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	<title>Comments on: So Many Friedman Units, So Little Time &amp; Other News From George Bush&#8217;s Forever War</title>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you even know if Petraeus was talking about troop levels? It&#039;s hard to &quot;read into&quot; what he was saying since it&#039;s one edited sound bite and we don&#039;t know what the question was he responded to.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And &quot;no troops withdrawals for the foreseeable future&quot;?  I assume you mean no troop withdrawals other than those already scheduled to take place over the next six months right?  And it&#039;s quite prescient on you part that you can so confidently assert no further withdrawals will occur after July since such a decision won&#039;t be made until March at the earliest!  Excuse me if I don&#039;t see how such assertions flow so easily from the Petraeus quote - perhaps you could explain?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Additionally, you might consider being a little less &quot;literal&quot; yourself since you&#039;ve attributed to Petraeus something he did not, in fact, say. Just sayin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun,</p>
<p>Do you even know if Petraeus was talking about troop levels? It&#39;s hard to &#8220;read into&#8221; what he was saying since it&#39;s one edited sound bite and we don&#39;t know what the question was he responded to.</p>
<p>And &#8220;no troops withdrawals for the foreseeable future&#8221;?  I assume you mean no troop withdrawals other than those already scheduled to take place over the next six months right?  And it&#39;s quite prescient on you part that you can so confidently assert no further withdrawals will occur after July since such a decision won&#39;t be made until March at the earliest!  Excuse me if I don&#39;t see how such assertions flow so easily from the Petraeus quote &#8211; perhaps you could explain?</p>
<p>Additionally, you might consider being a little less &#8220;literal&#8221; yourself since you&#39;ve attributed to Petraeus something he did not, in fact, say. Just sayin&#39;</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it makes you feel better:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=kdca&amp;RANGE=6000mi%40dca%250D%250A&amp;PATH-COLOR=red&amp;PATH-UNITS=mi&amp;PATH-MINIMUM=&amp;SPEED-GROUND=&amp;SPEED-UNITS=kts&amp;RANGE-STYLE=best&amp;RANGE-COLOR=navy&amp;MAP-STYLE=ortho&amp;MAP-CENTER=LHR&quot;&gt;http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=kdca&amp;RANGE=6...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it makes you feel better:</p>
<p><a href="http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=kdca&#038;RANGE=6000mi%40dca%250D%250A&#038;PATH-COLOR=red&#038;PATH-UNITS=mi&#038;PATH-MINIMUM=&#038;SPEED-GROUND=&#038;SPEED-UNITS=kts&#038;RANGE-STYLE=best&#038;RANGE-COLOR=navy&#038;MAP-STYLE=ortho&#038;MAP-CENTER=LHR">http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=kdca&#038;RANGE=6&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The reality is 6,000 miles due east of Washington.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=LTAZ&quot;&gt;http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=LTAZ&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The reality is 6,000 miles due east of Washington.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=LTAZ">http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=LTAZ</a></p>
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		<title>By: shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re being too literal.  Take a quarter step back and read into what Petraeus is saying, which implicitly is (a.) No troop withdrawals for the forseeable future, and (b.) the people in Washington are out of their gourds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy:</p>
<p>You&#39;re being too literal.  Take a quarter step back and read into what Petraeus is saying, which implicitly is (a.) No troop withdrawals for the forseeable future, and (b.) the people in Washington are out of their gourds.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re reading too much, I think, into what he said in this interview:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We think we won’t know that we’ve reached a turning point until we’re six months past it. We have repeatedly said that there is no lights at the end of the tunnel that we’re seeing. We’re certainly not dancing in the end zone or anything like that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, we also don&#039;t know what specific question this comment was even responding to, so there&#039;s little context to evaluate it.  Still, I don&#039;t see how anyone can take that to mean that troop withdrawals will somehow be delayed, particularly since none have been announced beyond those already made and also considering a decision won&#039;t even be looked at until the spring.  Again, where is the Freidman unit here?  You stated in your post that, &quot;Petraeus now says the U.S. needs at least one more Friedman Unit...&quot; so where is it?  He said nothing of the kind that I can see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun,</p>
<p>You&#39;re reading too much, I think, into what he said in this interview:</p>
<blockquote><p>We think we won’t know that we’ve reached a turning point until we’re six months past it. We have repeatedly said that there is no lights at the end of the tunnel that we’re seeing. We’re certainly not dancing in the end zone or anything like that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, we also don&#39;t know what specific question this comment was even responding to, so there&#39;s little context to evaluate it.  Still, I don&#39;t see how anyone can take that to mean that troop withdrawals will somehow be delayed, particularly since none have been announced beyond those already made and also considering a decision won&#39;t even be looked at until the spring.  Again, where is the Freidman unit here?  You stated in your post that, &#8220;Petraeus now says the U.S. needs at least one more Friedman Unit&#8230;&#8221; so where is it?  He said nothing of the kind that I can see.</p>
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		<title>By: shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;re both right.  Petraeus said nothing explicit about force reductions except that there aren&#039;t going to be any beginning in March -- and he won&#039;t know when there will be until six months beyond a turning point that people outside of Washington understand has not been reached.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just to be clear: I&#039;m not twigging Petraeus.  I&#039;m calling out the dancers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy:</p>
<p>We&#39;re both right.  Petraeus said nothing explicit about force reductions except that there aren&#39;t going to be any beginning in March &#8212; and he won&#39;t know when there will be until six months beyond a turning point that people outside of Washington understand has not been reached.</p>
<p>Just to be clear: I&#39;m not twigging Petraeus.  I&#39;m calling out the dancers.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I missed something, but I didn&#039;t see anything in that interview that anything had been put off or delayed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Petraeus stated in his September testimony a schedule for force reductions to pre-surge levels by July 2008 and he explicitly stated that no decision on further force reductions could be made before March 2008 at the earliest.  I don&#039;t see that anything has changed in that schedule.  Are you now saying that the decision of future force reductions will not take place until the fall 2008? If so, he does not say that in the interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I missed something, but I didn&#39;t see anything in that interview that anything had been put off or delayed.</p>
<p>Petraeus stated in his September testimony a schedule for force reductions to pre-surge levels by July 2008 and he explicitly stated that no decision on further force reductions could be made before March 2008 at the earliest.  I don&#39;t see that anything has changed in that schedule.  Are you now saying that the decision of future force reductions will not take place until the fall 2008? If so, he does not say that in the interview.</p>
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