could pass this threshold test. Certainly not George W. or Bill Clinton. You would think the latter item would make the current Clinton think that her Armed Services experience is not necessary to being a good Commander-in-Chief, but perhaps she thinks poorly of her husband&#039;s foreign policy. Now, the first George Bush would pass the foreign policy test (and knock both McCain and Clinton to the side), but he seems to be the only exception, and the primary thing he did with foreign policy is NOT take down Saddam. Reagan wouldn&#039;t pass, nor would Carter, not Ford. Maybe Nixon, maybe LBJ, not Kennedy. Not Truman, I don&#039;t believe.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You get the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton has never spelled out the threshold she&#39;s crossed (along with McCain), so I&#39;ve been trying to guess it. My best idea is her role on the Armed Services Committee. That is a nice start. However, how important should this or similar experience be because hardly any President of the last 50 years could pass this threshold test. Certainly not George W. or Bill Clinton. You would think the latter item would make the current Clinton think that her Armed Services experience is not necessary to being a good Commander-in-Chief, but perhaps she thinks poorly of her husband&#39;s foreign policy. Now, the first George Bush would pass the foreign policy test (and knock both McCain and Clinton to the side), but he seems to be the only exception, and the primary thing he did with foreign policy is NOT take down Saddam. Reagan wouldn&#39;t pass, nor would Carter, not Ford. Maybe Nixon, maybe LBJ, not Kennedy. Not Truman, I don&#39;t believe.</p>
<p>You get the point.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/comment-page-1/#comment-140048</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is why Barack Obama is getting all these young people and crossover votes.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The young people are largely naive.  More interesting are the crossover votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is why Barack Obama is getting all these young people and crossover votes.&#8221;</p>
<p>The young people are largely naive.  More interesting are the crossover votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/comment-page-1/#comment-140046</link>
		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary and McCain have experience.   Tons of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Experience in making wrong decisions regarding foreign policy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dick Cheney and Colin Powell share that same experience.   So do Paul Wolfowitz and Doug Feith.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not sure how much more foreign policy &lt;i&gt;experience&lt;/i&gt; this country can take.   Personally I&#039;m hoping for a president with good judgement rather than a  highly experienced idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary and McCain have experience.   Tons of it.</p>
<p>Experience in making wrong decisions regarding foreign policy.</p>
<p>Dick Cheney and Colin Powell share that same experience.   So do Paul Wolfowitz and Doug Feith.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not sure how much more foreign policy <i>experience</i> this country can take.   Personally I&#39;m hoping for a president with good judgement rather than a  highly experienced idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: enh124</title>
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		<dc:creator>enh124</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and about Ron Paul:  he is what Rockefeller Republicans want except for his anti-abortion, pro-gun stances.  Yet, all of these liberal kids have flocked to him.  Why?  Because he is on record for being someone who is a straight shooter and is committed to America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and about Ron Paul:  he is what Rockefeller Republicans want except for his anti-abortion, pro-gun stances.  Yet, all of these liberal kids have flocked to him.  Why?  Because he is on record for being someone who is a straight shooter and is committed to America.</p>
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		<title>By: enh124</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/18245/hillary-makes-a-primary-gaffe/comment-page-1/#comment-140043</link>
		<dc:creator>enh124</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elrod, I am looking for change and that can only come from someone who believes in what they say and is willing to act on those beliefs -- look at Ron Paul.  This is why so many people have been drawn into this election.  Not only are the issues important, but also there are truly stark choices in personas from a character perspective. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is why Barack Obama is getting all these young people and crossover votes.  This is why anti-abortion, pro-gun Ron Paul is getting all these young voters.  They apparently believe what they say.  I am not willing to vote for a candidate who will say or do anything for political expediency.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My comment stems from my growing sense as the campaign has progressed and Clinton became &quot;desperate&quot; that she was willing to engage in so-called gutter politics.  I sensed here that she might have such personal ambition that it was the power and the prestige of power that she sought rather than true change.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This comment crystallized for me all of those nagging doubts.  It was, for me at least, the seminal moment when I crossed from doubting her ambition over character persona to believing her to have ambition over character.  It means she is not someone I can trust and I will not vote for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elrod, I am looking for change and that can only come from someone who believes in what they say and is willing to act on those beliefs &#8212; look at Ron Paul.  This is why so many people have been drawn into this election.  Not only are the issues important, but also there are truly stark choices in personas from a character perspective. </p>
<p>This is why Barack Obama is getting all these young people and crossover votes.  This is why anti-abortion, pro-gun Ron Paul is getting all these young voters.  They apparently believe what they say.  I am not willing to vote for a candidate who will say or do anything for political expediency.</p>
<p>My comment stems from my growing sense as the campaign has progressed and Clinton became &#8220;desperate&#8221; that she was willing to engage in so-called gutter politics.  I sensed here that she might have such personal ambition that it was the power and the prestige of power that she sought rather than true change.</p>
<p>This comment crystallized for me all of those nagging doubts.  It was, for me at least, the seminal moment when I crossed from doubting her ambition over character persona to believing her to have ambition over character.  It means she is not someone I can trust and I will not vote for her.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>casual,&lt;br&gt;Samantha Powers&#039; comments were stupid and she fully apologized for them. But they weren&#039;t uttered by Barack Obama himself. And they don&#039;t elevate the Republican opposition at the expense of Obama&#039;s Democratic rival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>casual,<br />Samantha Powers&#39; comments were stupid and she fully apologized for them. But they weren&#39;t uttered by Barack Obama himself. And they don&#39;t elevate the Republican opposition at the expense of Obama&#39;s Democratic rival.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, enh. And I thought her McCain comparisons would no bother Independents as much as core Democrats. I see your point about character, but one could make the point that one is above party loyalty. In some ways McCain has done this, which is why Republicans don&#039;t like him much. But Hillary&#039;s whole campaign is premised on the belief that she is the standard bearer for Democratic Party values. And now she&#039;s conceding national security to the Republicans. Democrats should be outraged that she would do this publicly, even if they privately worry about Obama as Holly does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, enh. And I thought her McCain comparisons would no bother Independents as much as core Democrats. I see your point about character, but one could make the point that one is above party loyalty. In some ways McCain has done this, which is why Republicans don&#39;t like him much. But Hillary&#39;s whole campaign is premised on the belief that she is the standard bearer for Democratic Party values. And now she&#39;s conceding national security to the Republicans. Democrats should be outraged that she would do this publicly, even if they privately worry about Obama as Holly does.</p>
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		<title>By: enh124</title>
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		<dc:creator>enh124</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I woke up this morning to hear about these comments and see them on youtube:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am forced to comment because this is a seminal moment in my decision-making process.  I have unequivocally decided I could not support Hillary Clinton on any ticket in any race now or ever.  This is my second blog post on the net on this issue.  Let me add a link and my initial first comments, which represent my viewpoint.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, link:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/more_on_the_clinton_obama_and.php&quot;&gt;http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/20...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, my opinion:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would like to focus on a narrow issue that reflects how this comment will affect independent voters. It is character, not substance because it is the lack of character these comments reflect that I believe independent voters will focus on here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I voted for Perot in 92, Gore for President and Clinton for Senator in NY in 2000. For a while, I have been an ardent fan of Ron Paul. So, I represent the truly independent voter in the middle. I have been what used to be called a “Rockefeller Republican”: socially, liberal and fiscally conservative. At Robert Rubin’s direction, Bill Clinton ran a Rockefeller Republican government after 1994. Michael Bloomberg has a Rockefeller Republican administration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I and all of my friends have become disgusted with the Republican party because of George W. Bush, his fiscal profligacy and the War in Iraq. If Ron Paul were a viable candidate, we would vote for him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, every progressive Republican I know has switched sides to the Democrats because of Barack Obama. Initially, I was prepared to vote for any credible Democrat who could reverse the Bush policies of the last 7 years. However, when Hillary started to denigrate Obama and praise McCain in the same breath, that all changed. And this is the problem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I voted for Senator Clinton in 2000 for the Senate. I will never vote for her again — not now, not ever. It was this video clip which turned me — and, I suspect, many like me — from potential crossover democratic voters into no shows in Nov or McCain voters. Hillary Clinton, with one comment, repeated several times, has shown that she will do anything to be elected including tearing down her own party and its chances for the nomination. I cannot in good conscience vote for someone like that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It’s an issue of character. She has demonstrated she has none. She has turned me away from her if she gets nominated. The damage of Hillary’s comment have absolutely nothing to do with content and everything to do with character. This is Hillary’s Achilles Heel with Independents and Moderate Republicans.  The 11th Amendment of Ronald Reagan is basically a reflection of character and principles.  It says that there are certain lines one should not cross as a principled human being and party affiliate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is how many independent-minded voters will vote in November and why she could cost the democrats the election and our country a chance for change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I woke up this morning to hear about these comments and see them on youtube:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw</a></p>
<p>I am forced to comment because this is a seminal moment in my decision-making process.  I have unequivocally decided I could not support Hillary Clinton on any ticket in any race now or ever.  This is my second blog post on the net on this issue.  Let me add a link and my initial first comments, which represent my viewpoint.</p>
<p>First, link:<br /><a href="http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/more_on_the_clinton_obama_and.php"></a><a href="http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/20.." rel="nofollow">http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/20..</a>.</p>
<p>Now, my opinion:</p>
<p>I would like to focus on a narrow issue that reflects how this comment will affect independent voters. It is character, not substance because it is the lack of character these comments reflect that I believe independent voters will focus on here.</p>
<p>I voted for Perot in 92, Gore for President and Clinton for Senator in NY in 2000. For a while, I have been an ardent fan of Ron Paul. So, I represent the truly independent voter in the middle. I have been what used to be called a “Rockefeller Republican”: socially, liberal and fiscally conservative. At Robert Rubin’s direction, Bill Clinton ran a Rockefeller Republican government after 1994. Michael Bloomberg has a Rockefeller Republican administration.</p>
<p>I and all of my friends have become disgusted with the Republican party because of George W. Bush, his fiscal profligacy and the War in Iraq. If Ron Paul were a viable candidate, we would vote for him.</p>
<p>However, every progressive Republican I know has switched sides to the Democrats because of Barack Obama. Initially, I was prepared to vote for any credible Democrat who could reverse the Bush policies of the last 7 years. However, when Hillary started to denigrate Obama and praise McCain in the same breath, that all changed. And this is the problem.</p>
<p>I voted for Senator Clinton in 2000 for the Senate. I will never vote for her again — not now, not ever. It was this video clip which turned me — and, I suspect, many like me — from potential crossover democratic voters into no shows in Nov or McCain voters. Hillary Clinton, with one comment, repeated several times, has shown that she will do anything to be elected including tearing down her own party and its chances for the nomination. I cannot in good conscience vote for someone like that.</p>
<p>It’s an issue of character. She has demonstrated she has none. She has turned me away from her if she gets nominated. The damage of Hillary’s comment have absolutely nothing to do with content and everything to do with character. This is Hillary’s Achilles Heel with Independents and Moderate Republicans.  The 11th Amendment of Ronald Reagan is basically a reflection of character and principles.  It says that there are certain lines one should not cross as a principled human being and party affiliate.</p>
<p>This is how many independent-minded voters will vote in November and why she could cost the democrats the election and our country a chance for change.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What exactly is experience the experience that so highly qualifies John McCain?</description>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly - As the Obama campaign says, what&#039;s Hillary&#039;s claim to experience. She screwed up health care reform and falsely claims major importance in Ireland and Bosnia peace negotiations. Sipping tea in foreign land isn&#039;t a viable example of experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly &#8211; As the Obama campaign says, what&#39;s Hillary&#39;s claim to experience. She screwed up health care reform and falsely claims major importance in Ireland and Bosnia peace negotiations. Sipping tea in foreign land isn&#39;t a viable example of experience.</p>
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		<title>By: denisedh</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have become increasingly disillusioned by the Clinton&#039;s relationship to the Democratic party as a whole.  I voted for Bill in 1992 while living in Montana (he won MT) then moved to Wyoming in 1995.  Until 2006 (and Dean and the 50 state strategy), the national D party showed no involvement in Wyoming.  It was odd to me to see NO campaigning for president from either R or D, having grown up in the midwest.  The lack of involvement allowed right wing talk radio to define Democrats and resulted in most young people calling themselves Republican based largely on the idea that Democrats would strip their 2nd Amendment rights.&lt;br&gt;Wyoming has leaned R, but people here mostly vote for the person and not the party. Because of that, people respond to personal contact by campaigns and candidates--not TV ads.   The D party strategy to focus on swing states and neglect &quot;red&quot; states (emerging largely during the Clinton years) has been short-sighted with regard to building the party and expanding its base.  I have concluded that Bill and Hillary place building the party a distant second in their priorities, and am supporting Obama.  If Hillary had fought the Bush administration likes she is fighting Obama and Bill and his friends in the DNC had come to Wyoming to campaign, not just to vacation, I&#039;d be supporting her now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have become increasingly disillusioned by the Clinton&#39;s relationship to the Democratic party as a whole.  I voted for Bill in 1992 while living in Montana (he won MT) then moved to Wyoming in 1995.  Until 2006 (and Dean and the 50 state strategy), the national D party showed no involvement in Wyoming.  It was odd to me to see NO campaigning for president from either R or D, having grown up in the midwest.  The lack of involvement allowed right wing talk radio to define Democrats and resulted in most young people calling themselves Republican based largely on the idea that Democrats would strip their 2nd Amendment rights.<br />Wyoming has leaned R, but people here mostly vote for the person and not the party. Because of that, people respond to personal contact by campaigns and candidates&#8211;not TV ads.   The D party strategy to focus on swing states and neglect &#8220;red&#8221; states (emerging largely during the Clinton years) has been short-sighted with regard to building the party and expanding its base.  I have concluded that Bill and Hillary place building the party a distant second in their priorities, and am supporting Obama.  If Hillary had fought the Bush administration likes she is fighting Obama and Bill and his friends in the DNC had come to Wyoming to campaign, not just to vacation, I&#39;d be supporting her now.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s even more dumb, though, is that one of her aides likened Obama to Ken Starr, which elevates Obama immediately while resurrecting so many Clinton negatives.</description>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hithertofore coined Archie Bunker factor is already an element, and will be even moreso if Obama makes it to the general election - but first he has to get past Hillary, who is showing an increasing willingness to take the ship down with her. I hope she gets in touch with her conscience before that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hithertofore coined Archie Bunker factor is already an element, and will be even moreso if Obama makes it to the general election &#8211; but first he has to get past Hillary, who is showing an increasing willingness to take the ship down with her. I hope she gets in touch with her conscience before that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, thanks for cleaning up this post Holly. It looks much better with the cartoon and the bolding :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, thanks for cleaning up this post Holly. It looks much better with the cartoon and the bolding <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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