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Insanity in the Heartland

As reported in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and Washington Post, the story of last night’s shooting at a Kirkwood, Mo., city council meeting struck terribly close to home for me.

I currently live about 14 miles north and west of Kirkwood, a suburban St. Louis community. Twenty years ago, I worked for the Suburban Journals of St. Louis, covering municipal meetings in other locations. At last night’s shooting, a reporter from the Journals sustained a minor injury:

Dave Bundy, the editorial director for the Suburban Journals, said that one of the newspaper’s reporters, Todd Smith, was injured in the attack.

“We don’t know if it was a ricochet or what, but it hit him in the hand and shattered a bone or two,” said Bundy, who spoke with Smith in the emergency room at St. John’s. Smith was in satisfactory condition Friday morning.

All things considered, Smith was one of the lucky ones. Six others including the assailant, Charles Lee “Cookie” Thornton, were killed. But a random step to the left or right might have produced a different outcome for Smith or the other “lucky ones” attending. Consider this personal account from the Post-Dispatch’s reporter at the meeting:

I looked up and saw Officer (Tom) Ballman shot in the head and then Mr. (Kenneth) Yost shot in the head, too. Marty and I crawled under our chairs. I could hear Mr. Yost trying to breathe, heavily.

There was a lot of yelling going on, it was mostly Cookie.

It was loud, very loud. He was shouting ‘I’ve got a gun,’ and he started shooting people.

The gunshots were very loud. I could see Mr. Yost lying on the floor. I was watching him die. It was just dreadful.

Every reporter who currently covers or once covered municipal meetings knows several things about them: They’re long, drawn out, incredibly dry affairs. The rare drama typically involves nothing more significant than a personality conflict between one or more of the public officials present. By and large, the audience is comprised of older citizens, who sit politely in their seats, quietly honoring their sense of civic duty. And there’s always at least one confrontational soul who makes long, rambling, often spirited and sometimes pointed (if not outright rude) speeches during the public comments section of the meetings.

You’re annoyed by those confrontational souls, but you never expect one of them to start shooting. Last night, Cookie Thornton did. And try as I might to not think about his counterparts at the meetings I attended 20 years ago, I couldn’t avoid the memories, the “what ifs,” and the inevitable shudder that followed.

My thoughts and prayers go out to all of those who attended last night’s meeting and to the families of those who were killed.

  • DLS
    I shuddered when I heard about this. It's in the part of town (STL County, from there on up through U. City) where I'd like to return someday. Ugh. I've been through that place numerous times. It's so weird when it happens somewhere you're familiar with.

    (I've had vehicles stolen and one time a vehicle of mine was stolen by a gang who used it in a drive-by shooting, in Los Angeles metro. A 14- and 16-year-old were killed.)
  • Rudi
    Let's not forget the natural insanity in a nearby area. (h/t Newhoggers). MonkeyFister is trying to help those affected by the numerous tornadoes in the South.
  • Pete Abel
    DLS -- It's truly terrifying sometimes, how closely interconnected we all are. Reminds me of that best-picture winner from a couple years ago, "Crash."
  • PaulSilver
    I don't grasp why our country isn't outgrowing our need for omnipresent guns.

    Is the answer really that all of those victims should have been armed to protect themselves?
  • DLS
    We don't have a "need" for omnipresent guns. And guns are not demonic. None of mine are, anyway.

    If you want gun control, change the Constitution then seek reasonable laws. Not "common-sense gun safety laws" (overbearing over-restrictive, even tyrannical gun control laws) but truly sensible laws. There are likely to be many in the suburbs as well as in the inner cities in favor of gun control, particularly handgun control or concealed-weapon control.
  • DLS
    Gun control is not a process of maturity. Don't engage in lefty euphemism or conceit.
  • DLS
    "It's truly terrifying sometimes, how closely interconnected we all are."

    It's especially noteworthy to me here in the East, where I've lived for many years now (since 1998 -- tenth anniversary is next month -- remember the Chinese missile "tests" near Taiwan?). Do you remember discussions on and after 9/11? People either directly or through not more than two or three levels of indirection at least one or more persons who were killed that day where I was working at the time.
  • DLS
    "Is the answer really that all of those victims should have been armed to protect themselves?"

    No. Who's to say all of them -- or more to the point, all of society, potential victims -- is any more competent than the shooter this time? "An armed society is a polite society" is an incomplete picture. It's a tense and more-dangerous society as well.

    A way to look at gun control logically is to view it the same way you would view WMD and delivery-system proliferation. Not only should the bad ones not have these things -- they cannot be trusted and they are undeserving -- but the more of them in the hands of the worse characters only increases the chances of disaster. (Would we want every Middle Eastern nation to be missile- and nuclear-armed? After destroying Israel they would be destroying each other, maybe even before attacking Israel.)
  • DLS
    (Taiwan tests were in 1996; I was in PHX from 1996-1998, then headed east)
  • Jammer
    I am a St. Louis resident too. I must say that gun control is not the way to approach the analysis of this disaster. Our problem is not guns, it is the incredibly violent society we live in. We spend a great deal of time censoring sex, and no time at all reducing the violence our society is exposed to. From movies, to TV shows, to video games, bloody awful violence is celebrated. We diss people like Tipper Gore and Hillery Clinton for making an issue out of this, but they are right and have been for a long time. It starts with good parenting to keep young children away from gratuitous violence, but this is a societal problem that must be addressed directly. Censor the violence. Encourage the sex. That will give you a less violent society.
  • DLS
    Make love, not war!
  • Slamfu
    So whats the story on the shooter? This is going to sound awful, but I'm betting he had a legitimate grievance with the city and flipped out. I've been screwed over by corrupt officials before, and let me tell you after you realize you have no recourse against the well connected, this particular fantasy will pop up in your head. I can't believe anyone would actually do it though.

    Then again maybe he was just naturally crazy.
  • DLS
  • Slamfu
    Right then, certified nutjob it is.
  • DLS
    I'll be in STL metro not this weekend but next weekend and I may head through there (there were a couple of stores there I used to patronize when I lived in U. City) and see if anyone left flowers by the city buildings, etc. Maybe by then this story will be in the lefty-leaning free weekly (Riverfront Times or RFT).
  • Don Quijote
    No surprises here. Public policy has been to let any jack-ass with a pulse get their hands on guns, here are the expected results.

    It is my most sincere hope that all the people who got their asses shot are NRA members and Republicans who have spent the last thirty years preventing any sort of gun regulation.
  • DLS
    While DQ chooses to wallow as usual in the sewer, I'll remind people that the laws can always be changed. That includes the Constitution. (Just do it the right way, through the legislative and amendment process, not by misusing the courts.)
  • Don Quijote
    Dodging the Bullet: Tort Immunity for Gun Makers

    Last week, President Bush created a significant exception to that principle when he signed the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act,” a federal law that gives the gun industry a broad, nationwide immunity from legal responsibility for its actions. If the legislation survives constitutional challenges, gun makers and dealers will enjoy a level of protection from tort liability shared by no other industry.
    ...
    The statute generally bars claims brought against manufacturers, sellers, or trade associations concerning harm resulting from illegal misuse of a firearm or ammunition. In other words, if Beretta carelessly distributes a firearm in a way that makes it easy for a criminal to obtain it, Beretta will have no liability to the victims of murders, assaults, robberies, or other crimes committed with the gun.


    Brought to you by a Republican Senate, House and President and a bunch of quisling democrats.

    Now if some good citizen in Jesusland gets his ass blown away by some pissed off kid or deranged individual who just bought a truck full guns from the local gun dealer, don't come crying to me, they are getting exactly what they voted for.
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