Comments on: Math and Mythology http://themoderatevoice.com/18216/math-and-mythology/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:01:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ryan http://themoderatevoice.com/18216/math-and-mythology/comment-page-1/#comment-135771 ryan Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:30:24 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/18216/math-and-mythology/#comment-135771 I think the math argument is a tough one to dispute - even giving Hillary unrealistically large margins in the remaining primaries she still generally comes up short. She has every right to stay in the race, and in the unlikely event that a scandal erupts in the Obama campaign it will be good to have a competent backup candidate, but the reality right now seems to be that Obama is going to be the nominee.<br><br>Given that reality, I would very much like to see calls from inside and outside the party for Hillary to engage in a "do no harm" campaign. Left on its own her campaign has ripped into Obama over the past several weeks, and this can only be bad for whoever is the nominess come November. Like Huckabee, Clinton can stick around and see if she can swing voters with her message, but since she does not have a realistic chance of overcoming Obama's delegate lead her attacking style that has been used of late needs to be reigned in to prevent harming any chances of regaining the White House. Whether the party pushes this message may determine whether or not President McCain is inaugurated in 2009. I think the math argument is a tough one to dispute – even giving Hillary unrealistically large margins in the remaining primaries she still generally comes up short. She has every right to stay in the race, and in the unlikely event that a scandal erupts in the Obama campaign it will be good to have a competent backup candidate, but the reality right now seems to be that Obama is going to be the nominee.

Given that reality, I would very much like to see calls from inside and outside the party for Hillary to engage in a “do no harm” campaign. Left on its own her campaign has ripped into Obama over the past several weeks, and this can only be bad for whoever is the nominess come November. Like Huckabee, Clinton can stick around and see if she can swing voters with her message, but since she does not have a realistic chance of overcoming Obama's delegate lead her attacking style that has been used of late needs to be reigned in to prevent harming any chances of regaining the White House. Whether the party pushes this message may determine whether or not President McCain is inaugurated in 2009.

]]> By: casualobserver http://themoderatevoice.com/18216/math-and-mythology/comment-page-1/#comment-135769 casualobserver Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:40:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/18216/math-and-mythology/#comment-135769 Sleep until August!? You must not be someone who relishes good political hardball. The 527 money started premiering its handiwork in theTexas markets I hear. I'm sure it will be even more active for PA. Can't wait to see what the rascals come up with this cycle. Sleep until August!? You must not be someone who relishes good political hardball. The 527 money started premiering its handiwork in theTexas markets I hear. I'm sure it will be even more active for PA. Can't wait to see what the rascals come up with this cycle.

]]> By: cosmoetica http://themoderatevoice.com/18216/math-and-mythology/comment-page-1/#comment-135768 cosmoetica Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:19:56 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/18216/math-and-mythology/#comment-135768 I see a slowly widening lead for O till the convention- with a 180-200 delegate lead. The larger narrative is that Red America overwhelmingly rejects Clinton for Obama and Blue America slightly prefers her over him.<br><br>Which strategy looks best? Protect your base and cut into the other guy's, or Hillary's which makes the last two races' status quos remain, and hope for a Mac slip up or Republican apathy? I see a slowly widening lead for O till the convention- with a 180-200 delegate lead. The larger narrative is that Red America overwhelmingly rejects Clinton for Obama and Blue America slightly prefers her over him.

Which strategy looks best? Protect your base and cut into the other guy's, or Hillary's which makes the last two races' status quos remain, and hope for a Mac slip up or Republican apathy?

]]> By: Math and Mythology · SmokeSignalz http://themoderatevoice.com/18216/math-and-mythology/comment-page-1/#comment-111029 Math and Mythology · SmokeSignalz Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:54:42 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/18216/math-and-mythology/#comment-111029 [...] Discourse.net: On the fringes of the public sphere wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptMath and Mythology March 5th, 2008 by PETE ABEL I received a mass-email from the Obama campaign about three hours ago, but did not have a chance to post on it until now; subject line was simply “The math.” From the intro, leading up to the inevitable money ask: Our projections show the most likely outcome of yesterday’s elections will be that Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and we gained 183. That’s a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available from all the state [...] [...] Discourse.net: On the fringes of the public sphere wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptMath and Mythology March 5th, 2008 by PETE ABEL I received a mass-email from the Obama campaign about three hours ago, but did not have a chance to post on it until now; subject line was simply “The math.” From the intro, leading up to the inevitable money ask: Our projections show the most likely outcome of yesterday’s elections will be that Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and we gained 183. That’s a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available from all the state [...]

]]> By: Math and Mythology http://themoderatevoice.com/18216/math-and-mythology/comment-page-1/#comment-111028 Math and Mythology Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:13:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/18216/math-and-mythology/#comment-111028 [...] Discourse.net: On the fringes of the public sphere wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptMath and Mythology March 5th, 2008 by PETE ABEL I received a mass-email from the Obama campaign about three hours ago, but did not have a chance to post on it until now; subject line was simply “The math.” From the intro, leading up to the inevitable money ask: Our projections show the most likely outcome of yesterday’s elections will be that Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and we gained 183. That’s a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available from all the state [...] [...] Discourse.net: On the fringes of the public sphere wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptMath and Mythology March 5th, 2008 by PETE ABEL I received a mass-email from the Obama campaign about three hours ago, but did not have a chance to post on it until now; subject line was simply “The math.” From the intro, leading up to the inevitable money ask: Our projections show the most likely outcome of yesterday’s elections will be that Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and we gained 183. That’s a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available from all the state [...]

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