Comments on: Political Tea Leaves: Clinton Has Not Vowed To Continue Campaign Beyond March 4 http://themoderatevoice.com/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:33:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Fundraising » Political Tea Leaves: Clinton Has Not Vowed To Continue Campaign … http://themoderatevoice.com/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/comment-page-1/#comment-110739 Fundraising » Political Tea Leaves: Clinton Has Not Vowed To Continue Campaign … Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:16:18 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/#comment-110739 [...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptDespite trial balloons that the Hillary Clinton campaign might go after 2008 Presidential nomination rival Barack Obama’s pledged delegates and put a full-court-press on collecting Superdelegates if she fizzles out in the March 4th … Read the rest of this great post here [...] [...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptDespite trial balloons that the Hillary Clinton campaign might go after 2008 Presidential nomination rival Barack Obama’s pledged delegates and put a full-court-press on collecting Superdelegates if she fizzles out in the March 4th … Read the rest of this great post here [...]

]]> By: StockBoySF http://themoderatevoice.com/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/comment-page-1/#comment-119030 StockBoySF Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:37:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/#comment-119030 elrod, I understand what you're saying. I think she's struggling with coming to terms that she could lose. It was really interesting to watch her shift back and forth between barbs and graciousness.<br><br>To add another layer to the observation, during the LA debate she seemed kinder and gentler. But then the next day her campaign went on the attack mode.<br><br>So after watching her shifts last night I am interested to see if she will come out fighting in the next day or two.<br><br>I don't think these two views (fighting and graciousness) are exclusive of one another. I think her performance in the Austin debate was genuine, but if she comes out fighting, it's because of advice/influence from her campaign folks (which may or may not include Bill). elrod, I understand what you're saying. I think she's struggling with coming to terms that she could lose. It was really interesting to watch her shift back and forth between barbs and graciousness.

To add another layer to the observation, during the LA debate she seemed kinder and gentler. But then the next day her campaign went on the attack mode.

So after watching her shifts last night I am interested to see if she will come out fighting in the next day or two.

I don't think these two views (fighting and graciousness) are exclusive of one another. I think her performance in the Austin debate was genuine, but if she comes out fighting, it's because of advice/influence from her campaign folks (which may or may not include Bill).

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/comment-page-1/#comment-119029 kritt11 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:24:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/#comment-119029 Maybe, like Romney, she's evaluating the rise in Obama's momentum, and is steeling herself for the loss. It's encouraging that she may not stick at it until the bitter end and divide the party in two, by doing so. She may realize that he still might choose her for his Cabinet or as his VP. Bill may have counseled her that dividing the Democrats until August would hand McCain a victory in the general. Maybe, like Romney, she's evaluating the rise in Obama's momentum, and is steeling herself for the loss. It's encouraging that she may not stick at it until the bitter end and divide the party in two, by doing so. She may realize that he still might choose her for his Cabinet or as his VP. Bill may have counseled her that dividing the Democrats until August would hand McCain a victory in the general.

]]> By: elrod http://themoderatevoice.com/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/comment-page-1/#comment-118991 elrod Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:22:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/#comment-118991 I meant "visibly uncomfortable." I meant “visibly uncomfortable.”

]]> By: elrod http://themoderatevoice.com/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/comment-page-1/#comment-118950 elrod Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:21:31 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/#comment-118950 Here's what nobody has picked up on. After her failed Xerox zinger, she was visibly uncomfortably. Her voice started shaking. I'm not talking about the "angry Hillary" look - which is actually a strong look - but an embarrassed and panicked look. Obama dominated the debate for the next 20 minutes. Then, at the end, she seemed to be at peace again as she gave her last response. I think she realized during the 20 minutes of horror that it was over. And she came to peace with it at the end by showing grace. No, it isn't over yet. But she's now at peace with it if she goes down on March 4. Her comments today, backing away from the stridency of the last week, show the new dynamic. She'll act herself - comfortably - over the next couple weeks. It might help her regain some support, though it probably won't be enough. And she'll look at the delegate math after March 4 and head back to the Senate. Here's what nobody has picked up on. After her failed Xerox zinger, she was visibly uncomfortably. Her voice started shaking. I'm not talking about the “angry Hillary” look – which is actually a strong look – but an embarrassed and panicked look. Obama dominated the debate for the next 20 minutes. Then, at the end, she seemed to be at peace again as she gave her last response. I think she realized during the 20 minutes of horror that it was over. And she came to peace with it at the end by showing grace. No, it isn't over yet. But she's now at peace with it if she goes down on March 4. Her comments today, backing away from the stridency of the last week, show the new dynamic. She'll act herself – comfortably – over the next couple weeks. It might help her regain some support, though it probably won't be enough. And she'll look at the delegate math after March 4 and head back to the Senate.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/comment-page-1/#comment-118949 DLS Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:57:24 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/#comment-118949 The vultures in the media are rushing to join the bandwagon, or it may just be Obama bias that's showing. Also, proving or disproving a negative was used in a different way by some of the same people when it came to threatening to attack Iraq. The vultures in the media are rushing to join the bandwagon, or it may just be Obama bias that's showing. Also, proving or disproving a negative was used in a different way by some of the same people when it came to threatening to attack Iraq.

]]> By: U.s. Presidential Primary » Political Tea Leaves: Clinton Has Not Vowed To Continue Campaign Beyond March 4 http://themoderatevoice.com/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/comment-page-1/#comment-110734 U.s. Presidential Primary » Political Tea Leaves: Clinton Has Not Vowed To Continue Campaign Beyond March 4 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:42:58 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/#comment-110734 [...] The Moderate Voice - Domestic and international news analysis, irreverent comments, original reporti... wrote an interesting post today on Political Tea Leaves: Clinton Has Not Vowed To Continue Campaign Beyond March 4Here’s a quick excerpt Despite trial balloons that the Hillary Clinton campaign might go after 2008 Presidential nomination rival Barack Obama’s pledged delegates and put a full-court-press on collecting Superdelegates if she fizzles out in the March 4 primaries, Mrs. Clinton now has some political pundits abuzz with a new twist: she reportedly avoided vowing to keep her campaign going after March 4. And in the the world of “we’re going to the end!” politics that is a development that needs to be watched (she can a [...] [...] The Moderate Voice – Domestic and international news analysis, irreverent comments, original reporti… wrote an interesting post today on Political Tea Leaves: Clinton Has Not Vowed To Continue Campaign Beyond March 4Here’s a quick excerpt Despite trial balloons that the Hillary Clinton campaign might go after 2008 Presidential nomination rival Barack Obama’s pledged delegates and put a full-court-press on collecting Superdelegates if she fizzles out in the March 4 primaries, Mrs. Clinton now has some political pundits abuzz with a new twist: she reportedly avoided vowing to keep her campaign going after March 4. And in the the world of “we’re going to the end!” politics that is a development that needs to be watched (she can a [...]

]]> By: GeorgeSorwell http://themoderatevoice.com/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/comment-page-1/#comment-118913 GeorgeSorwell Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:37:34 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/#comment-118913 Actually, Hillary showed a great deal of class as well as sense at the end.<br><br>And I completely agree with Joe's comments about the cognitive poverty of conventional wisdom. Actually, Hillary showed a great deal of class as well as sense at the end.

And I completely agree with Joe's comments about the cognitive poverty of conventional wisdom.

]]> By: shaun http://themoderatevoice.com/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/comment-page-1/#comment-118871 shaun Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:07:31 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/17955/political-tea-leaves-clinton-has-not-vowed-to-continue-campaign-beyond-march-4/#comment-118871 Holy nightmare, Batman! Holy nightmare, Batman!

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