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Updating the GOP

Cal Thomas writes in Redefining Conservatism that the GOP needs to update their message. He writes that even Ronald Reagan wasn’t a conservative by todays standards. He appointed moderate Judges, raised some taxes, and didn’t go to Church.

…Contemporary conservatism has mostly been about saying “no” to the liberal agenda. Suppose conservatives instead begin to circumvent liberals by applying better ideas to achieve ends liberals and conservatives claim to seek?

…Frum proposes an agenda that uses conservative principles to actually solve, rather than just talk about, serious problems. He wants universally available health insurance, but offered through the private sector; lower taxes to encourage savings and investment, but higher taxes on energy and pollution to promote conservation; a conservative environmentalism that promotes nuclear power to reduce our need for oil and coal (this would satisfy the Left’s misguided belief in “global warming,” while simultaneously pleasing the Right by freeing us from dependence on foreign oil); federal policies to encourage larger families; major reductions in unskilled immigration; a campaign for prison reform and a campaign against obesity; higher ethical standards inside the conservative movement and Republican Party; and a renewed commitment to expand and rebuild the armed forces in order to crush terrorism and prepare for the coming challenge from China.

I would add a micro-loan program to help the poor out of poverty, rather than more government programs that subsidize the poor in their poverty and offer no hope for the future.

…If conservatives really want to win, they will adopt new ideas based on old principles. Conservatives are in danger of losing the coming election and future ones because they have not reinvented themselves for a new era.

  • Amanda
    You know, he lost me at "left's misguided belief in global warming." How about a "general scientific consensus that global warming exists, is at least exacerbated by human activity, and is in fact a serious problem that will affect everyone regardless of political affiliation?" I have no problem whatsoever with having a serious conversation about issues and looking at various options for solving them, no matter who offers the solutions. But if the conservative answer to global warming is to condescendingly pat liberals on the head for their naive beliefs (which is rather hypocritical) and invest in nuclear power which comes with a whole host of problems, then they aren't really trying to solve the problem. They're just shifting the argument.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    I have to agree with Amanda and note that it's amusing coming from someone who expresses a completely blind faith in the "free market" and private sector to solve problems that it has never even come close to doing anything about in the past. There is no such thing as truly full employment. Real economists know this yet Republican economists condemn the idea of effective government safety nets that would account for this along with their fellow ideologues.
  • Amanda
    I also take issue with the idea of crushing terrorism through an expanded military. Terrorism is an ideological battle even moreso than a military fight. We can't force those who hate us to change their minds at gunpoint any more than we could do it at swordpoint 1000 years ago. Expanding our military involvement in the Middle East is not going to make us safer. Make the armed forces more efficient, more specialized. Maybe even expand in size and the scope of their duties. But it's not worth it if we don't utilize our strength intelligently.

    I'm also curious as to why we should be promoting larger families. And why should the government have any say in how many children a person has? Isn't that sort of government intrusion on private lives exactly what conservatives claim to be against?
  • DLS
    Well, the Left frequently overreacts and reacts wrongly. The frequent hysteria over global warming and could-be apocalypse is openly stupid; it is not surprisingly an excuse ("rationalization" isn't merited) for interventionism to the point of collectivist totalitarianism. Better people say NO to this. What's odd about Thomas is not only that he relies on Frum (a nicer, touchy-feel-ier conservatism) but his idea of micro-loans is nothing other than another federal government program. The other things advocated that you decry are in fact correct and good; what's bad are idiocies such as an anti-obesity program, for example (this is no legitimate business of the federal government or any government whatsoever). In other words, Thomas is moving over to Frum's dippy big-government-is-okay-as-long-as-the-"right"-objectives-are-pursued-by-it Republicanism. I.e., Democrats Lite or Dems Twisted.

    This is not what any intelligent person would want as an alternative, which addresses instead what Thomas has stated from the beginning: saying "No" to what's wrong (and to children of all ages who want what's wrong). Conservativism has an inherent negativist as well as often-pessimistic nature and what's needed, and what the GOP has failed to accomplish so far, is to remain against what's wrong, but present some positive and positivist offerings to people (more freedom; economic growth, real, not make-work, job growth; security from terrorist vermin and our other enemies) to get them to take the GOP seriously and consider them more often as a real alternative to the Democrats. They have to become substantially different from the Democratic Party first, though.
  • PaulSilver
    DLS,
    I sometimes share your skepticism but I am always surprised by your complete indifference to wanting to be persuasive by ridiculing those who have a different point of view than yours.

    ...Left frequently overreacts and reacts wrongly.
    ...The frequent hysteria over global warming and could-be apocalypse is openly stupid
    ...idiocies such as an anti-obesity program,
    ...This is not what any intelligent person would want as an alternative
  • casualobserver
    While it is always a useful exercise to contruct conservative policies in a forum of non-conservatives, regardless, Frum's and Thomas' timing is off.

    The practical window for this was at least 6 months ago and won't logically reopen for another 10.

    With the possible exception of healthcare, I believe this election will be decided by Iraq and the economy. McCain has about 20 campaign speeches on healthcare already, so now is not the time to reinvent his candidacy. The other 2, ironically, will be more decided by time and events than by what the candidates have to say about these.
  • DLS
    Mr. Silver, I am good at defending myself and exposing the frequent wrongful attacks on those who don't follow the Liberal Party Line. Just because you are a liberal who doesn't do it doesn't mean everyone else on the Left doesn't. Certainly I can back off the throttle at bit if that's what you might prefer.
  • DLS
    (a bit -- maybe more)
  • DLS
    "With the possible exception of healthcare, I believe this election will be decided by Iraq and the economy."

    Agreed. And as it has been shown elsewhere, health care isn't even that big right now; the economy is #1 and Iraq #2 above the other issues. Health care rises and falls. If a lot of people begin to lose their jobs and health benefits that go with those jobs, we may see health care rise again.
  • DLS
    Incidentally, even if McCain is elected, it's a change from the status quo.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/898a4550-d90d-11dc-8b...
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Paul,

    You read his post. He does not seek to persuade. He seeks only to insult any who don't agree with him and ascribe to them only the worst possible motivations. Then he attempts to deny his appropriate place on the political spectrum. Can anyone really respect someone so utterly and constantly insulting of only one side of the political debate who then decides to claim to not be on "the other side"? Sorry, I don't buy any of it.
  • Slamfu
    "I also take issue with the idea of crushing terrorism through an expanded military. Terrorism is an ideological battle even moreso than a military fight."

    I also take issue with how we are conducting the GWOT. The Bush administration has it all wrong in trying to douse the terrorist networks with the military in the first place. Terrorist grps are not armies per se, they are networks of saboteurs. In operation, at least outside of their home countries, they work much more like organized crime than anythign else and thats how they need to be fought. I.e - the FBI, the CIA, and most importantly by working with their sister organizations in our allied counties. Frozen assets, arrests, plea bargains to get the higher ups and throw suspicion around the organization, thats how they need to be fought. Fight espionage with espionage.

    So far our military has done nothing but fertilize the ground from which terrorists sprout like weeks. Its not that fault of our military that al-queda and other terrorist grps are still so functional, but the fact they are an operation the military isn't meant to fight. Like trying to fix a leaky pipe by smashing it with a hammer.
  • DLS
    Then he attempts to deny his appropriate place on the political spectrum.

    This, from someonewho has called me "far right" [sic] if I object to liberal excess, and engaged in other hype and other fantasy (such as the plutocracy versus the peasantry)?

    [rolling eyes]
  • DLS
    "Like trying to fix a leaky pipe by smashing it with a hammer."

    More like not using a large enough wrench or other tools because we were too cheap or inept.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    It's not my fault the truth hurts you so much, DLS.


    The frequent hysteria over global warming and could-be apocalypse is openly stupid; it is not surprisingly an excuse ("rationalization" isn't merited) for interventionism to the point of collectivist totalitarianism.


    That quote comes from nowhere except the political right wing. I'm tired of lies and misrepresentation.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Yeah, those global warming worries are pure hysteria.
  • Don Quijote
    Conservatives must demonstrate to voters their ideas do.

    They do! The poor are poorer, the middle class more worried about their standard of living and that of their children and the wealthy are almost as wealthy as they were during the Gilded Age.
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