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Will We Ever Trust Polls Again?

Andrew Sullivan suggests that question today in this very brief post on the numbers for McCain and Obama in South Carolina.

In following the imbedded links and beyond, I stumbled on this mea culpa at Rasmussen Reports. Money quote: “It is hard to remember a time when the polling and expectations were so universally different from what really happened.”

Of course, Rasmussen is not alone in their frustrated attempts to recall such a discrepancy. Granted, there was that Truman-Dewey head-scratcher sixty years ago. But that particular comparison is hardly valid given the strides made in polling science since 1948.

Naturally, some are voicing the almost unthinkable, that it was not a problem with the polls, but with the polling places, i.e., New Hampshire is to the 2008 primaries what Florida was to the 2000 general election. But on that front, I have to agree to with Justin Gardner’s conclusion: Get over yourselves, “not everything is a conspiracy.”

In the end, perhaps the most telling take-away from the Rasmussen sentence excerpted above is this: It’s hard to remember similar discrepancies because they are, in fact, so rare. In other words, the polls and polsters get it right far more often than they get it wrong. And that means we shouldn’t ignore or discount them, rather, we should use them simply for what they are: good but imperfect guides to the largely unpredictable and unfathomable minds of individuals and communities alike.

Besides, where would the fun be, if we could predict the nominees perfectly before the votes were cast? Take it a step further: Why suffer the cost and pain of primaries and elections at all, if Rasmussen, Gallup, Zogby and the rest were able to perfectly divine our souls and tell us what we want?

Polls are polls. Votes are votes. It’s what you do, not what you say. We know this. Next subject, please.

  • PaulSilver
    Apparently the Vegas bookmakers got it right by predicting a Clinton win.

    Hopefully the pollsters will adjust how they operate, including the selection criteria for folks they include in their samples.

    Beyond just mastering predictions there is an opportunity for all of us to better understand the point of view of our fellow citizen's in these increasingly complicated times. Some folks may have previously unconscious bias for and against women and races.
  • GeorgeSorwell
    Pollsters are accountable for their predictions in a way that pundits aren't.

    So I presume that pollsters will question some of their methods in a way that pundits won't.
  • cosmoetica
    The problems aren't polling, but calling them scientific. See the definitions below, and ask if any of this sounds like polling, esp. if you've ever gotten a pollster's telephone call.

    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/scientific

    Main Entry:
    sci·en·tif·ic Listen to the pronunciation of scientific
    Pronunciation:
    \ˌsī-ən-ˈti-fik\
    Function:
    adjective
    Etymology:
    Medieval Latin scientificus producing knowledge, from Latin scient-, sciens + -i- + -ficus -fic
    Date:
    1589

    : of, relating to, or exhibiting the methods or principles of science


    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/science


    Main Entry:
    sci·ence Listen to the pronunciation of science
    Pronunciation:
    \ˈsī-ən(t)s\
    Function:
    noun
    Etymology:
    Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin scientia, from scient-, sciens having knowledge, from present participle of scire to know; perhaps akin to Sanskrit chyati he cuts off, Latin scindere to split — more at shed
    Date:
    14th century

    1: the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding2 a: a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study <the science of theology> b: something (as a sport or technique) that may be studied or learned like systematized knowledge <have it down to a science>3 a: knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method b: such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena : natural science4: a system or method reconciling practical ends with scientific laws <cooking is both a science and an art>5capitalized : christian science
  • Pete Abel
    Good comments all. to Paul's point "there is an opportunity for all of us to better understand the point of view of our fellow citizen's in these increasingly complicated times" -- I agree, but is it really the place of election pollsters to help us do that?
  • cosmoetica
    Pabel: In a to yr q: NO!
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