Comments on: Poll: McCain And Obama Have Whopping Leads In Virginia

By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:30:13 +0000

Yeah, the Reps. are not too happy with their presumptive nominee- but that would be the case regardless of which Rep. from their big field eventually might have become the nominee. McCain may be Dem Lite (and appeals to independents for those views), but he's also Bush re-warmed on the Iraq war issue, and the supra-majority of Americans want us out of Iraq sometime soon (not in 100 years or even 5).

Of all the Rep. candidates McCain will get more votes than any of the others simply because there are more moderates (and independents) than religious right folks. And if a moderate or independent votes for McCain, that's one less vote for the Dems.

If the Reps. want to continue as a major party they have to stop pandering to the religious right. The Dems may have a vocal left, but the Dems don't pander to their extreme left like the Reps. do to their extreme right.

By: DLS

DLS — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:56:11 +0000

Last remark for now, letting others have their turns — my rad-lib friend in DC metro (she is in Maryland) will be voting and really is excited about it. She was a fan of Kucinich and Edwards and is not sure yet who she'll support, Obama or Clinton. What I will do if Dunce DLS remembers to do it, is to ask her about her observations at the polling place (she's extremely intelligent and has sharp senses and attention to detail).

By: DLS

DLS — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:53:43 +0000

Obama is a real person, rather than just a symbolic “None Of The Above” vote, who has positive appeal to many. Already this year we have seen “change.”

By: DLS

DLS — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:52:05 +0000

The Dem voter turnout is enormous this year. Enormous. At least one conservative site I've looked at lately for comments by readers has stated this observation. It's in several news stories and other stories about the elections held so far — not enough ballots, overflow crowds and long lines, etc. — for the Dem, not the GOP, elections. Don't forget that while Obama is this year's star, the turnout for Clinton is big, too. Dem voters want that White House after eight years of Bush-Cheney. Meanwhile, the GOP is faltering and has given us a default lackluster candidate (and oft Dem Lite) as the GOP choice. His only chance to win (McCain) is if Clinton is nominated. Even then it is just a chance; I suspect Clinton would still prevail over Bush, particularly if the media chime louder about McCain being “another Bush, more of the same.” I don't believe McCain has a chance against Obama.

I wouldn't even discount the chance that some Republicans are voting for Obama to help thwart Clinton; i.e., I believe many Obama-voting Republicans are pro-Obama more than they are anti-Clinton.

By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:11:22 +0000

DLS, thanks for the link and some of those comments were pretty good- particularly the observation (I haven't verified it yet) that more people are voting for Obama than all the Republicans combined. That is an excellent point to consider when thinking about the general election. If there were equal numbers of people voting in the Democratic and Republican contests, that would be one thing and there could be an argument made that Hillary or Obama has the better chance of beating McCain in the primary. But when so many people are voting in the Democratic contest (and even Republicans, where they can vote in a Democratic contest) and those people are voting by far larger percentages for Obama, then I think we pretty much know which Dem has the better against McCain. I'll have to research the number of votes each candidate has.

By: DLS

DLS — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:19:34 +0000

Good reader remarks about Obama vs. Clinton here.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_...

By: shika_one

shika_one — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:52:06 +0000

As it stands now, Obama could win the primaries but lose the nomination due to being out politicked on superdelegates.

Democracy at work I guess.