Comments on: More Clinton Supporters’ Mistakes

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Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:32:36 +0000

[...] Angela Winters again, this time on Mr. Rangel’s recent remarks: “Is it possible that Hillary thinks if she can sic her ‘black supporters’ on Obama, that it protects her against the backlash? It’s more likely she had nothing to do with this, but she really needs to get a handle on those people claiming to support her.” [...]

By: cosmoetica

cosmoetica — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:06:14 +0000

Rangel has always been Al Sharpton with a federal paycheck.

By: daveinboca

daveinboca — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:36:09 +0000

Ho hum… While Clinton was getting booed by knowledgeable African-Americans, ignorant ones like Charlie Rangel were calling Obama's remarks [merely wondering why HRC complained about Cong. John Clyburn's remarks] “absolutely stupid.”

Rangel and Robert Johnson are absolutely idiotic to support a pair of con-people like the Clinton Inc. duo.

And if the Clintons believe they can always waltz away from clowns like Rangel & Johnson & Shaheen, they are also absolute idiots.

By: DLS

DLS — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:16:09 +0000

Clinton wasn't putting down King; she was trying to promote herself.

By: Jammer

Jammer — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:03:07 +0000

Oh really. HRC can no more control what Charlie Rangel says than she can control what Bob Johnson says. No one controls what either of them say. Frankly, Johnson's comments came closer to being beyond that pale with his reference to what Obama said he was doing in his book. This stuff on King is just pure unadulterated crap by people who refuse to even try to understand the point. Here is the point: while it takes leaders like King to stir up the people, raise peoples consciousness, and start and continue movements, and while King was magical at all of these, the legislative embodiment of his dream, the passage of the Civil Rights Act, required someone in Washington who knew how to push and pull the levers of powers, how to cajole and threaten and use the power of the presidency to get it passed. Thats all. Nothing racist there, and nothing anti-King. It is the reality of how a governmental system works. Now you may quibble with the argument. You might say that more than the levers of power being pushed wisely by a person familiar with how Washington works, that LBJ used JFK's assassination to shame people into accepting the Civil Rights Act, although clearly someone who knew how to properly exercise power was necessary, given JFK's failure on this point as well as on other points of his domestic agenda, but the point is clear, not-racist and not demeaning to King. HRC is arguing she is the person who knows how to exercise the levers of power for change. That she understands how to use every weapon and tool at the disposal of the president in aid of her agenda. She is arguing that Obama does not have that knowledge or ability. Again, quibble with the point, thats fair game, but its NOT racist dammit.

By: markg8

markg8 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:06:15 +0000

“But for him to suggest that Dr. King could have signed that act is absolutely stupid. It’s absolutely dumb to infer that Doctor King, alone, passed the legislation and signed it into law.”

Don't you just love it? Hillary tells her minions to knock it off and the very next day we get Rangel making such a dumb argument. Dr. King, if he'd had a mind to, never could have entered politics in the Old South. It wasn't an option. Just like the press release from her campaign after IA about how they wouldn't be going negative just before they unleashed a barrage of attacks Rangel's BS isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

By: DLS

DLS — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:29:12 +0000

What fun — the Democrats aren't content to polarize the public, but with an election they expect to win, now they're polarizing themselves, into the Obama camp and the Clinton camp, the Obama tents and the Clinton tents, the Obama war drums and the Clinton war drums, the Obama smoke signals and the Clinton smoke signals…what entertainment!