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		<title>By: cosmoetica</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16995/will-we-ever-trust-polls-again/comment-page-1/#comment-149997</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmoetica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pabel: In a to yr q: NO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pabel: In a to yr q: NO!</p>
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		<title>By: pabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>pabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments all.  to Paul&#039;s point &quot;there is an opportunity for all of us to better understand the point of view of our fellow citizen&#039;s in these increasingly complicated times&quot; -- I agree, but is it really the place of election pollsters  to help us do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments all.  to Paul&#39;s point &#8220;there is an opportunity for all of us to better understand the point of view of our fellow citizen&#39;s in these increasingly complicated times&#8221; &#8212; I agree, but is it really the place of election pollsters  to help us do that?</p>
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		<title>By: cosmoetica</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosmoetica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problems aren&#039;t polling, but calling them scientific. See the definitions below, and ask if any of this sounds like polling, esp. if you&#039;ve ever gotten a pollster&#039;s telephone call.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/scientific&quot;&gt;http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/scientific&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Main Entry:&lt;br&gt;    sci·en·tif·ic Listen to the pronunciation of scientific&lt;br&gt;Pronunciation:&lt;br&gt;    ?s?-?n-?ti-fik &lt;br&gt;Function:&lt;br&gt;    adjective &lt;br&gt;Etymology:&lt;br&gt;    Medieval Latin scientificus producing knowledge, from Latin scient-, sciens + -i- + -ficus -fic&lt;br&gt;Date:&lt;br&gt;    1589&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;: of, relating to, or exhibiting the methods or principles of science &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/science&quot;&gt;http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/science&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Main Entry:&lt;br&gt;    sci·ence Listen to the pronunciation of science&lt;br&gt;Pronunciation:&lt;br&gt;    ?s?-?n(t)s &lt;br&gt;Function:&lt;br&gt;    noun &lt;br&gt;Etymology:&lt;br&gt;    Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin scientia, from scient-, sciens having knowledge, from present participle of scire to know; perhaps akin to Sanskrit chyati he cuts off, Latin scindere to split — more at shed&lt;br&gt;Date:&lt;br&gt;    14th century&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1: the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding2 a: a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study &lt;the science of theology&gt; b: something (as a sport or technique) that may be studied or learned like systematized knowledge &lt;have it down to a science&gt;3 a: knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method b: such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena : natural science4: a system or method reconciling practical ends with scientific laws &lt;cooking is both a science and an art&gt;5capitalized : christian science</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problems aren&#39;t polling, but calling them scientific. See the definitions below, and ask if any of this sounds like polling, esp. if you&#39;ve ever gotten a pollster&#39;s telephone call.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/scientific">http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/scientific</a></p>
<p>Main Entry:<br />    sci·en·tif·ic Listen to the pronunciation of scientific<br />Pronunciation:<br />    ?s?-?n-?ti-fik <br />Function:<br />    adjective <br />Etymology:<br />    Medieval Latin scientificus producing knowledge, from Latin scient-, sciens + -i- + -ficus -fic<br />Date:<br />    1589</p>
<p>: of, relating to, or exhibiting the methods or principles of science </p>
<p><a href="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/science">http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/science</a></p>
<p>Main Entry:<br />    sci·ence Listen to the pronunciation of science<br />Pronunciation:<br />    ?s?-?n(t)s <br />Function:<br />    noun <br />Etymology:<br />    Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin scientia, from scient-, sciens having knowledge, from present participle of scire to know; perhaps akin to Sanskrit chyati he cuts off, Latin scindere to split — more at shed<br />Date:<br />    14th century</p>
<p>1: the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding2 a: a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study &lt;the science of theology&gt; b: something (as a sport or technique) that may be studied or learned like systematized knowledge &lt;have it down to a science&gt;3 a: knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method b: such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena : natural science4: a system or method reconciling practical ends with scientific laws &lt;cooking is both a science and an art&gt;5capitalized : christian science</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pollsters are accountable for their predictions in a way that pundits aren&#039;t. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I presume that pollsters will question some of their methods in a way that pundits won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pollsters are accountable for their predictions in a way that pundits aren&#39;t. </p>
<p>So I presume that pollsters will question some of their methods in a way that pundits won&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulSilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently the Vegas bookmakers got it right by predicting a Clinton win.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hopefully the pollsters will adjust  how they operate, including the selection criteria for folks they include in their samples.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Beyond just mastering predictions there is an opportunity for all of us to better understand the point of view of our fellow citizen&#039;s in these increasingly complicated times.  Some folks may have previously unconscious bias for and against women and races.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the Vegas bookmakers got it right by predicting a Clinton win.  </p>
<p>Hopefully the pollsters will adjust  how they operate, including the selection criteria for folks they include in their samples.</p>
<p>Beyond just mastering predictions there is an opportunity for all of us to better understand the point of view of our fellow citizen&#39;s in these increasingly complicated times.  Some folks may have previously unconscious bias for and against women and races.</p>
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