The tasteless looking-for-the-WMDs-under-the-table joke by Bush was what began to sour me on him.

But that sounds like BDS…

This issue is clearly one of Hillary's biggest liabilities but I see her prolonging it more than she should. Though I suppose it could be smart strategy be pre-emptively bringing it up- she gets her side (untruths) out there first, rather than have her opponents get the real record which she s forced to respond to.

It doesn't matter that Bill's statements are crazy- that's not the point nor the strategy.

If you want this same sort of attitude in the WH in the next administration, then by all means go ahead and vote for Hillary. You get two polarizers for the price of one- it's a great sale and the best part is they're at 90's prices!

I actually opposed the war at the time because I thought Bush was misleading us. (As you might recall millions of people all over the world marched in the streets- numerous times- to protest any planned invasion). Bush was pushing for the war against terrorists when we all knew the terrorists were elsewhere- also Bush did not allow the UN weapons inspectors to complete their job- and he had earlier said that they should complete their job- lastly when Bush said (effectively, I'm paraphrasing), “Trust us, we have evidence that Iraq has WMDs and once we get in we can show you.” That last insane logic from Bush really put me over the top and clinched his untruthfulness for me. If Bush had evidence, then why couldn't he show us before the war? And why was he shoving the UN inspectors out before they could complete their job? the only reason I could come up with is that he had his own reasons for invading Iraq and if he allowed the UN to stay in and they issued a final report saying that Saddam had no WMDs nor was trying to reconstitute its WMDs programs, then Bush could not have gone into Iraq.

But anyway, I can not forgive Hillary her Iran vote last fall since I see the game as the same old Bush game (as with Iraq- knowingly misleading the country)- and she fell for it this time, just like she fell for Bush's Iraq lies. It's just more of the same with Hillary. Fortunately Bush can't invade Iran as easily as he went into Iraq.

Don't misunderstand me- I didn't much care for Saddam, but we had effectively castrated him with the no-fly zones and all those sanctions. So I thought he was contained and was not threat. And I believe Iran should be dealt with now (and dealt with effectively), though it is Bush's comments (and his subsequent refusal to even talk to them) in 2002 about Iran, Iraq and N. Korea being the axis of evil that pushed Iran over the edge.

Excellent point.

Idiosyncrat:

No, I feel no shame.

The tasteless looking-for-the-WMDs-under-the-table joke by Bush was what began to sour me on him.

– DLS, 1993, true more than ever today as well

Ditto for me, Shaun, but there's a big diff. Neither you nor I had access to classified docs and unclassified info from other intel sources that laid great doubt on the WMD claims. Hillary & the Dems did. She's a hack, and one with no sense of decency.

She is spineless, like the rest of the D's who supported the war and shd have known better.