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Clinton-Supporting BET Founder In Flap Over Raising Obama Drug Use

Did he mean it, or didn’t he? It’s a question that has come up often with New York Senator Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the 2008 Democratic nomination — and it came up AGAIN in South Carolina as BET’s founder made comments that some felt raised questions about Senator Barack Obama’s admitted youthful drug use. He later explained that he was misunderstood.

Here are the key facts from the New York Times The Caucus blog:

Robert L. Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, who is campaigning today in South Carolina with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, just made a suggestion that raised the specter of Barack Obama’s past drug use. He also compared Mr. Obama to Sidney Poitier, the black actor, in “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.”

At a rally here for Mrs. Clinton at Columbia College, Mr. Johnson was defending recent comments that Mrs. Clinton made regarding Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. She did not mean to take any credit away from him, Mr. Johnson said, when she said that it took President Johnson to sign the civil rights legislation he fought for.

Dr. King had led a “moral crusade,” Mr. Johnson.

“That is the way the legislative process works in this nation and that takes political leadership,” he said. “That’s all Hillary was saying.”

A good explanation. But then came a comment that has raised eyebrows in some quarters:

He then added: “And to me, as an African-American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues since Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood –­ and I won’t say what he was doing, but he said it in the book –­ when they have been involved.”

Does that suggest he was suggesting Obama was doing something routine or unflattering? The way it’s stated, it’s something he didn’t want to come right out and say…for some reason or another. MORE:

Moments later, he added: “That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me, for a guy who says, ‘I who says, ‘I want to be a reasonable, likable, Sidney Poitier ‘Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.’ And I’m thinking, I’m thinking to myself, this ain’t a movie, Sidney. This is real life.”

Johnson’s comments attacking Obama in general became big news. But then when reporters asked about the apparent drug use reference, this is how the campaign responded. Fox News:

Asked what Senator Clinton thought of a surrogate making a drug reference at one of her campaign events, Clinton Spokesman Jay Carson said “I don’t think that’s what he was referring to and her record on this issue is clear. She has made crystal clear to supporters and staff alike that no one should engage in negative personal campaigning.”

Johnson later made a statement The Caucus carried as an update and insisted he was misunderstood:

Update: 5 p.m. Mr. Johnson just released this statement, through the Clinton campaign:

“My comments today were referring to Barack Obama’s time spent as a community organizer, and nothing else. Any other suggestion is simply irresponsible and incorrect.”

“When Hillary Clinton was in her twenties she worked to provide protections for abused and battered children and helped ensure that children with disabilities could attend public school.
That results oriented leadership — even as a young person — is the reason I am supporting Hillary Clinton.”

Question: if he meant Obama’s time as a community organizer and nothing else, then why didn’t he just come out and say it the first time? What was so bad about that?

If this was a coincidence and misunderstanding, then Ms. Clinton needs to run a tighter ship because it isn’t a terrific sign of how she’d run the White House. Can’t she simply warn those campaigning for her not to say things that will get her accused of having surrogates run a negative campaign?

And, if it is part of a pattern and strategy, it is…reprehensible. Particularly for voters who seek not just a change in the players in Washington, but a change in the nation’s political culture — in the way the game is played. One Karl Rove era is enough.

For a sampling of blog reaction to this controversy, go HERE.

  • DLS
    The hyperventilation here is inaccurate. She's not supporting him but instead is evading the real issue, the drug-use remark.
  • dmf
    ugh.

    why is anyone acting like there's even a question about to what he was referring. you simply don't say "and i won't say what" unless it's a negative thing. and even if it's not? you're trying to make people think it is. that's simply the way we operate our language.

    not only is the guy a jerk, but he's also a bullshitter.

    whatever.
  • StockBoySF
    The fact that we're having this conversation is proof enough that Clinton supports such remarks and will play all the dirty tricks to get it out into the open. The comment is so imprecise and insidious that we're left talking about the issue again just to figure out what he meant. The campaign gets this issue out there and everyone talking about it.

    It's interesting how all these comments are coming from her camp, and none of the others (as far as I can tell). It's definitely her strategy (wink, wink).
  • cosmoetica
    Well, given the soft shoe by Johnson, I think it's apt to say, if Obama is a 'hip young black man' then Johnson is an old Stepin' Fetchit.

    Dance for the Missus!
  • Rudi
    Maybe Johnston should laud Obama as a success story. Of course the crap on BET doesn't perpetuate any stereotypes with the shows and videos on BET. Let's compare the life work of Obama(not on BET) and 50 cent(mucho BET). Johnson laughs all the way to the bank, while youths in Compton, Detroit and Warren(Michigan) have 50 as an idol.
  • The Democratic primary campaign is disintegrating (has disintegrated) into a pathetic display of *precisely* what I, for one, wanted a "change" from.
  • PaulSilver
    Often when an candidate is maligned in a way that I feel is unfair I make a small online donation to their campaign - maybe $10-$20.

    I find it satisfying to make many small donations that give me the experience of speaking up whenever something happens that moves me.

    So far it seems to me that Obama is running a more honorable and civil campaign than Senator Clinton.
  • I think I'll continue my streak of voting third party in protest. As for Bob Johnson, the BET hypocrite for lifer, I have five words for you:

    YOUR A PATHETIC ATTENTION GETTER!

    The slop on his network speaks for itself and him.
  • JSpencer
    Wow, we're only this far into the primaries and people are taking these kinds of cheap shots already? Dick Durbin is right, the D's need to get a grip if they aren't going to self-destruct. Beyond that, one can only hope the intended audience for this stuff is capable of separating the BS from what matters.
  • Somebody
    The far left smear machine is in full gear and we are only weeks into the game. Pity Clinton. Its going to be a long haul for her to try and withstand the far left loonie birds as they scream loud and long at everything that comes out of her mouth.

    By this time next month we still WILL NOT have a clue what Obama stands for but Hillary Clinton will be in prision for pissing on the constitution, refusing Habeas Corpus, Joinning the American Taliban, helping the Iranians buy guns to give to Osama Bin Laden, calling every black in America names, insulting every citizen of America, Threatening to make all women wear Burkas and giving nuclear secrets to China.

    And thats only February's worth of progressive lies. I wonder what March will bring?
  • DLS
    Somebody, the far left remains largely the shit of our society but this time it was a Clinton supporter that committed misconduct. And, plenty of people who aren't far left (or Obama fans) are critical of Clinton. I've never been a Bush fan and have been on record criticizing him, but have defended him from the worst Bush-bashing degenerates. In this case, a Clinton supporter was wrong and it reflects on Clinton, who hereself is far from angelic.
  • DLS
    "I wonder what March will bring?"

    It depends on to what extent the establishmentarian Left (Hillary Clinton) treats the farther left (mainly "progressives") even worse than the GOP treats the Religious Right. (Just shut your asses up and vote for our party.)

    I'm not a starry-eyed dupe or dewy- or doe-eyed kid faithful to Obama, but this guy really isn't threatening (and I don't see him as a radical Trojan horse) and he really has a large amount of support. (Here in Iowa I got a good chuckle today from one car I saw with an Obama sticker -- I wanted to leave the owner a note, "Don't give up!" -- next to another car with a sticker that said "BUSH ES UN PENEDJO." Did you think Iowa is totally conservative?)
  • Somebody
    It does not matter who it was DLS. The fact of the matter is that its immensely funny that the far left smear machine is going after a fellow far leftie because she is not far left enough.

    Dont you see the irony of this. Try to look past your detestation of Hillary for a moment.
  • Somebody
    and he really has a large amount of support

    Who do you think that support is mostly coming from?

    Its the far left who is vehemently antiwar, antichristian, anti just about everything. His numbers nationwide are 36 percent. That is roughly about where Im putting the far left antiwar progressives in numbers. It is this attack machine that has destroyed Bush's presidency and if left unaccountable will Destroy Hillary and then whoever runs against them.

    It is this attack machine that they blame on the GOP and yet they are every bit as powerful and as effective as anything the right can throw out there. This lying attack machine destroyed the GOP in this country in the 2006 elections. This time they are just using it on their own. Because their own is not BAT SHIT crazy left.

    I find nothing funny about it at all. They have not skipped a beat to get their favorite son nominated. By June Bill Clinton will be Osama Bin Laden himself.
  • I agree with DLS. More than the far left detests Hillary Clinton. And that has been known way before Obama announced he was running for President.

    Bob Johnson is part of the BDE (Black Democratic Establishment) that ADORES the Clintons no matter what they say or do. Here in the Detroit Metro area, local black radio hosts are being attacked hard for even thinking about supporting Obama by black "Clintonites". Just blind adoration and loyalty to the Clintons for nothing but scraps. The Clintons have talked a GREAT GAME about helping the black community yet have done NOTHING. That's why it's funny watching Hillary Clinton attack Barack Obama about not doing anything/lack of experience. Guess it takes one to know one, eh?
  • Somebody
    Well I think most people are failing to grasp the bigger picture here.

    There is a movement in this country called progressivism. As Cosmo so eloquently debated with me for days.......its a moderate movement by definition. However their is really nothing at all moderate in their movement at all.

    They have chosen Obama as their Dawg. This movement wants to establish the morals and the values that are important today to Americans according to them. This movement is nothing more then a far left version of the religious right that is vying for control of the democratic party.

    The thirst for power by the right led to the RR taking over the GOP. The thirst for power is leading to the Democrats about to be taken over by the far left progressives. This is what I see as the danger. We are going to have two parties run by fringe lunatics. The GOP at least is showing some signs of easing their dependence upon the RR. The DNC is in fear of selling their souls to this smear machine of radicals.

    This is a good thing? Obama is not a danger? This movement is way bigger the Barrak Obama. He simply is putting his name on the poster. Give me a break.
  • They have chosen Obama as their Dawg. This movement wants to establish the morals and the values that are important today to Americans according to them. This movement is nothing more then a far left version of the religious right that is vying for control of the democratic party.

    So are you also saying that Obama is a "far leftist"? I don't see it. But I do agree that folks on the far left do like Obama and his "Change" angle. That being said, IF Obama is elected president (a big IF in my book still), I can't see him trying to further the agenda of the far left and all of their "ways". I just don't feel he would be that stupid to be the far left George Bush Jr.
  • Somebody
    T_Steel I like you. I'm glad that Joe invited you to the dance.

    I wished that people would look at his record. He is a 100 percent yes man when it comes to the vote. He has been established by the NYT as the most liberal member of congress. His voting record is adored by the liberal watchdog groups that keep tabs of Senators and how they vote. He has a 96 percent rating. The highest of any Senator or Congressman.

    Obama's record when in the state senate was one of extreme left policies. He formed alliances with the "Hyde Park Intellectuals" his policies on the website or the progressives dream agenda. Even CNN announced the night of the NH primary "Obama is considerably farther left then is Hillary and he is going to have to explain himself."

    I don't know what else to say. If we all want to pretend Huckabee is liberal I guess we can see what we want to see.
  • flyerhawk
    Somebody,

    I don't understand your argument here. This diary is about a notable Clinton supporter using Obama's drug use as a reason not to vote him and then weakly denying he did.

    What does this nebulous far left creature you refer to, have to do with this? Why are you referring to Obama's alleged political beliefs in a thread about Bob Johnson and Hillary Clinton. You wouldn't be attempting a little deflection, would you?

    I realize that to many Americans the word liberal is most certainly of the 4 letter variety. But it doesn't bother me in the least. Conservatives measure their candidates by how Conservative they are. Yet being Liberal is some contagion that should be quarantined. I don't get that.
  • Somebody
    No you are not following my logic at all. I am OPPOSED to the far right conservative politics of the GOP. It is precisely because the GOP has engaged in divisive politics that has brung us to this point.

    A point in which the Far Left is attempting to take over the Democratic party just as the GOP allowed the RR to take over theirs.

    This is my logic. BO is far left......the most liberal in the senate. It is the progressives who have latched onto his coattails and are using his as their poster boy in a power grab within the Democratic party.

    Hillary Clinton is very liberal herself but she is mainstream, status quo, party affiliated and party endorsed. The progressives under this false guise of moderation are trying to simply force their way into the door, take over the party and run it with their own set of values and morals.

    “At its core,” John Halpin, senior advisor on the staff of the Center for American Progress writes, “progressivism is a non-ideological, pragmatic system of thought grounded in solving problems and maintaining strong values within society.

    He continues.

    Progressivism is practical and driven by the values that define America morality.

    The very thing the Left screams at the right about........Values Morality. We dont want your stinking Values and Morality but now THEY want to instill their own version of the very things they DETEST from the right. I agree. I have said.

    The US government is about governing all people, not running our social lives. VAlues and morality should be more of a states right issue then a national party issue.
  • flyerhawk
    Somebody,

    You're playing with labels. Hillary is very liberal but Obama is uber-liberal? What does that mean?

    I'm not following your logic because I don't see how it is relevant to this discussion, or particularly insightful for that matter.

    What other kind o f morality is there other than values morality?

    If you wish to push for the Democrats to embrace Federalism, go for it. Good luck with that.

    Personally I don't think I care much for giving state's the reins on social issues. They have shown themselves to be utterly untrustworthy on the matter. But that's just me.
  • Somebody
    You're playing with labels. Hillary is very liberal but Obama is uber-liberal? What does that mean?

    Once again the smoke and mirrors card is being played. As light is shined on the movement the proponents start with the song and dance, smoke and mirrors.

    I have explained myself. For those moderate enough to read what I posted it is quite clear.

    The progressives just keep claiming over and over that its semantics. Playing with labels. Using words out of context. And of course progressives dont believe in letting states define values and morals.........thats because "“At its core,” John Halpin, senior advisor on the staff of the Center for American Progress writes, “progressivism is a non-ideological, pragmatic system of thought grounded in solving problems and maintaining strong values within society.

    Blow more smoke. It is what Obama's campaign is excelling at.
  • flyerhawk
    I'm sure that last post was meant to convey some sort of message but I have no idea what it is. I guess I'm just not "moderate" enough.

    Rather than simply explain yourself you decided to carry on with the ad hominem.

    I'm not claiming it's semantics because you haven't even got to that point. Apparently you feel the word Progressive is really bad. Good for you. Is John Halpin on the Obama staff? Is there a reason that I should what he has to say? I realize you are trying some sort of odd smear by association but I don't even know what the association is.

    If you think I'm blowing smoke, so be it. I still haven't figured out how this ties to this diary. You still haven't actually bothered to explain. Instead you go further down the rabbit hole of "Obama is bad because he is a Liberal, Progressive, Radical, etc"
  • Somebody
    Well you have the smoking mirrors part down well.


    No your right. I was confused. I have been smoking too much stuff lately. Nothing more from Me. Obama is a moderate. I have been mindlessly blowing smoke. I apologize. Barak Obama is the man with the plan. I do not know what I was talking about.

    BO is a good man and he should be the nominee for the democratic party. Ill go now. No more from me.
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