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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17949/fact-fiction-fickleness-and-fanaticism/comment-page-1/#comment-143272</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first paragraph isn&#039;t meant to be all inclusive: those are just the main functions that   I listed off of the top of my head. I think they provide insight into the way I view it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, bear in mind that if somehow conservatism made a comeback and people began to buy into the decentralization arguments, it would be important to make gradual changes to revert the funding responsibilities back to the states. In some cases, Reagan&#039;s policies moved too quickly and the states didn&#039;t always pick up the slack as they needed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first paragraph isn&#39;t meant to be all inclusive: those are just the main functions that   I listed off of the top of my head. I think they provide insight into the way I view it.</p>
<p>Also, bear in mind that if somehow conservatism made a comeback and people began to buy into the decentralization arguments, it would be important to make gradual changes to revert the funding responsibilities back to the states. In some cases, Reagan&#39;s policies moved too quickly and the states didn&#39;t always pick up the slack as they needed to.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17949/fact-fiction-fickleness-and-fanaticism/comment-page-1/#comment-143273</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first paragraph isn&#039;t meant to be all inclusive: those are just the main functions that   I listed off of the top of my head. I think they provide insight into the way I view it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, bear in mind that if somehow conservatism made a comeback and people began to buy into the decentralization arguments, it would be important to make gradual changes to revert the funding responsibilities back to the states. In some cases, Reagan&#039;s policies moved too quickly and the states didn&#039;t always pick up the slack as they needed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first paragraph isn&#39;t meant to be all inclusive: those are just the main functions that   I listed off of the top of my head. I think they provide insight into the way I view it.</p>
<p>Also, bear in mind that if somehow conservatism made a comeback and people began to buy into the decentralization arguments, it would be important to make gradual changes to revert the funding responsibilities back to the states. In some cases, Reagan&#39;s policies moved too quickly and the states didn&#39;t always pick up the slack as they needed to.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17949/fact-fiction-fickleness-and-fanaticism/comment-page-1/#comment-143270</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GS: I disagree with you that &#039;national interest&#039; is hard to define. It obviously includes national defense, and it would include the transportation infrastructure needs that cross state lines. It would also include maintenance of trade routes (ports). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In terms of making up for inequities at the local/community level, I think the state steps in to redistribute resources in that way- so getting back to that water treatment facility example, if a community can&#039;t afford to make the water potable for its citizens, then the state would pull from the pool of funds that it takes in from around the state to assist. I think school funding should be done that way as well, rather than being so tied to property taxes in districts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I see no reason for federal funding in education, welfare programs, or the million other things that DC has gotten involved in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GS: I disagree with you that &#39;national interest&#39; is hard to define. It obviously includes national defense, and it would include the transportation infrastructure needs that cross state lines. It would also include maintenance of trade routes (ports). </p>
<p>In terms of making up for inequities at the local/community level, I think the state steps in to redistribute resources in that way- so getting back to that water treatment facility example, if a community can&#39;t afford to make the water potable for its citizens, then the state would pull from the pool of funds that it takes in from around the state to assist. I think school funding should be done that way as well, rather than being so tied to property taxes in districts.</p>
<p>But I see no reason for federal funding in education, welfare programs, or the million other things that DC has gotten involved in.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17949/fact-fiction-fickleness-and-fanaticism/comment-page-1/#comment-143271</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GS: I disagree with you that &#039;national interest&#039; is hard to define. It obviously includes national defense, and it would include the transportation infrastructure needs that cross state lines. It would also include maintenance of trade routes (ports). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In terms of making up for inequities at the local/community level, I think the state steps in to redistribute resources in that way- so getting back to that water treatment facility example, if a community can&#039;t afford to make the water potable for its citizens, then the state would pull from the pool of funds that it takes in from around the state to assist. I think school funding should be done that way as well, rather than being so tied to property taxes in districts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I see no reason for federal funding in education, welfare programs, or the million other things that DC has gotten involved in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GS: I disagree with you that &#39;national interest&#39; is hard to define. It obviously includes national defense, and it would include the transportation infrastructure needs that cross state lines. It would also include maintenance of trade routes (ports). </p>
<p>In terms of making up for inequities at the local/community level, I think the state steps in to redistribute resources in that way- so getting back to that water treatment facility example, if a community can&#39;t afford to make the water potable for its citizens, then the state would pull from the pool of funds that it takes in from around the state to assist. I think school funding should be done that way as well, rather than being so tied to property taxes in districts.</p>
<p>But I see no reason for federal funding in education, welfare programs, or the million other things that DC has gotten involved in.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Stanley--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What do you think those basic concepts should be?</description>
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<p>What do you think those basic concepts should be?</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Stanley--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What do you think those basic concepts should be?</description>
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<p>What do you think those basic concepts should be?</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17949/fact-fiction-fickleness-and-fanaticism/comment-page-1/#comment-143266</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George: I understand that political moderates or independents don&#039;t make these judgments based on an ideology, but I find it hard to understand why we shouldn&#039;t have some basic concepts of what services should be provided by the various levels of government- and an agreement that when those functions are altered so that more and more is being done through the federal government, that we&#039;ve introduced higher levels of waste and inefficiency and lower levels of transparency and accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George: I understand that political moderates or independents don&#39;t make these judgments based on an ideology, but I find it hard to understand why we shouldn&#39;t have some basic concepts of what services should be provided by the various levels of government- and an agreement that when those functions are altered so that more and more is being done through the federal government, that we&#39;ve introduced higher levels of waste and inefficiency and lower levels of transparency and accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17949/fact-fiction-fickleness-and-fanaticism/comment-page-1/#comment-143267</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George: I understand that political moderates or independents don&#039;t make these judgments based on an ideology, but I find it hard to understand why we shouldn&#039;t have some basic concepts of what services should be provided by the various levels of government- and an agreement that when those functions are altered so that more and more is being done through the federal government, that we&#039;ve introduced higher levels of waste and inefficiency and lower levels of transparency and accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George: I understand that political moderates or independents don&#39;t make these judgments based on an ideology, but I find it hard to understand why we shouldn&#39;t have some basic concepts of what services should be provided by the various levels of government- and an agreement that when those functions are altered so that more and more is being done through the federal government, that we&#39;ve introduced higher levels of waste and inefficiency and lower levels of transparency and accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17949/fact-fiction-fickleness-and-fanaticism/comment-page-1/#comment-143264</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Stanley--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The term &quot;the national interest&quot; is vague. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not out here suggesting that funding should only come from local communities, then states, then--only if it suits &quot;the national interest&quot;--the federal government. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I have done is praise moderation and complain about corruption and inefficiency. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Somebody else brought up water treatment facilities. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think people who live in Louisiana ought to have potable water to drink even if people who live in New York pay the bill. I imagine people who live in New York derive sufficient benefits as citizens of the United States to make this trade-off fair. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would like the process of making these decisions to be more open. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I think the politicians who represent states that get more than they give ought to be clear about that kind of redistribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C Stanley&#8211;</p>
<p>The term &#8220;the national interest&#8221; is vague. </p>
<p>I&#39;m not out here suggesting that funding should only come from local communities, then states, then&#8211;only if it suits &#8220;the national interest&#8221;&#8211;the federal government. </p>
<p>What I have done is praise moderation and complain about corruption and inefficiency. </p>
<p>Somebody else brought up water treatment facilities. </p>
<p>I think people who live in Louisiana ought to have potable water to drink even if people who live in New York pay the bill. I imagine people who live in New York derive sufficient benefits as citizens of the United States to make this trade-off fair. </p>
<p>I would like the process of making these decisions to be more open. </p>
<p>And I think the politicians who represent states that get more than they give ought to be clear about that kind of redistribution.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17949/fact-fiction-fickleness-and-fanaticism/comment-page-1/#comment-143265</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Stanley--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The term &quot;the national interest&quot; is vague. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not out here suggesting that funding should only come from local communities, then states, then--only if it suits &quot;the national interest&quot;--the federal government. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I have done is praise moderation and complain about corruption and inefficiency. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Somebody else brought up water treatment facilities. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think people who live in Louisiana ought to have potable water to drink even if people who live in New York pay the bill. I imagine people who live in New York derive sufficient benefits as citizens of the United States to make this trade-off fair. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would like the process of making these decisions to be more open. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I think the politicians who represent states that get more than they give ought to be clear about that kind of redistribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C Stanley&#8211;</p>
<p>The term &#8220;the national interest&#8221; is vague. </p>
<p>I&#39;m not out here suggesting that funding should only come from local communities, then states, then&#8211;only if it suits &#8220;the national interest&#8221;&#8211;the federal government. </p>
<p>What I have done is praise moderation and complain about corruption and inefficiency. </p>
<p>Somebody else brought up water treatment facilities. </p>
<p>I think people who live in Louisiana ought to have potable water to drink even if people who live in New York pay the bill. I imagine people who live in New York derive sufficient benefits as citizens of the United States to make this trade-off fair. </p>
<p>I would like the process of making these decisions to be more open. </p>
<p>And I think the politicians who represent states that get more than they give ought to be clear about that kind of redistribution.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And no, it&#039;s not fair for the citizens of LA or any other state to ask for a return on their federal taxes in the form of local projects for which there is no national interest. If the citizens of the state paid less to the federal govt, then the states could raise their taxes accordingly to handle local needs, and if state and local governments do their job well they&#039;ll find ways to compete for more businesses to locate in their state so that the tax base will be able to handle the state and community needs (in other words, so that a larger tax revenue can be raised without resorting to high tax rates which choke off competitiveness.) Having the federal govt make up for shortfalls in state revenues only encourages bad governance on the state and local levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And no, it&#39;s not fair for the citizens of LA or any other state to ask for a return on their federal taxes in the form of local projects for which there is no national interest. If the citizens of the state paid less to the federal govt, then the states could raise their taxes accordingly to handle local needs, and if state and local governments do their job well they&#39;ll find ways to compete for more businesses to locate in their state so that the tax base will be able to handle the state and community needs (in other words, so that a larger tax revenue can be raised without resorting to high tax rates which choke off competitiveness.) Having the federal govt make up for shortfalls in state revenues only encourages bad governance on the state and local levels.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And no, it&#039;s not fair for the citizens of LA or any other state to ask for a return on their federal taxes in the form of local projects for which there is no national interest. If the citizens of the state paid less to the federal govt, then the states could raise their taxes accordingly to handle local needs, and if state and local governments do their job well they&#039;ll find ways to compete for more businesses to locate in their state so that the tax base will be able to handle the state and community needs (in other words, so that a larger tax revenue can be raised without resorting to high tax rates which choke off competitiveness.) Having the federal govt make up for shortfalls in state revenues only encourages bad governance on the state and local levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And no, it&#39;s not fair for the citizens of LA or any other state to ask for a return on their federal taxes in the form of local projects for which there is no national interest. If the citizens of the state paid less to the federal govt, then the states could raise their taxes accordingly to handle local needs, and if state and local governments do their job well they&#39;ll find ways to compete for more businesses to locate in their state so that the tax base will be able to handle the state and community needs (in other words, so that a larger tax revenue can be raised without resorting to high tax rates which choke off competitiveness.) Having the federal govt make up for shortfalls in state revenues only encourages bad governance on the state and local levels.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George: I live in GA, not LA, but I fail to see what that has to do with anything. Red states are more rural in general and less populated, which probably accounts for the bias toward more federal money going there (smaller tax base to handle the infrastructure needs locally.) That still doesn&#039;t mean that I agree that this is how it should be- I do think it&#039;s wrong for conservative politicians to ignore conservative principles in favor of political expediency- which is one reason I admire McCain&#039;s $0 record on pork spending.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve seen those stats before and I honestly haven&#039;t chased down the details, but it would be interesting to see greater detail on what the federal money goes back to the states for, exactly. I think you&#039;d have to know whether there was more military spending in the red states, for example, or more interstate highway funding in the wide expanses of  midwest/ western states. I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s the case, just pointing out that those are areas of spending that I wouldn&#039;t have a philosophical problem with.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t get your penultimate paragraph, in context of your overall argument. If you decry the inefficiency of sending money to DC and then bringing it back to a state (with the bureaucracy and regulation that goes along with that), and the lack of transparency in earmark spending, then why are you defending it? Or did I misunderstand your original position, and you&#039;re defending spending on local projects but want it to be done through the normal budgeting process (which still doesn&#039;t explain why you don&#039;t think the inefficiency is a problem that way?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George: I live in GA, not LA, but I fail to see what that has to do with anything. Red states are more rural in general and less populated, which probably accounts for the bias toward more federal money going there (smaller tax base to handle the infrastructure needs locally.) That still doesn&#39;t mean that I agree that this is how it should be- I do think it&#39;s wrong for conservative politicians to ignore conservative principles in favor of political expediency- which is one reason I admire McCain&#39;s $0 record on pork spending.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve seen those stats before and I honestly haven&#39;t chased down the details, but it would be interesting to see greater detail on what the federal money goes back to the states for, exactly. I think you&#39;d have to know whether there was more military spending in the red states, for example, or more interstate highway funding in the wide expanses of  midwest/ western states. I don&#39;t know if that&#39;s the case, just pointing out that those are areas of spending that I wouldn&#39;t have a philosophical problem with.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t get your penultimate paragraph, in context of your overall argument. If you decry the inefficiency of sending money to DC and then bringing it back to a state (with the bureaucracy and regulation that goes along with that), and the lack of transparency in earmark spending, then why are you defending it? Or did I misunderstand your original position, and you&#39;re defending spending on local projects but want it to be done through the normal budgeting process (which still doesn&#39;t explain why you don&#39;t think the inefficiency is a problem that way?)</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George: I live in GA, not LA, but I fail to see what that has to do with anything. Red states are more rural in general and less populated, which probably accounts for the bias toward more federal money going there (smaller tax base to handle the infrastructure needs locally.) That still doesn&#039;t mean that I agree that this is how it should be- I do think it&#039;s wrong for conservative politicians to ignore conservative principles in favor of political expediency- which is one reason I admire McCain&#039;s $0 record on pork spending.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve seen those stats before and I honestly haven&#039;t chased down the details, but it would be interesting to see greater detail on what the federal money goes back to the states for, exactly. I think you&#039;d have to know whether there was more military spending in the red states, for example, or more interstate highway funding in the wide expanses of  midwest/ western states. I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s the case, just pointing out that those are areas of spending that I wouldn&#039;t have a philosophical problem with.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t get your penultimate paragraph, in context of your overall argument. If you decry the inefficiency of sending money to DC and then bringing it back to a state (with the bureaucracy and regulation that goes along with that), and the lack of transparency in earmark spending, then why are you defending it? Or did I misunderstand your original position, and you&#039;re defending spending on local projects but want it to be done through the normal budgeting process (which still doesn&#039;t explain why you don&#039;t think the inefficiency is a problem that way?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George: I live in GA, not LA, but I fail to see what that has to do with anything. Red states are more rural in general and less populated, which probably accounts for the bias toward more federal money going there (smaller tax base to handle the infrastructure needs locally.) That still doesn&#39;t mean that I agree that this is how it should be- I do think it&#39;s wrong for conservative politicians to ignore conservative principles in favor of political expediency- which is one reason I admire McCain&#39;s $0 record on pork spending.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve seen those stats before and I honestly haven&#39;t chased down the details, but it would be interesting to see greater detail on what the federal money goes back to the states for, exactly. I think you&#39;d have to know whether there was more military spending in the red states, for example, or more interstate highway funding in the wide expanses of  midwest/ western states. I don&#39;t know if that&#39;s the case, just pointing out that those are areas of spending that I wouldn&#39;t have a philosophical problem with.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t get your penultimate paragraph, in context of your overall argument. If you decry the inefficiency of sending money to DC and then bringing it back to a state (with the bureaucracy and regulation that goes along with that), and the lack of transparency in earmark spending, then why are you defending it? Or did I misunderstand your original position, and you&#39;re defending spending on local projects but want it to be done through the normal budgeting process (which still doesn&#39;t explain why you don&#39;t think the inefficiency is a problem that way?)</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 06:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Stanley--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You may prefer a certain type of funding for whatever reason. But that&#039;s not really how it works. I believe you live in Louisiana. The residents of Louisiana, like all other residents of the United States, pay federal taxes. It&#039;s fair to ask what they get in return for it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just looking at the dollars, the residents of Louisiana do very nicely. In 2005, the most recent year I could find, they received $1.78 for every $1.00 they paid in federal taxes. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the same year, New Yorkers (like Hillary Clinton) only got back 79 cents for every dollar they paid. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html&quot;&gt;Source&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t necessarily have a problem with federal funding for &quot;community&quot; projects. What I have a problem with is the lack of transparency in the process of allocating federal funds. It&#039;s not just unfair (and maybe it&#039;s actually fair), it&#039;s not just corrupt (there&#039;s no transparency for a reason), it&#039;s inefficient! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And looking at the source, I see a lot of so-called red states benefit from the redistribution of federal taxes. All their politicians must be socialists!!</description>
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<p>You may prefer a certain type of funding for whatever reason. But that&#39;s not really how it works. I believe you live in Louisiana. The residents of Louisiana, like all other residents of the United States, pay federal taxes. It&#39;s fair to ask what they get in return for it. </p>
<p>Just looking at the dollars, the residents of Louisiana do very nicely. In 2005, the most recent year I could find, they received $1.78 for every $1.00 they paid in federal taxes. </p>
<p>In the same year, New Yorkers (like Hillary Clinton) only got back 79 cents for every dollar they paid. </p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html">Source</a>)</p>
<p>I don&#39;t necessarily have a problem with federal funding for &#8220;community&#8221; projects. What I have a problem with is the lack of transparency in the process of allocating federal funds. It&#39;s not just unfair (and maybe it&#39;s actually fair), it&#39;s not just corrupt (there&#39;s no transparency for a reason), it&#39;s inefficient! </p>
<p>And looking at the source, I see a lot of so-called red states benefit from the redistribution of federal taxes. All their politicians must be socialists!!</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 06:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Stanley--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You may prefer a certain type of funding for whatever reason. But that&#039;s not really how it works. I believe you live in Louisiana. The residents of Louisiana, like all other residents of the United States, pay federal taxes. It&#039;s fair to ask what they get in return for it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just looking at the dollars, the residents of Louisiana do very nicely. In 2005, the most recent year I could find, they received $1.78 for every $1.00 they paid in federal taxes. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the same year, New Yorkers (like Hillary Clinton) only got back 79 cents for every dollar they paid. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html&quot;&gt;Source&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t necessarily have a problem with federal funding for &quot;community&quot; projects. What I have a problem with is the lack of transparency in the process of allocating federal funds. It&#039;s not just unfair (and maybe it&#039;s actually fair), it&#039;s not just corrupt (there&#039;s no transparency for a reason), it&#039;s inefficient! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And looking at the source, I see a lot of so-called red states benefit from the redistribution of federal taxes. All their politicians must be socialists!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C Stanley&#8211;</p>
<p>You may prefer a certain type of funding for whatever reason. But that&#39;s not really how it works. I believe you live in Louisiana. The residents of Louisiana, like all other residents of the United States, pay federal taxes. It&#39;s fair to ask what they get in return for it. </p>
<p>Just looking at the dollars, the residents of Louisiana do very nicely. In 2005, the most recent year I could find, they received $1.78 for every $1.00 they paid in federal taxes. </p>
<p>In the same year, New Yorkers (like Hillary Clinton) only got back 79 cents for every dollar they paid. </p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html">Source</a>)</p>
<p>I don&#39;t necessarily have a problem with federal funding for &#8220;community&#8221; projects. What I have a problem with is the lack of transparency in the process of allocating federal funds. It&#39;s not just unfair (and maybe it&#39;s actually fair), it&#39;s not just corrupt (there&#39;s no transparency for a reason), it&#39;s inefficient! </p>
<p>And looking at the source, I see a lot of so-called red states benefit from the redistribution of federal taxes. All their politicians must be socialists!!</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: I agree with those sorts of things- that&#039;s why I said, unless there&#039;s a national interest at stake. But those projects get funded through other bills that are debated on the floor, and whose sponsors are clearly disclosed (which is often not the case with earmarks.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;George: I don&#039;t know enough about the oversight of municipal water treatment but I&#039;m pretty certain that those needs are addressed by the state if the community can&#039;t afford it. That&#039;s as far from the locality that I&#039;d want the funding to occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: I agree with those sorts of things- that&#39;s why I said, unless there&#39;s a national interest at stake. But those projects get funded through other bills that are debated on the floor, and whose sponsors are clearly disclosed (which is often not the case with earmarks.)</p>
<p>George: I don&#39;t know enough about the oversight of municipal water treatment but I&#39;m pretty certain that those needs are addressed by the state if the community can&#39;t afford it. That&#39;s as far from the locality that I&#39;d want the funding to occur.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: I agree with those sorts of things- that&#039;s why I said, unless there&#039;s a national interest at stake. But those projects get funded through other bills that are debated on the floor, and whose sponsors are clearly disclosed (which is often not the case with earmarks.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;George: I don&#039;t know enough about the oversight of municipal water treatment but I&#039;m pretty certain that those needs are addressed by the state if the community can&#039;t afford it. That&#039;s as far from the locality that I&#039;d want the funding to occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: I agree with those sorts of things- that&#39;s why I said, unless there&#39;s a national interest at stake. But those projects get funded through other bills that are debated on the floor, and whose sponsors are clearly disclosed (which is often not the case with earmarks.)</p>
<p>George: I don&#39;t know enough about the oversight of municipal water treatment but I&#39;m pretty certain that those needs are addressed by the state if the community can&#39;t afford it. That&#39;s as far from the locality that I&#39;d want the funding to occur.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulSilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CStanley, &lt;br&gt;Generally I would agree with you.  but there may be extenuating circumstances such as a Center for Disesase Control or technological facilities or nearby Military bases or NASA mission control or refining the national highway system or an alternative energy facility ... I would not be a fan of most cultural projects of primarily local interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CStanley, <br />Generally I would agree with you.  but there may be extenuating circumstances such as a Center for Disesase Control or technological facilities or nearby Military bases or NASA mission control or refining the national highway system or an alternative energy facility &#8230; I would not be a fan of most cultural projects of primarily local interest.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulSilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CStanley, &lt;br&gt;Generally I would agree with you.  but there may be extenuating circumstances such as a Center for Disesase Control or technological facilities or nearby Military bases or NASA mission control or refining the national highway system or an alternative energy facility ... I would not be a fan of most cultural projects of primarily local interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CStanley, <br />Generally I would agree with you.  but there may be extenuating circumstances such as a Center for Disesase Control or technological facilities or nearby Military bases or NASA mission control or refining the national highway system or an alternative energy facility &#8230; I would not be a fan of most cultural projects of primarily local interest.</p>
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