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By: The Moderate Voice » Domestic and international news analysis, irreverent comments, original reporting, and popular culture features from across the political spectrum.

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:49:25 +0000

[...] here’s my list on coincidences, as published in a post this weekend: FOOTNOTE: I’m an independent voter registered here in CA. I just got my absentee ballot. I can [...]

By: DLS

DLS — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:27:44 +0000

"Sen. Harry Reid declined to comment on a lawsuit brought to eliminate the at-large caucus sites that are designed to allow Strip casino workers to attend the caucus on Jan. 19."

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/early-line/200...

"Good stuff, along with Reid the Younger adopting the longtime Clinton line about 'process stories,' is here:"

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash...

By: DLS

DLS — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:07:13 +0000

Typical Dem party machine mechanics at work…typical Clinton…

By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 05:16:02 +0000

Rudi- yeah, Gringrich DOES make Clinton look good so you have to wonder about his comments praising Hillary! It leaves me almost speechless….

By: Rudi

Rudi — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:54:37 +0000

BTW: Gingrich says that Hillary has integrity?

LOL This from the man who divorced a wife fighting cancer and told her in the hospital. Gingrich is one of the few people who make Bill Clinton look good.

By: Remains of the Day, 1-12-08 | Writes Like She Talks

Remains of the Day, 1-12-08 | Writes Like She Talks — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:49:36 +0000

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By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:14:02 +0000

I don't think it will backfire on Clinton because there appears to be no direct link and she can deny all she wants (like Bush claimed he didn't support the SWIFT Boaters). However her campaign is the only possible beneficiary since the lawsuit directly keeps the union which supports Obama from supporting their candidate in the caucus. Certainly some of those folks would support Hillary, but she's betting that she takes more votes away from Obama than herself. Hillary should be ashamed of herself and this just shows that she's willing to suppress democracy in action for her own political gain.

Bush redux.

By: elrod

elrod — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:59:07 +0000

I hope this backfires on Clinton. Is this getting a lot of play in Las Vegas?

By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:27:55 +0000

You can bet that these same Hillary supporters (even if they are not connected to her campaign) would not have brought this lawsuit if the Culinary Workers Union Local 226 had supported her and not Obama. Joe, you are absolutely right about the timing of the law suit coming shortly after the CWU's endorsement of Obama.

We've all known that Clinton will fight hard to win the Dem. nomination. That includes the use of dirty, sleazy political tactics, whether it be the SWIFT-Boating of Obama (the attacks on his character, even if those attacks are not as blatant as Bush's attacks on Kerry) or the disenfranchisement of voters who would support him.

I think there are two reasons why many people claim they will never vote for Clinton. One is her political tricks and the other is that she is the most polarizing candidate. Some people- Dems and Reps- are drawn to polarizing politicians. These people feel that a polarizing politician is the best kind to have to win a fight. However I feel that polarizing politicians, like Bush, only see things in black and white, with no eye towards seeing (much less considering) other possibilities or reaching a reconciliation with others. I've heard that Hillary has reached across the aisle in the Senate and worked successfully with many Republicans. No doubt she has, just like Bush worked with the De, TX legislature while he was gov. But I have the feeling she will revert to type once she become Prez.

Even though I like many aspects of Hillary, the fact that so many (upwards of 50%) people find her polarizing is reason enough not to vote for her. Once she is President she will need to be President of all the people (at least as much as possible). I don't want a Democratic version of President Bush (old boy political machine- who lets special interests decide policy and who gets lots of time-outs at the sandbox because s/he can't play well with others). For me Obama is the clear choice. Not only is he much less polarizing than Hillary, he seems to stay away from these games, is energetic and has not accumulated years of favors he owes supporters.

BTW: Gingrich says that Hillary has integrity? The Republicans must really want her to run so they can defeat her. Even if Hillary become Prez., the Republicans in Congress know how to fight her and win. It's the same partisan games that the Clintons and Bushes have spent the last couple of decades perfecting.

The Republicans are scared of Obama because he is receiving support from Republican voters. Right now politics is so partisan that the Republicans' constituencies back the Republican politicians, just like the Dem constituencies back Dem. pols. If a truly bipartisan President is elected, then this dynamic mixes things up and let's face it, the Republicans have the most to lose. If a Dem. is destined for the WH, then the Republicans are happiest with Clinton since all the old rules remain in place.

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Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:38:45 +0000

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