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		<dc:creator>hey idiot buy mp3s only here!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last but not least -- more fuel for the Dems&#039; pre-November gloat-fest:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120121663246015023.html?mod=googlenews_wsj&quot;&gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120121663246015...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last but not least &#8212; more fuel for the Dems&#39; pre-November gloat-fest:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120121663246015023.html?mod=googlenews_wsj"></a><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120121663246015.." rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120121663246015..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the word is &quot;doyenne,&quot; Shaun.  I doubt she&#039;d appreciate the use of any dimunitive form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the word is &#8220;doyenne,&#8221; Shaun.  I doubt she&#39;d appreciate the use of any dimunitive form.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting reader remarks here.  Shaun will like the picture at the top.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.patdollard.com/2008/01/peggy-noonan-bush-destroyed-the-republican-party?referer=sphere_related_content&quot;&gt;http://www.patdollard.com/2008/01/peggy-noonan-...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting reader remarks here.  Shaun will like the picture at the top.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.patdollard.com/2008/01/peggy-noonan-bush-destroyed-the-republican-party?referer=sphere_related_content"></a><a href="http://www.patdollard.com/2008/01/peggy-noonan-.." rel="nofollow">http://www.patdollard.com/2008/01/peggy-noonan-..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wouldn&#039;t put all of the blame on Pres. Bush.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This thread originally wasn&#039;t about reality, but about bashing Bush (again).  At least it has developed into something interesting, because the GOP (not only Bush; that never was the case) is dysfunctional these days.  Not anywhere as dysfunctional as something like Albany (New York&#039;s capital), but dysfumctional, nevertheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wouldn&#39;t put all of the blame on Pres. Bush.&#8221;</p>
<p>This thread originally wasn&#39;t about reality, but about bashing Bush (again).  At least it has developed into something interesting, because the GOP (not only Bush; that never was the case) is dysfunctional these days.  Not anywhere as dysfunctional as something like Albany (New York&#39;s capital), but dysfumctional, nevertheless.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not best for the country, K -- McCain does what he believes is best for himself.</description>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then McCain, Specter, Snowe, Collins, Chafee can be honest and become official establishmentarian Democrats....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, the Gang of 14 was like Unity 08, Big Government Business As Usual, Worship The Status Quo stuff that is the very last thing needed nowadays in Washington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then McCain, Specter, Snowe, Collins, Chafee can be honest and become official establishmentarian Democrats&#8230;.</p>
<p>Also, the Gang of 14 was like Unity 08, Big Government Business As Usual, Worship The Status Quo stuff that is the very last thing needed nowadays in Washington.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to repair the elephant?  Same as with the donkey.  Ideally we don&#039;t try to repair either but break up the GOP into the &quot;Whigs&quot; and &quot;Tories&quot; identified years ago by Amitai Etzioni, the libertarian, small-government GOP Whigs and the big government, eagle-and-flag Tories.  The Religious Right would remain in the Tory Party unless they sought someday to form their own party; I doubt they have the critical mass to be successful at this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(With the Dems, split off the establishmentarian DLC-DNC-Brookings types from the more liberal to radical elements of the party and let the latter boost the size of the Green Party unless they formed a new party from scratch with a different name.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to repair the elephant?  Same as with the donkey.  Ideally we don&#39;t try to repair either but break up the GOP into the &#8220;Whigs&#8221; and &#8220;Tories&#8221; identified years ago by Amitai Etzioni, the libertarian, small-government GOP Whigs and the big government, eagle-and-flag Tories.  The Religious Right would remain in the Tory Party unless they sought someday to form their own party; I doubt they have the critical mass to be successful at this.</p>
<p>(With the Dems, split off the establishmentarian DLC-DNC-Brookings types from the more liberal to radical elements of the party and let the latter boost the size of the Green Party unless they formed a new party from scratch with a different name.)</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was quid pro quo. The GOP Congress dropped their oversight role, and in exchange, the president ignored pork-laden appropriations bills. The two branches stopped checking each other, and the GOP leadership coerced its members to support Bush&#039;s programs. They&#039;re all guilty.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SD- McCain exhibited leadership by doing what he believed was best for his country-not the Republican party. Its not his fault that taking a lot of money from a few big donors isn&#039;t always whats best for us as a nation. His party hated him because it threatened their hold on power. But he earned the respect of everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was quid pro quo. The GOP Congress dropped their oversight role, and in exchange, the president ignored pork-laden appropriations bills. The two branches stopped checking each other, and the GOP leadership coerced its members to support Bush&#39;s programs. They&#39;re all guilty.</p>
<p>SD- McCain exhibited leadership by doing what he believed was best for his country-not the Republican party. Its not his fault that taking a lot of money from a few big donors isn&#39;t always whats best for us as a nation. His party hated him because it threatened their hold on power. But he earned the respect of everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that Congressional Republicans made the President do what he did--it&#039;s that they uncritically enabled him to do what he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s not that Congressional Republicans made the President do what he did&#8211;it&#39;s that they uncritically enabled him to do what he did.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JIm, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Republicans in the U.S. house are some of the most irrelvant politicians that exist today.  That have no affect on policy, bills, or government operations. About all they can do is put earmarks into the budget and vote against bills that will pass without them. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As soon as the Democrats get 60 seats in the U.S., the Republican Party will become irrelevant.  The Democrats will probably manage to eliminate at least 30 Republicans Congressmen when with redistricting in 2011.  By 2012, the Republicans will be lucky to have 35% of the seats in the House.   The real question is whether the last Republicans Congressman in the northeast U.S. will be voted out of office in 2010 or 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JIm, </p>
<p>The Republicans in the U.S. house are some of the most irrelvant politicians that exist today.  That have no affect on policy, bills, or government operations. About all they can do is put earmarks into the budget and vote against bills that will pass without them. </p>
<p>As soon as the Democrats get 60 seats in the U.S., the Republican Party will become irrelevant.  The Democrats will probably manage to eliminate at least 30 Republicans Congressmen when with redistricting in 2011.  By 2012, the Republicans will be lucky to have 35% of the seats in the House.   The real question is whether the last Republicans Congressman in the northeast U.S. will be voted out of office in 2010 or 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PaulSilver,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Even if the Senate manages to find some moderate Republicans will it really help given the kind of Republicans who populate the House?</description>
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<p>     Even if the Senate manages to find some moderate Republicans will it really help given the kind of Republicans who populate the House?</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD - The Gang of 14 is an example of McClown&#039;s leadership, even though you didn&#039;t like it. What happens when Billary is POTUS and a simple Demonocrat majority starts to clone Ginsburg&#039;s for SCOTUS? Lindsay Graham is a McClown prodigy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD &#8211; The Gang of 14 is an example of McClown&#39;s leadership, even though you didn&#39;t like it. What happens when Billary is POTUS and a simple Demonocrat majority starts to clone Ginsburg&#39;s for SCOTUS? Lindsay Graham is a McClown prodigy.</p>
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		<title>By: shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &quot;Congress Made Him Do It&quot; scenario is seductive and Captain Ed, among other right-of center bloggers buy into it.  I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul:</p>
<p>The &#8220;Congress Made Him Do It&#8221; scenario is seductive and Captain Ed, among other right-of center bloggers buy into it.  I don&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put the blame on Bush, Hastert, and Frist.  None of them demonstrate the any leadership ability.  History has shown that Hastert was a total incompetent and really harmed the Replubican Party. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the end, the U.S. will end up as a one party state.  Instead of discussing the impossible scenerio of McCain bring conservative issues back to relevance, everyone shoudl begin to discuss how the U.S. will function as a one party state. I would say that seniority in the House and Senate needs to be eliminate  or that the U.S.cannot really call itself a representative democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put the blame on Bush, Hastert, and Frist.  None of them demonstrate the any leadership ability.  History has shown that Hastert was a total incompetent and really harmed the Replubican Party. </p>
<p>In the end, the U.S. will end up as a one party state.  Instead of discussing the impossible scenerio of McCain bring conservative issues back to relevance, everyone shoudl begin to discuss how the U.S. will function as a one party state. I would say that seniority in the House and Senate needs to be eliminate  or that the U.S.cannot really call itself a representative democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulSilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t put all of the blame on Pres. Bush.  All of his mistakes were enabled by the GOP congress.  It seems to me that Bush did what his congressional constituents wanted.  That is why I am personally more focused on the Senate elections than even the Presidental one.  I give most of my money to the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#39;t put all of the blame on Pres. Bush.  All of his mistakes were enabled by the GOP congress.  It seems to me that Bush did what his congressional constituents wanted.  That is why I am personally more focused on the Senate elections than even the Presidental one.  I give most of my money to the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kritt, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain-Feiingold has a very negative impact on the Republicans.  It hurt the Republicans ability to fund raise while leaving the Democratic party all the advantages they had with NGO&#039;s and union and pubic sector employees.  Open borders and amnesty will eliminate any chance of conservatives making a come back while lowering the quality of life for most blue collar Americans.  McCain either does not care about the negative impacts or is too stupid to understand them.  That alone makes him unqualified to lead a conservative movement. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain should be running in the Demoratic primary as the moderate counterpart to the liberal politices of Clinton and Obama. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, name anyone who he has mentored into a position of power.  The Reagan Administration produce a generation of conseravtive leaders.  The Bush Administration has effectively destroyed the next generation of Repullbicans.  McCain would ensure that no new Republicans get a chance to lead. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the Republicans want ot regain any credibility they had better start paying attention to the small government conservatives.  If people want big government, they will always vote for the Democrats.  They are better at big government and passing out benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kritt, </p>
<p>McCain-Feiingold has a very negative impact on the Republicans.  It hurt the Republicans ability to fund raise while leaving the Democratic party all the advantages they had with NGO&#39;s and union and pubic sector employees.  Open borders and amnesty will eliminate any chance of conservatives making a come back while lowering the quality of life for most blue collar Americans.  McCain either does not care about the negative impacts or is too stupid to understand them.  That alone makes him unqualified to lead a conservative movement. </p>
<p>McCain should be running in the Demoratic primary as the moderate counterpart to the liberal politices of Clinton and Obama. </p>
<p>Also, name anyone who he has mentored into a position of power.  The Reagan Administration produce a generation of conseravtive leaders.  The Bush Administration has effectively destroyed the next generation of Repullbicans.  McCain would ensure that no new Republicans get a chance to lead. </p>
<p>If the Republicans want ot regain any credibility they had better start paying attention to the small government conservatives.  If people want big government, they will always vote for the Democrats.  They are better at big government and passing out benefits.</p>
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