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	<title>Comments on: Dennis Kucinich Demands New Hampshire Vote Recount</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17003/dennis-kucinich-demands-new-hampshire-vote-recount/comment-page-1/#comment-133332</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The government of the United States is about governing all the people. It is not about setting social policy.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Absolutely correct. It&#039;s not the federal government&#039;s place to &quot;lead&quot; us or be our parent.  (Entitlement reform must come next, but too many children of all ages are already hooked on them and I don&#039;t think this will happen.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The government of the United States is about governing all the people. It is not about setting social policy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely correct. It&#39;s not the federal government&#39;s place to &#8220;lead&#8221; us or be our parent.  (Entitlement reform must come next, but too many children of all ages are already hooked on them and I don&#39;t think this will happen.)</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17003/dennis-kucinich-demands-new-hampshire-vote-recount/comment-page-1/#comment-133330</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be easier for Kucinich or his defenders to have Ramtha channel the &quot;real&quot; results to them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#39;t it be easier for Kucinich or his defenders to have Ramtha channel the &#8220;real&#8221; results to them?</p>
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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17003/dennis-kucinich-demands-new-hampshire-vote-recount/comment-page-1/#comment-133329</link>
		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really doesn&#039;t matter since all I&#039;d get is talkingpoint comments directly from Rush Limbaugh&#039;s playbook LOL.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I thought it was charming how I changed your handle since it lends itself so easily. hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really doesn&#39;t matter since all I&#39;d get is talkingpoint comments directly from Rush Limbaugh&#39;s playbook LOL.</p>
<p>And I thought it was charming how I changed your handle since it lends itself so easily. hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody, where in the world do you come to such off the wall conclusions? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you cant refrain from innuendo personal attacks then I will not even bother to respond to your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody, where in the world do you come to such off the wall conclusions? </p>
<p>If you cant refrain from innuendo personal attacks then I will not even bother to respond to your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: markg8</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/17003/dennis-kucinich-demands-new-hampshire-vote-recount/comment-page-1/#comment-133324</link>
		<dc:creator>markg8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would take one person with a memory card tainted by a untraceable program a high school kid could write a few minutes access to corrupt one of these tabulating machines and change the outcome at an entire polling place to any numbers he or she wants. Did that happen? I don’t know. I can tell you when Bradblog guest blogger Dori Smith asked Ken Hajjar the Director of Sales and Marketing for LHS Associates, the company that runs virtually all of New England’s elections including 80% of NH’s, “about his admission that he and his company regularly replace voting machine memory cards (the keys to the kingdom!) at will, in the middle of elections, he told her, “I mean, I don’t pay attention to every little law.”“&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe all the polling was wrong, even Obama’s that had him ahead by 14 on election day and Hillary’s that had him ahead by 11. Maybe the unadjusted exit polling that showed him winning was way off base. Maybe you’d rather not think about it because you got the results you wanted. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kucinich’s challenge is an opportunity, maybe the last one we’ll have before November to discredit faith based vote counts on these machines. He probably doesn’t have enough money to do a thorough job and everybody who gives a damn about an honest election in November ought to be throwing some cash his way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Trying to fit Kucinich for a tinfoil hat in this case is disgusting. These machines are endangering our democracy. Say what you want about him you’re not going to put the toothpaste back in the tube. He’s made his challenge and we ought to help do what’s right for the country</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would take one person with a memory card tainted by a untraceable program a high school kid could write a few minutes access to corrupt one of these tabulating machines and change the outcome at an entire polling place to any numbers he or she wants. Did that happen? I don’t know. I can tell you when Bradblog guest blogger Dori Smith asked Ken Hajjar the Director of Sales and Marketing for LHS Associates, the company that runs virtually all of New England’s elections including 80% of NH’s, “about his admission that he and his company regularly replace voting machine memory cards (the keys to the kingdom!) at will, in the middle of elections, he told her, “I mean, I don’t pay attention to every little law.”“</p>
<p>Maybe all the polling was wrong, even Obama’s that had him ahead by 14 on election day and Hillary’s that had him ahead by 11. Maybe the unadjusted exit polling that showed him winning was way off base. Maybe you’d rather not think about it because you got the results you wanted. </p>
<p>Kucinich’s challenge is an opportunity, maybe the last one we’ll have before November to discredit faith based vote counts on these machines. He probably doesn’t have enough money to do a thorough job and everybody who gives a damn about an honest election in November ought to be throwing some cash his way.</p>
<p>Trying to fit Kucinich for a tinfoil hat in this case is disgusting. These machines are endangering our democracy. Say what you want about him you’re not going to put the toothpaste back in the tube. He’s made his challenge and we ought to help do what’s right for the country</p>
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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody, where in the world do you come to such off the wall conclusions? This shows nothing about the Democratic party being in disarray, it actually shows atleast one of them was watching the poll results and saw a major flaw that threatens our national election of which is in my mind of major importance. I dislike Kucinich, but he&#039;s right to go after Diebold/Primere for not being able to do the job/simply sucking/possibly tampering.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And riding a corpse for your ideas is really, really, really, getting sad. Let Reagan rest, and realize he really wasn&#039;t that great, only average at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody, where in the world do you come to such off the wall conclusions? This shows nothing about the Democratic party being in disarray, it actually shows atleast one of them was watching the poll results and saw a major flaw that threatens our national election of which is in my mind of major importance. I dislike Kucinich, but he&#39;s right to go after Diebold/Primere for not being able to do the job/simply sucking/possibly tampering.</p>
<p>And riding a corpse for your ideas is really, really, really, getting sad. Let Reagan rest, and realize he really wasn&#39;t that great, only average at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again we can see how in disarray the Democratic party is and how fiercely the progressive element is fighting for control of the party against the more main stream liberal element.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is quite entertaining and it points out one glaring weakness in the eventual coronation of a new king.  If Hillary wins there is going to be a lot of voters on the sidelines or crossover if the GOP puts the right person on the ballot.  If Obama wins there is going to be a lot of moderate Dems who will sit on their hands or crossover. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The more I watch this infighting for the soul of the Democratic party the more I can see the GOP might actually pull this out if they elect someone such as Romney or Thompson to be their candidate.  McCain might actually be our next president with Thompson in tow.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; The Gop just needs to return to their message of fiscal responsiblity.  Strong national defense and values.  They might add one important element to bring back into the fold a whole lot of people who have been seeping away.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The government of the United States is about governing all the people.  It is not about setting social policy.  Social issues are best left with the states.  I think if they did this.  Then the message of Ronnie Reagan and the conservatives would once again come back to the forefront and put the progressives on the hot seat instead of the RR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again we can see how in disarray the Democratic party is and how fiercely the progressive element is fighting for control of the party against the more main stream liberal element.</p>
<p>This is quite entertaining and it points out one glaring weakness in the eventual coronation of a new king.  If Hillary wins there is going to be a lot of voters on the sidelines or crossover if the GOP puts the right person on the ballot.  If Obama wins there is going to be a lot of moderate Dems who will sit on their hands or crossover. </p>
<p>The more I watch this infighting for the soul of the Democratic party the more I can see the GOP might actually pull this out if they elect someone such as Romney or Thompson to be their candidate.  McCain might actually be our next president with Thompson in tow.</p>
<p> The Gop just needs to return to their message of fiscal responsiblity.  Strong national defense and values.  They might add one important element to bring back into the fold a whole lot of people who have been seeping away.</p>
<p>The government of the United States is about governing all the people.  It is not about setting social policy.  Social issues are best left with the states.  I think if they did this.  Then the message of Ronnie Reagan and the conservatives would once again come back to the forefront and put the progressives on the hot seat instead of the RR.</p>
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		<title>By: HappySurge</title>
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		<dc:creator>HappySurge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, it seems a bit unfair to frame the story in that light. &#039;He&#039;s got to be kidding me&#039;...a UFO joke...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe the mainstream media didn&#039;t report it because they were too busy talking about Hillary Clinton crying or &#039;how the pollsters got it wrong&#039; or &#039;is race an issue?&#039; Personally, I don&#039;t think Clinton would commit fraud or anyone under her. The machines however, can be messed with, no matter how bulletproof the funders that put them in place say they are, and when you have a large discrepency, it either adds up to a large mix of sensible things, or a severe problem worth looking at. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it&#039;s unfair to cast the issue in that light, because it constantly gets cast in that light. It&#039;s not a conspiracy theory to think a machine can be tampered with or can make a mistake. It&#039;s at least worth looking into, and if Representative Kucinich is willing to fund it, I don&#039;t see what makes him a lunatic for doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, it seems a bit unfair to frame the story in that light. &#39;He&#39;s got to be kidding me&#39;&#8230;a UFO joke&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe the mainstream media didn&#39;t report it because they were too busy talking about Hillary Clinton crying or &#39;how the pollsters got it wrong&#39; or &#39;is race an issue?&#39; Personally, I don&#39;t think Clinton would commit fraud or anyone under her. The machines however, can be messed with, no matter how bulletproof the funders that put them in place say they are, and when you have a large discrepency, it either adds up to a large mix of sensible things, or a severe problem worth looking at. </p>
<p>I think it&#39;s unfair to cast the issue in that light, because it constantly gets cast in that light. It&#39;s not a conspiracy theory to think a machine can be tampered with or can make a mistake. It&#39;s at least worth looking into, and if Representative Kucinich is willing to fund it, I don&#39;t see what makes him a lunatic for doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: markg8</title>
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		<dc:creator>markg8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might have something to do with the fact that AP reported that  Hooksett County where Hillary had her election night HQ Clinton  got 1100 votes, Kucinich 812 and directly below him on the AP/Politico chart Obama with 0. It stayed that way for about 15 minutes until somebody either caught it or complained and it accounted for Obama&#039;s drop to 34% from about 8pm to 8:15 on every site I saw so apparently everyone was working off AP numbers or everybody got it from the Hooksett County clerk that way. They eventually switched it to Obama 812, Kucinich 19. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But this is more likely the reason. LHS Associates run NH&#039;s and virtually all of New England&#039;s elections. I say virtually because they&#039;ve been banned in CT. 80% of the ballots in NH are counted on Diebold (now Premier) optiscan tabulators. Numerous studies made for Sec. of States from CA, OH, and FL, an examination by Princeton University, and reports, the latest of which is in last week&#039;s NY Times magazine section show all these machines not just Diebold&#039;s, but all electronic tabulators and DREs (touchscreens) to be insider vote fraud enabling junk. If you&#039;d like to see a demonstration of a optiscan just like those used in 80% of the counties in NH flipping votes click on this link and scroll down to the bottom of the post.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5537&quot;&gt;http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5537&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might have something to do with the fact that AP reported that  Hooksett County where Hillary had her election night HQ Clinton  got 1100 votes, Kucinich 812 and directly below him on the AP/Politico chart Obama with 0. It stayed that way for about 15 minutes until somebody either caught it or complained and it accounted for Obama&#39;s drop to 34% from about 8pm to 8:15 on every site I saw so apparently everyone was working off AP numbers or everybody got it from the Hooksett County clerk that way. They eventually switched it to Obama 812, Kucinich 19. </p>
<p>But this is more likely the reason. LHS Associates run NH&#39;s and virtually all of New England&#39;s elections. I say virtually because they&#39;ve been banned in CT. 80% of the ballots in NH are counted on Diebold (now Premier) optiscan tabulators. Numerous studies made for Sec. of States from CA, OH, and FL, an examination by Princeton University, and reports, the latest of which is in last week&#39;s NY Times magazine section show all these machines not just Diebold&#39;s, but all electronic tabulators and DREs (touchscreens) to be insider vote fraud enabling junk. If you&#39;d like to see a demonstration of a optiscan just like those used in 80% of the counties in NH flipping votes click on this link and scroll down to the bottom of the post.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5537">http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5537</a></p>
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