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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17405/ask-the-gop-to-support-campaign-finance-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-139057</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The power of money in politics and media is at the heart of so many bad decisions and policies that elevate narrow private interests over the public good. Public financing would help, and yes, perhaps with other changes to close loopholes. Even more effective would be stripping away the legal fantasy of &quot;corporate personhood.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The power of money in politics and media is at the heart of so many bad decisions and policies that elevate narrow private interests over the public good. Public financing would help, and yes, perhaps with other changes to close loopholes. Even more effective would be stripping away the legal fantasy of &#8220;corporate personhood.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17405/ask-the-gop-to-support-campaign-finance-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-139056</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that 125 Democratic congressmen are running unopposed and that number will only go up, a robust debate of engaged citizens is the last thing that is going to happen. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want to see the future, look at the elections in the districts currently represented by the Congressional Black Caucus.  Unchallenged incumbents and handpicked successors is the future.   Incompetence and criminal behavior will not be enough to unseat more than very few incumbents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that 125 Democratic congressmen are running unopposed and that number will only go up, a robust debate of engaged citizens is the last thing that is going to happen. </p>
<p>If you want to see the future, look at the elections in the districts currently represented by the Congressional Black Caucus.  Unchallenged incumbents and handpicked successors is the future.   Incompetence and criminal behavior will not be enough to unseat more than very few incumbents.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSilver</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17405/ask-the-gop-to-support-campaign-finance-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-139055</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulSilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that the GOP will continue to be vital in a large number of districts around the country. With redistricting reform the debate of ideas will be more robust and engage more citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the GOP will continue to be vital in a large number of districts around the country. With redistricting reform the debate of ideas will be more robust and engage more citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The collapse of the Republican Party will probably make most of the campaign finance moot.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When the Democratic primary is the ony relevant elections, then GOTV and feet on the ground will become more important than television advertising.  In a one party state, politics will become a niche past time of activist and everyone else will left on the outside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The collapse of the Republican Party will probably make most of the campaign finance moot.  </p>
<p>When the Democratic primary is the ony relevant elections, then GOTV and feet on the ground will become more important than television advertising.  In a one party state, politics will become a niche past time of activist and everyone else will left on the outside.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulSilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casualobserver,&lt;br&gt;I agree with you that loopholes need to be tightened. So what are you doing about it?&lt;br&gt;Are you supporting any groups or candidates committed to doing something about it?&lt;br&gt;Do you believe that it is a lost cause? &lt;br&gt;Do you believe that sharing your pessimism and cynicism  is making a contribution to others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casualobserver,<br />I agree with you that loopholes need to be tightened. So what are you doing about it?<br />Are you supporting any groups or candidates committed to doing something about it?<br />Do you believe that it is a lost cause? <br />Do you believe that sharing your pessimism and cynicism  is making a contribution to others?</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17405/ask-the-gop-to-support-campaign-finance-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-139052</link>
		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, I know you and Pete mean well on this, but this movement is going nowhere without a dismantling of the 527s as part and parcel. After all, just because those virtuous D&#039;s pay lip service to public financing.........&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;”These latest revelations make it clear why Edwards was able to announce that he could accept public funds while still spending all he needed to spend in Iowa,” Obama Campaign Manager David Plouffe writes. “His campaign simply exploited the biggest loophole in the campaign finance system in order to get public matching funds while arranging through allies to benefit from a 527. That’s how they avoided the spending limits that are a condition of the public matching funds.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Clinton, Plouffe denounces an anti-Obama AFSCME mailer. Notably, a pro-Edwards 527, funded largely by local SEIUs, is up with positive ads in Iowa for Edwards. AFSCME and the American Federation of Teachers have been out with mailers for Clinton. Clinton has not shied away from interest groups’ money, even defending them as real people at this summer’s YearlyKos convention. Edwards has campaigned hard on a platform against Washington interest group money, and has had to balance denouncing the 527 and embracing the support of the SEIU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, I know you and Pete mean well on this, but this movement is going nowhere without a dismantling of the 527s as part and parcel. After all, just because those virtuous D&#39;s pay lip service to public financing&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>”These latest revelations make it clear why Edwards was able to announce that he could accept public funds while still spending all he needed to spend in Iowa,” Obama Campaign Manager David Plouffe writes. “His campaign simply exploited the biggest loophole in the campaign finance system in order to get public matching funds while arranging through allies to benefit from a 527. That’s how they avoided the spending limits that are a condition of the public matching funds.”</p>
<p>On Clinton, Plouffe denounces an anti-Obama AFSCME mailer. Notably, a pro-Edwards 527, funded largely by local SEIUs, is up with positive ads in Iowa for Edwards. AFSCME and the American Federation of Teachers have been out with mailers for Clinton. Clinton has not shied away from interest groups’ money, even defending them as real people at this summer’s YearlyKos convention. Edwards has campaigned hard on a platform against Washington interest group money, and has had to balance denouncing the 527 and embracing the support of the SEIU.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulSilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sympathetic with what Jefferson said.  My preference would be a small tax on the media industry to fund campaigns since they are the largest beneficiary of campaign expenses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since money, like water, finds all cracks, the process of perfecting representative government is a constant process that tries to minimize the opportunities for special interests to buy favorable legislation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Personally I hope for the Supreme Court to reverse its position that Money = Free Speech.  In an increasingly global economy, transnational corporations are inclined to spend what is necessary to buy favors from financially desperate candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sympathetic with what Jefferson said.  My preference would be a small tax on the media industry to fund campaigns since they are the largest beneficiary of campaign expenses.</p>
<p>Since money, like water, finds all cracks, the process of perfecting representative government is a constant process that tries to minimize the opportunities for special interests to buy favorable legislation.</p>
<p>Personally I hope for the Supreme Court to reverse its position that Money = Free Speech.  In an increasingly global economy, transnational corporations are inclined to spend what is necessary to buy favors from financially desperate candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: pabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>pabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All other comments notwithstanding, I signed the petition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All other comments notwithstanding, I signed the petition.</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or as Thomas Jefferson put it, &quot;To compel a man to furnish contribution of money to the propagation of opinions to which he does not agree is sinful and tyrannical.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or as Thomas Jefferson put it, &#8220;To compel a man to furnish contribution of money to the propagation of opinions to which he does not agree is sinful and tyrannical.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pat_Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat_Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must have missed the part of the pledge that includes not spitting on the sidewalk, an example of where public financing has produced uncorrupted public officials and a promise to help old ladies across the street.  Why would the Republicans sign such a pledge when, one they completely disagree with the premise and two that if the Democrats maintain control of congress the liklihood of unions facing such limitations is unlikely?  This looks like one of those suicide pacts where the &quot;good guys&quot;  hand a gun to the &quot;bad guys&quot; and with voices trembling with sincerity promise to go next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have missed the part of the pledge that includes not spitting on the sidewalk, an example of where public financing has produced uncorrupted public officials and a promise to help old ladies across the street.  Why would the Republicans sign such a pledge when, one they completely disagree with the premise and two that if the Democrats maintain control of congress the liklihood of unions facing such limitations is unlikely?  This looks like one of those suicide pacts where the &#8220;good guys&#8221;  hand a gun to the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; and with voices trembling with sincerity promise to go next.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiss my shiny metal&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ask the GOP to support Campaign Finance Reform</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiss my shiny metal&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ask the GOP to support Campaign Finance Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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