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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Secret&#8217; Weapons for Tuesday Predictions</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy Dibbell invited me to pass this on when I asked him about the more credible polls:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hi Paul,
This one (InsiderAdvantage) wasn&#039;t too far off: Obama 34, Edwards 33, Clinton 32; Huckabee 30, Romney 24, Thompson/McCain 11.
This one (Reuters-CSPAN-Zogby) was also fairly close, although low on all counts: Obama 31, Edwards 27, Clinton 24; Huckabee 31, Romney 25, Thompson 11, McCain 10.
This one (American Research Group) was close for the GOP but off for the Dems bigtime (Clinton 34, Obama 25, Edwards 21).
- Jeremy&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I recognize the difficulty of these kinds of polls.  Nevertheless I imagine that some pollsters are more sensitive to the constantly evolving factors that reflect the actual likely behavior of the participants such as young folks who don&#039;t have landline phones or independents who don&#039;t follow party lines.

Apparently independents had a big impact on Obama&#039;s results in Iowa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy Dibbell invited me to pass this on when I asked him about the more credible polls:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Paul,<br />
This one (InsiderAdvantage) wasn&#8217;t too far off: Obama 34, Edwards 33, Clinton 32; Huckabee 30, Romney 24, Thompson/McCain 11.<br />
This one (Reuters-CSPAN-Zogby) was also fairly close, although low on all counts: Obama 31, Edwards 27, Clinton 24; Huckabee 31, Romney 25, Thompson 11, McCain 10.<br />
This one (American Research Group) was close for the GOP but off for the Dems bigtime (Clinton 34, Obama 25, Edwards 21).<br />
- Jeremy</p></blockquote>
<p>I recognize the difficulty of these kinds of polls.  Nevertheless I imagine that some pollsters are more sensitive to the constantly evolving factors that reflect the actual likely behavior of the participants such as young folks who don&#8217;t have landline phones or independents who don&#8217;t follow party lines.</p>
<p>Apparently independents had a big impact on Obama&#8217;s results in Iowa.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Abel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Abel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a magic bullet.  I do think RCP&#039;s aggregated, state-by-state breakdowns are the best place to start, as you do, but then there&#039;s a big &quot;zeitgeist&quot; factor that plays into this, obviously, and that&#039;s where I rely TMV, Politico, etc.

What I would NOT rely on is traditional assumptions about campaign strategy.  My boss referenced in this post actually scored worse than any of us in his little survey, largely (I&#039;m convinced) because he assumed the best on-the-ground staff/organization would keep Romney and Clinton at the top of their respective ballots.  That&#039;s a decent assumption, but it completely fails to appreciate the power in this election of what I like to call the &quot;change quotient&quot; and the &quot;genuine quotient,&quot; neither of which Mitt or Hillary could offer, as was clear from posts in these three places prior to the actual caucuses.

My two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a magic bullet.  I do think RCP&#8217;s aggregated, state-by-state breakdowns are the best place to start, as you do, but then there&#8217;s a big &#8220;zeitgeist&#8221; factor that plays into this, obviously, and that&#8217;s where I rely TMV, Politico, etc.</p>
<p>What I would NOT rely on is traditional assumptions about campaign strategy.  My boss referenced in this post actually scored worse than any of us in his little survey, largely (I&#8217;m convinced) because he assumed the best on-the-ground staff/organization would keep Romney and Clinton at the top of their respective ballots.  That&#8217;s a decent assumption, but it completely fails to appreciate the power in this election of what I like to call the &#8220;change quotient&#8221; and the &#8220;genuine quotient,&#8221; neither of which Mitt or Hillary could offer, as was clear from posts in these three places prior to the actual caucuses.</p>
<p>My two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Silver</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16869/secret-weapons-for-tuesday/comment-page-1/#comment-109711</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Pete,
I was also wondering which pollsters are proving to be most accurate.
I usually go to RCP first but was wondering if another strategy or source was more accurate in accounting for all of the variables.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pete,<br />
I was also wondering which pollsters are proving to be most accurate.<br />
I usually go to RCP first but was wondering if another strategy or source was more accurate in accounting for all of the variables.<br />
p</p>
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