Comments on: Who Deserves What? http://themoderatevoice.com/17548/who-deserves-what/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:06:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/17548/who-deserves-what/comment-page-1/#comment-151182 DLS Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:13:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/17548/who-deserves-what/#comment-151182 Well, Rudi, Michael Vick apparently gets to keep his bonus.<br><br>At least Kellen Winslow lost money after violating his contract, didn't he?<br><br>* * *<br><br><a href="http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-080131rick-morrissey-super-bowl-xlii-ditka%2C1%2C7196271.column">http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/...</a><br><br><a href="http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id=277586">http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?i...</a> Well, Rudi, Michael Vick apparently gets to keep his bonus.

At least Kellen Winslow lost money after violating his contract, didn't he?

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]]> By: Rudi http://themoderatevoice.com/17548/who-deserves-what/comment-page-1/#comment-151181 Rudi Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:08:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/17548/who-deserves-what/#comment-151181 DLS - You should have added a little more than just the link. The link deals with NFL pensions, but most players aren't around long enough for a decent pension. In the 1980's I remember an anecdotal example of what the NFL players actually go through. Because much of their money isn't contractually guaranteed, the largest Michigan furniture store wouldn't give them credit, it was strictly a cash sale. <a href="http://pittsburgh.about.com/od/steelers/a/mike_webster.htm">Mike Webster</a> is an example of what deserving gets one. A true hero is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Dorney">Keith Dorney</a>, yet many Detroit sports writers questioned his integrity for his last appearance where he failed a physical and pocketed $60,000. But the money was contractually guaranteed. DLS – You should have added a little more than just the link. The link deals with NFL pensions, but most players aren't around long enough for a decent pension. In the 1980's I remember an anecdotal example of what the NFL players actually go through. Because much of their money isn't contractually guaranteed, the largest Michigan furniture store wouldn't give them credit, it was strictly a cash sale. Mike Webster is an example of what deserving gets one. A true hero is Keith Dorney, yet many Detroit sports writers questioned his integrity for his last appearance where he failed a physical and pocketed $60,000. But the money was contractually guaranteed.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/17548/who-deserves-what/comment-page-1/#comment-151180 DLS Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:40:45 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/17548/who-deserves-what/#comment-151180 Class warfare is easily overdone, but in the case of pro football...<br><br><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+site:nflretirees.blogspot.com+nfl+linemen+injuries+pension">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+site:nflr...</a> Class warfare is easily overdone, but in the case of pro football…

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]]> By: crossn81 http://themoderatevoice.com/17548/who-deserves-what/comment-page-1/#comment-151179 crossn81 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:54:58 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/17548/who-deserves-what/#comment-151179 Very well said. Those who really do the hardest and most important work do not get fairly compensated up and down the spectrum. Think about teachers who help train every single adult - what do they get? Very well said. Those who really do the hardest and most important work do not get fairly compensated up and down the spectrum. Think about teachers who help train every single adult – what do they get?

]]> By: chuckbutcher http://themoderatevoice.com/17548/who-deserves-what/comment-page-1/#comment-151178 chuckbutcher Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:25:39 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/17548/who-deserves-what/#comment-151178 I have a construction crew (more likely had) that is seriously underpaid. I know they are, because I'm getting badly hurt along with them and I've been in this business since 1974 and at one time I could make a living as a crew member. Deserve? A half million dollar house built by people making 50% of 1984 wages? So, where did the wages go? Apparently 30% of illegal aliens work construction - you don't suppose all those cheating contractors are depressing wages? You suppose the denigration of working with your hands has anything to do with it? Maybe the systematic government suppression of unions who used to drag wages up? Deserve? These folks risk their health in all kinds of weather to build for people who don't give a rat's patoot if they're alive - they should've made better choices...<br><br>Sound like class warfare? It would be if two sides were fighting...only one is and they're winning and winning and...I guess they deserve. I have a construction crew (more likely had) that is seriously underpaid. I know they are, because I'm getting badly hurt along with them and I've been in this business since 1974 and at one time I could make a living as a crew member. Deserve? A half million dollar house built by people making 50% of 1984 wages? So, where did the wages go? Apparently 30% of illegal aliens work construction – you don't suppose all those cheating contractors are depressing wages? You suppose the denigration of working with your hands has anything to do with it? Maybe the systematic government suppression of unions who used to drag wages up? Deserve? These folks risk their health in all kinds of weather to build for people who don't give a rat's patoot if they're alive – they should've made better choices…

Sound like class warfare? It would be if two sides were fighting…only one is and they're winning and winning and…I guess they deserve.

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