Comments on: The Politico: Hillary Clinton Campaign Targets Obama’s PLEDGED Delegates (UPDATED)

By: You Have Got To Be Kidding » Comments from Left Field

You Have Got To Be Kidding » Comments from Left Field — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:52:49 +0000

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By: Hillary Clinton and the Pledged Delegates « Liberty Street

Hillary Clinton and the Pledged Delegates « Liberty Street — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:53:47 +0000

[...] Obama gave Clinton that “clarity” — and then some (via Joe Gandelman): “As it becomes increasingly clear that Senator Clinton may not be able to secure the nomination [...]

By: Slamfu

Slamfu — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:21:40 +0000

Yanno Hillary is supposed to be the experienced one but it seems to me all the flaps in the democratic race have come from her camp.

By: Slamfu

Slamfu — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:21:40 +0000

Yanno Hillary is supposed to be the experienced one but it seems to me all the flaps in the democratic race have come from her camp.

By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:26:59 +0000

I just saw the update and saw this by Singer (Hillary), "We have not, are not and will not pursue the pledged delegates of Barack Obama. It’s now time for the Obama campaign to be clear about their intentions.”

Well, I don't think Obama was ever charged with contemplating taking HIll's pledged delegates so I don't think it's necessary for him to respond.

But if there is an allegation against him, I hope Obama does respond. The closest allegation is Singer saying that he assumes that Obama is going after Hillary's pledged delegates. If the Hillary campaign can think that about the Obama campaign, then it's certainly something that the Hillary campaign has thought of doing.

By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:26:59 +0000

By: DLS

DLS — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:06:02 +0000

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02...

By: DLS

DLS — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:06:02 +0000

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02...

By: Slamfu

Slamfu — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:52:10 +0000

If for whatever reason the Dems use either superdelegates or pledged ones to give Clinton the nomination when the popular votes didn't go that way, McCain is going to wreck Clinton in the general election as all the moderates run to his camp.

By: cosmoetica

cosmoetica — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:07:19 +0000

It's funny how Holly, Jill, and Damozel constantly post and comment on the bad and stupid things Hill does, and their only replies are something along, well HE'D DO IT, TOO!

By: DLS

DLS — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:01:30 +0000

I want a brawl to erupt in the convention, and riots outside it if the supers try to fix some kind of deal the voters can't stand. It's almost enough to make the rest of us create pictures of those angry anti-establishment lefties with a US patrotic motif.

The Battle of Lexington XXXXXXXXX Denver

By: PaulSilver

PaulSilver — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:40:12 +0000

As much as I would prefer that everyone resolve their differences in a pleasant and friendly manner, sometimes the best way to resolve a conflict is to fight it out.
“What doesn't kill us makes us stronger” may be the appropriate path for the winner of the Democratic nomination, then the presidency and ultimately with the competitors of modern liberal democracy.

By: Davebo

Davebo — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:15:15 +0000

I'm certain that the Obama campaign is or will be doing the same darn thing.

And if they do, I'll be among the first to condemn them for it. As pointed out, this isn't about Superdelegates who aren't apportioned by the popular vote.

And frankly, I don't hear any dissapointment in your comments on this story. I can assure you, I would be extremely dissapointed if Obama tried to thwart the will of the voters. And I would be extremely vocal about that dissapointement.

Then again, the Clinton campaign is now claiming The Politico made this story up out of whole cloth. We'll see how they respond.

By: Holly_in_Cincinnati

Holly_in_Cincinnati — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:54:41 +0000

I'm certain that the Obama campaign is or will be doing the same darn thing.

By: Polimom Says » The Democrats and their pathetic “rules”

Polimom Says » The Democrats and their pathetic “rules” — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:46:29 +0000

[...] TPM), this time saying they didn’t say what Roger Simon says they said. Or something. I agree with Joe (and Capt. Ed) — they tried to float one of those new-and-improved lead [...]

By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:40:57 +0000

Holly, the delegates in question are the pledged delegates allocated based on the primary/caucus votes. Nothing to do with superdelegates (pledged or otherwise).

By: U.s. Presidential Primary » The Politico: Hillary Clinton Campaign Targets Obama’s PLEDGED Delegates

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:50:12 +0000

[...] The Moderate Voice – Domestic and international news analysis, irreverent comments, original reporti… wrote an interesting post today on The Politico: Hillary Clinton Campaign Targets Obamaâ??s PLEDGED DelegatesHere’s a quick excerptThe Politico: Hillary Clinton Campaign Targets Obama’s PLEDGED Delegates February 19th, 2008 by JOE GANDELMAN Question: has the Democratic party EVER seen anything like this? The Politico: Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign intends to go after delegates whom Barack Obama has already won in the caucuses and primaries if she needs them to win the nomination. This strategy was confirmed to me by a high-ranking Clinton official on Monday. And I am not talking about superdelegates, those 7 [...]

By: Polimom

Polimom — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:33:37 +0000

Because it is the DNC's rules that allow Hillary to even contemplate such a repulsive approach, I'm feeling uncomfortable just now with supporting any candidate from the Democrats. And I say that as an Obama supporter.

By: Holly_in_Cincinnati

Holly_in_Cincinnati — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:27:53 +0000

Isn't the Obama campaign doing the same thing?

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/02/19/su...

Superdelegate Support Scrutinized

An Associated Press review of superdelegates and who they are supporting for president “turned up three dozen cases in which they hold positions contrary to the expressed will of their own constituents.”

There are 21 cases of superdelegates supporting Sen. Hillary Clinton even though their districts or states voted for Obama. There are 14 instances where the superdelegate supports Obama when their constituents support Clinton.

The review also shows “33 elected officials who are superdelegates and publicly uncommitted in the presidential race, even though their constituents went for Obama. Another 24 are neutral despite their voters siding with Clinton.”

By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:02:14 +0000

I'm not sure what's new here, other than the specific tactic. We all know that Hillary will do anything, including dividing the Democratic Party, to become president.

It's a shame- when Obama first announced his candidacy I considered her to be my second choice. And even though I have since decided I can not vote for her because of her tactics (and certain of her recent votes which support Bush's policies) I still go to her web site and see that she has a great background and is to be admired for what she has accomplished.

But then these horrendous tactics (and I remember her recent votes) and any admiration I have to look past her faults all go out the window.

This is exactly how she will govern in DC and this is exactly what we do not need. I've said before that while many of her policies are different than Bush's she uses the same secretive, dirty tactics as he does because the Bush/Clinton rule in DC has created and honed them. It's all she knows on how to operate.