Comments on: Democracy in Action: The What You Need To Know Ohio Primary List

By: Jillmz

Jillmz — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:22:56 +0000

Elrod, that is cute and true to some extent – I think it depends on the election year and how you see things, but I'm not sure it really compares to 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina, you know?

By: elrod

elrod — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:15:34 +0000

Jill,
A national political campaign is one long emergency. You can tell a lot about someone's coolness under pressure by a campaign. I've been impressed by Obama on this – a lot.

That said, Ohio will be a mess tomorrow. Hillary Clinton will win Ohio by 8 points, 54-46 and pick up a net of 11 delegates. Obama will win Texas by 3 or 4, but with the weird system there will end up ahead 18 net delegates (caucus total and screwy delegate system). Clinton wins RI by 9 and picks up 3 delegates and Obama wins Vermont by 30 and picks up 5 delegates. Obama ends the night up about 7 to 9 delegates. If the Ohio margin is bigger (SUSA had Clinton up 10) then Obama ends the night up 3 to 5 delegates. Texas won't change much because of their weird system – Obama wins by 10 on the primary portion and by 8 on the caucus portion for a total of 18.

What happens next is anybody's guess.

By: Jillmz

Jillmz — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:51:01 +0000

Well now wait – I can understand what you or others might say about Hilary – I think it's overstated by you here, but okay – I can accept that some people don't see her management in an ER okay. Fine.

But can you give an example Obama acting in or action by him that would foreshadow what his behavior would be in, as you say, an emergency?

By: vwcat

vwcat — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:46:16 +0000

Given the way Hillary has run her campaign, I wouldn't want her anywhere near an emergency.
Obama has the cool head and good judgment to make the right decision.

By: Jillmz

Jillmz — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:31:35 +0000

I agree about McCain relative to Allen or Santorum, for sure the latter. But I think that there's plenty to not like about him.

Honestly – I just wrote earlier today how I'm voting tomorrow out of a sense of duty and obligation, not out of a sense of support for anyone. That makes me sad, that I feel that way.

By: kritt11

kritt11 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:15:50 +0000

Sorta feel bad for McCain as this has to be his last try. He's not as ridiculous as someone like George Allen or Rick Santorum would have been. He's hard to dislike. But that doesn't mean I don't want the Dems back in power. Barring a seachange they should win big in congressional races and the presidency.

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By: DLS

DLS — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:22:39 +0000

Enjoy this election. The Dem contest is everything this year. McCain is merely a sacrificial lamb who will come later.

By: Jillmz

Jillmz — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:59:03 +0000

Thanks, DLS – how exactly do you define “fun”? That's a half-joke.

By: DLS

DLS — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:43:47 +0000

I'd rate Ohio as more important than Texas even though Texas has more delegates at stake.

Have fun in and around Cleveland.

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