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Sabato’s Crystal Ball: DEMOCRATS AND THE POPULAR VOTE

Popular Vote? It’s in the eye of the beholder

As the closely fought Democratic presidential contest between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama moves deeper and deeper into the primary season, there is a growing sentiment that the nomination should go to the candidate that ultimately wins the popular vote.

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Fair enough. Ever since the current primary-dominated era of nominations began in the 1970s, every Democratic and Republican nomination has gone to the candidate who received the most votes in the presidential primaries. The last nominee who was not his party’s top primary vote-getter was Democrat George McGovern in 1972. And that was the last election in which less than half the states held primaries.

In recent decades, the aggregate nationwide vote has been won in decisive fashion by the ultimate nominee. But so far this year, that has not been the case with Clinton and Obama. There are different ways to count the Democratic popular vote. And while Obama comes out of the Feb. 19 voting leading in all of them, Clinton could still vault on top with a succession of strong showings in the big primary states that vote directly ahead.

Limit the tally to sanctioned Democratic primaries, and Obama presently enjoys a lead of more than 700,000 votes. Count the ballots from all primaries, including the non-binding votes in Florida and Michigan that Clinton dominated, and his advantage drops to barely 100,000 votes.

But add to this mix the reported vote for the candidates from caucus states, where Obama has had the upper hand, and his lead grows to more than 300,000 votes. And if one wishes to delete the unsanctioned Florida and Michigan results, and limit the tally to sanctioned primaries and reported caucus votes, Obama’s lead swells to more than 900,000 votes.

To compound the complexity, the actual presidential preferences of attendees was not tallied in some of the most highly-publicized caucus states, including Iowa, Nevada and Washington. There, the state parties presented the vote in terms of local delegates elected and did not conduct a primary-like tally of participants. If such a tally is attempted by extrapolation–multiplying the delegate percentages for Clinton and Obama times the voter turnout–the Illinois senator would add roughly another 100,000 votes to his total.

What then is the “popular vote”? It would probably take a judge wiser than Solomon to declare a hard and fast winner at the end of the primary season in June if different formulations of the popular vote produce different winners.

Democrats can hope it does not come to that, and they have history on their side. The pattern over the last two decades has been for candidates to trade victories over the first few weeks of the primary season before one candidate catches hold and scores a long string of wins that puts the nomination away. By the end of the process, there has been a clear winner and the popular vote is regarded as little more than an interesting curiosity.

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  • DLS
    Speaking of the popular vote: Do you realize that Obama might be charming enough as President to convince many to proceed with replacing the Electoral College with direct election of the President and Vice President (or just have the VP appointed by the President)?
  • StockBoySF
    DLS: I'd be happy to flush the electoral college down the toilet. I think the President pretty much effectively appoints the VP anyway. So I'd like to see the ticket contain both the Pres. and VP, just so we know who we're getting as VP upfront (as is). Though that didn't keep anyone (or many people) from voting for Bush/Cheney.
  • StockBoySF
    Holly, I think this is an important discussion to have, especially how it relates to the super delegates and the selection of the Dem. nominee. Thanks!

    As you've probably read my postings on here, I'm of the opinion that if Hillary or Obama have a clear lead in delegate votes then that person should get the Dem, nomination. The key here is the phrasr "clear lead". I don't know if 2% constitutes a clear lead or if 5% is the determining threshold (or some other figure).

    As an example of what I mean. Let's say that Hillary receives 100 delegate votes and Obama receives 101. Does this constitute a clear lead? Technically he is ahead, but the superdelegates can exercise their judgement in selecting a candidate. In this case I would say that Obama does not have a clear lead and if the superdelegates end up giving HIllary the nomination, I'm fine with that (I wouldn't cry foul).

    Whereas if Hillary received 100 delegate votes and Obama received 105, then I'm inclined to believe that the superdelegtes (as a whole) should follow the will of the people. Some supers will vote for the candidate their constituents choose, some will vote for the candidate because of promises, loyalty, etc. But overall Obama would receive enough support from the superdelegates to be nominated.

    If Hillary received 100 delegate votes, and Obama received 105, but the supers stepped in and gave Hillary the nomination, then I would call foul. A 5% lead is a "clear lead" as to who the Dems want as their nominee.

    At any rate, I don't know if 5% is the threshold, or if some other figure makes sense. I used 5% in the above example for illustration purposes only.

    So that's the important conversation we should have- what should that threshold figure be? Does 5% seem reasonable?

    To answer your question as to what constitutes the popular vote, I think this is fair:

    FL and MI should be disregarded. This is what both Hillary and Obama both agreed to beforehand.

    Primary votes- no squabble there.

    Caucus votes- there should be one method to determine this and the "extrapolation" that you mention seems to get us to some reasonable figure.

    At any rate, that's why this conversation is important. If Hillary does manage to remain more or less even with Obama, then the superdelegates will be able to tip the balance. On the one hand I want to recognize their own judgement, which they should use. But on the other hand, their judgement should not be "bought" so the nomination is taken away from the candidate the people clearly want. So, any ideas as to a percentage that a candidate needs to be ahead by to be considered a clear leader? Or am I being too simplistic? I'm trying to make it easy so it makes sense.

    Thanks again!
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