McCain’s Decent Conservatism

I did find his Obama references to be funny "Fired Up and Ready to Go?" That was cute.

His line about hope being a platitude is not likely to be a winner in the general election. Hillary has tried to nail Obama on his refusal to jump into specifics in his stump speech and hasn't knocked him off his stride. I doubt McCain will either. What's more, Americans like that hope talk. McCain might turn himself into a bitter crank - a Bob Dole - if he's not careful with this line.

McCain (though for some reason, the Republican Party can't seem to get its head around it) is the best possible outcome for them this year. Easily their best chance to snatch a victory from defeat's jaws.

Unfortunately (for their November prospects) he has so damaged himself to secure the nomination (and still, they demand more blood from him) that he has wounded himself, perhaps mortally, in the general. Ten-thousand years in Iraq?! Bomb-bomb-bomb Iran?! "Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war?!" And on and on (yeah, I know this cuts both ways, but still...) And don't talk to me about Rezco, or Hugh Rodham for that matter. There's always the "Keating 5" and on and on to talk about.

He's a good man whom I've held some respect for in the past (Hell, I've personally spoken to him a few times, and own an autographed copy of "Faith of my Fathers"). I don't mean to cross any lines here, but what he's had to endure to kowtow to the "base" in earning the nomination seems, in its own way, as bad as the torture of the VC. I mean, at least they were never able to force him to sell his soul to them over and over again while the video tape recorded it all for the entertainment and public critique of his torturers.

Nice post.

Nothing wrong with kowtowing to the base so long as the base you're kowtowing to is the base you claim to represent. There's some ambiguity here concerning McCain. Where does his allegiance truly lie. Many conservatives aren't sure. He hasn't exactly been a classical conservative and the party has largely betrayed those ideals. That betrayal goes by the name of neoconservativism. Every four years (except in the case of Bush) we somehow all lose are friggin minds and think that this nominee, candidate, whatever.....will be the One. Afterward we light a cigarette and wonder what the hell happened. Don't be surprised when nothing changes if Obama or Hillary is elected. Don't be surprised when McCain can't fix the economy (Presidents don't possess that kind of power) or deliver on other promises he has made. It's just the party spirit which has rendered us temporarily O.O.O. until reality kicks in. For now, I'll be watching.

"He is willing to listen to those who disagree with him."

I heard his speech too and it was interesting. What he first said was that he would make his case for his plans when in office. Then he went on to say that he would listen to others. I think he only said he would listen to others to sound reasonable, that he has taken a lesson from Bush's criticism. I came away with the feeling that he has plans and will push them through. I think good evidence of this is his comment on staying in Iraq for 100 years. He was very emphatic about that and he doesn't show any inkling of willing to listen to other plans. Most Americans want out of Iraq, so how can McCain say he will listen to others, when he won't budge from his own position.

Bottom line, McCain came across the same way as Bush does when Bush says he wants to work with others. It sounds good, but he doesn't mean it.

McCain didn't need to talk about hot button issues in this speech (and it would have only cost him votes if he had). McCain was wise to stick with statements that the broadest possible cross-section of Republicans can agree with. It was a victory speech and he used the time well. Because he avoided hot button issues, he seems more reasonable.

McCain's speech was interesting and a generally good message, it's just that his positions (and I'm mostly thinking of Iraq) don't support his rhetoric.

BTW: I think Obama and Hillary (and McCain) were off their game tonight with their speeches. The speeches weren't bad, but they've all done better in the past. They all seemed tired (and I would be too). Just an observation, not a criticism.

McCain has zero chance to win the presidency unless the media catches Senator Obama is bed with a live boy or a dead girl.

The real question is how much positive affect the Democrats will get down ticket from Senator Obama. The Democrats have a real chance of getting to 60 seats in the Senate and making the Republican Party irrelevant to politics.

Also, will an Obama Administration use mainly retreads from the Clinton Administration for political appointments, will there be a Chicago mafia, or will it be the return of the Ivy leaguers?

I don't know what an Obama Administration will look like, but I expect it to be filled with both Dems and Reps. If Obama truly wants to involve the whole country and bring us together, his administration must have Reps. If it does have Reps., then when he goes to Congress with his policies (maybe not all policies) the Reps. in congress will have a more difficult time of casting his proposals as partisan.

You have a point, SD, in that the Presidential race is obscuring the races for other seats in Washington as well as in the state governments. A number of GOP members of Congress are retiring this year, if I recall correctly. The door is wide open to the Democrats.

I cannot think of a single Republican who could be appointed to a position in an Obama Administration other than in a token position such as a pointless cabinet position.

If Senator Obama follows the Clinton model, his staffers will basically ignore the cabinet and departments and do things on their own. Considering how close Senator Obama plays it to the vest, I cannot believe he could bring in more than a few trusted advisors.

Nice post Dennis, glad to see not all moderate R's have been taken in by the cult of Obama. This my not be the best election to try to get a more moderate Republican in but it's the best shot we got. If McCain does lose (which I know is a real possibility against either Dem) the right wing is going to put the loss on moderates.

I think it would be good to remember that on these very same pages a few months ago everyone here was writing McCain's campaign obituary and, either gladly or sadly, remarking on HRC's insurmountable lead. It just goes to show things change and will continue to do so.

What I like about McCain recently is his focus on improving his speaking and speeches. To the extent he can just get a day to day sound bites established as a reasonable sounding person........and bite his tongue whenever he is feeling inclined to give one of those glib one-liners.......so that we don't have to listen to stockboy repeating out of context answers for the next 9 months........ that will be a satisfactory accomplishment for the time being. He isn't going to make converts out of too many TMV'ers, but maybe he will out of the genuine moderate/swing voters out there.

The experience gap is real and it stands to reason that a whole lot of people will give it high credence.

So what? Lo those many months ago is campaign was on the rocks, he was firing folks, running out of money. All indicators had him out. But I'm glad the GOP has him up there now, he was the best of the lot and for many of the reasons stated in this article. He is a reasonable conservative, and a man who understands leadership and consequences. The traits that will put him far above his predecessor should McCain get the oval office.

Reasonable conservative = OK with Big Government? (If McCain were elected, let's see if his words match his deeds this time. Not only does he need to end earmarks, but ne needs to see to it that Congress abolishes all mandatory spending, requiring members of Congress to vote on all spending once more rather than lie to us and say their hands are tied, there's nothing they can do about a vast amount of spending that currently avoids being part of a bill and the subject of a vote. Downsizing the federal government and disposing of excess assets, such as a lot of locked-up land in the West, are in order, too. No, McCain is not going to to this -- nor will any contemporary DC GOP politician -- any more than McCain will reverse himself and fully respect the First Amendment. McCain is indeed a compromise, in more than one meaning conveyed by that word.)

It depends on what you see as "reasonable" in general, as well.

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casualobserver- sorry if some of my posts on McCain come across as me repeating out of context answers he gives. I looked at my posts under this particular wider post and I don't believe I took anything out of context. I did give an observation on what he said and how I thought there were contradictory statements and I went on to explain why I didn't trust what he said. I think I try to see all points, but I'm also very opinionated. I also know that many posts on here have influenced my thinking. So I'm sorry if it seems I repeat out of context answers and I'll keep an eye on it more closely in the future. Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully my future posts will be more worthwhile. Though I do feel passionately about some things so I can't promise to be totally sensible at times.

Also, not everyone on here a few months ago was writing McCain's obituary just like not everyone on here was waiting for Hillary's inevitable coronation.