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		<title>By: T-Steel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16753/will-it-be-bloomberg-and-unity-in-independent-bid/comment-page-1/#comment-109247</link>
		<dc:creator>T-Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Congressional Black Caucus are a bunch of losers and are irrelevant.  I wouldn&#039;t included them in anything.  Actually they need to be dissolved.  America&#039;s issues are black folks issues and vice versa.  Enough is enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Congressional Black Caucus are a bunch of losers and are irrelevant.  I wouldn&#8217;t included them in anything.  Actually they need to be dissolved.  America&#8217;s issues are black folks issues and vice versa.  Enough is enough.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16753/will-it-be-bloomberg-and-unity-in-independent-bid/comment-page-1/#comment-109239</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unity = business-as-usual-in-oversized-Washington-managed-by-
less-threatening-elites.

It&#039;s the ultimate &quot;don&#039;t rock the oversized boat&quot; in Washington nonsense.  Big government?  Not to be questioned, even though Americans always have questioned and better Americans have routinely opposed and rejected the arrogant assumption that the solution to all problems lies in Washington and that Washington should continue to grow ever larger.

Unity and its &quot;nice, safe&quot; elitism reminds me of a Washington-insider effort in the 1980s that was one of a number of studies on constitutional reform, that is, revising our constitution and our form of government.  These elites cluck-clucked that the problem in Washington was &quot;divided government&quot; (which is to say, they were upset that there was a Republican in the White House who was not in lockstep with or a rubber stamp of a Democratic Congress).  Their solutions included, naturally, fusion of powers, and extended down to the kind of thing elites would be prone to dislike; they would have banned &quot;ticket splitting&quot; and even required voters to vote a &quot;team ticket,&quot; that is, cast a vote for all Democratic candidates or all Republican candidates.

That&#039;s what Unity smacks of, though it wants to see &quot;nicer, safer&quot; GOP big-government Republicans effectively form a single party with non-radical Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unity = business-as-usual-in-oversized-Washington-managed-by-<br />
less-threatening-elites.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the ultimate &#8220;don&#8217;t rock the oversized boat&#8221; in Washington nonsense.  Big government?  Not to be questioned, even though Americans always have questioned and better Americans have routinely opposed and rejected the arrogant assumption that the solution to all problems lies in Washington and that Washington should continue to grow ever larger.</p>
<p>Unity and its &#8220;nice, safe&#8221; elitism reminds me of a Washington-insider effort in the 1980s that was one of a number of studies on constitutional reform, that is, revising our constitution and our form of government.  These elites cluck-clucked that the problem in Washington was &#8220;divided government&#8221; (which is to say, they were upset that there was a Republican in the White House who was not in lockstep with or a rubber stamp of a Democratic Congress).  Their solutions included, naturally, fusion of powers, and extended down to the kind of thing elites would be prone to dislike; they would have banned &#8220;ticket splitting&#8221; and even required voters to vote a &#8220;team ticket,&#8221; that is, cast a vote for all Democratic candidates or all Republican candidates.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what Unity smacks of, though it wants to see &#8220;nicer, safer&#8221; GOP big-government Republicans effectively form a single party with non-radical Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice &#187; Domestic and international news analysis, irreverent comments, original reporting, and popular culture features from across the political spectrum.</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16753/will-it-be-bloomberg-and-unity-in-independent-bid/comment-page-1/#comment-109198</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we ran THIS POST which noted Bloomberg&#8217;s upcoming meeting with Unity 08, high-powered bipartisan group that is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16753/will-it-be-bloomberg-and-unity-in-independent-bid/comment-page-1/#comment-109170</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unity gives away its real agenda by its total lack of taking on very partisan black or Hsipanic politicians.  It seems that Unity wants all whites to by moderates while tolerating rapid extremist of groups like the Congressionnal Black Caucus.  Instead of running a pointless third party candidate for President, why not raise funds to find moderate blacks to run against Maxine Waters or moderate Republicans to run against the Tom Delay&#039;s of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unity gives away its real agenda by its total lack of taking on very partisan black or Hsipanic politicians.  It seems that Unity wants all whites to by moderates while tolerating rapid extremist of groups like the Congressionnal Black Caucus.  Instead of running a pointless third party candidate for President, why not raise funds to find moderate blacks to run against Maxine Waters or moderate Republicans to run against the Tom Delay&#8217;s of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unity smacks of status-quo elitism.  Maybe they are afraid of Huckabee (who eventually may be the VP selection at most) -- and the American people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unity smacks of status-quo elitism.  Maybe they are afraid of Huckabee (who eventually may be the VP selection at most) &#8212; and the American people.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16753/will-it-be-bloomberg-and-unity-in-independent-bid/comment-page-1/#comment-109162</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloomberg = anti-gun junk lawsuits = DQ by honest, decent Americans.

Broder = typical DC-sclerotic detritus.  Yuck.  I can&#039;t wait for him to be extra scummy toward Huckabee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomberg = anti-gun junk lawsuits = DQ by honest, decent Americans.</p>
<p>Broder = typical DC-sclerotic detritus.  Yuck.  I can&#8217;t wait for him to be extra scummy toward Huckabee.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of this plan is to do a more successful version of what Nader accomplished in 2000, isn&#039;t it? That&#039;s certainly the only result I see. The Republicans like Pete Abel, who would consider not voting Republican if their candidate was basically a George Bush clone, are a distinct minority so I&#039;d see a strong bid from Unity basically throwing the election to the Republicans no matter who their candidate was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of this plan is to do a more successful version of what Nader accomplished in 2000, isn&#8217;t it? That&#8217;s certainly the only result I see. The Republicans like Pete Abel, who would consider not voting Republican if their candidate was basically a George Bush clone, are a distinct minority so I&#8217;d see a strong bid from Unity basically throwing the election to the Republicans no matter who their candidate was.</p>
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		<title>By: RevDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>RevDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh please, can&#039;t we also include Lieberman is this? This is about ego and not about governance and leadership. Broder is an old fool who knows very little about the pulse of the nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh please, can&#8217;t we also include Lieberman is this? This is about ego and not about governance and leadership. Broder is an old fool who knows very little about the pulse of the nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would prefer if these Centrist leaders organized to focus on electing Centrists to Congress -  Those who would be highly concerned about improving and reforming the process of collaboration and elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would prefer if these Centrist leaders organized to focus on electing Centrists to Congress &#8211;  Those who would be highly concerned about improving and reforming the process of collaboration and elections.</p>
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		<title>By: George Sorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16753/will-it-be-bloomberg-and-unity-in-independent-bid/comment-page-1/#comment-109138</link>
		<dc:creator>George Sorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is the last time David Broder was right about anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When is the last time David Broder was right about anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Dibbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Dibbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may just be the moment we&#039;ve all been waiting for. If anybody can make a unified centrist movement happen, it&#039;s these guys. Let&#039;s finally get it done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may just be the moment we&#8217;ve all been waiting for. If anybody can make a unified centrist movement happen, it&#8217;s these guys. Let&#8217;s finally get it done!</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16753/will-it-be-bloomberg-and-unity-in-independent-bid/comment-page-1/#comment-109134</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All a Bloomberg third party run would do is give the Democrats a 50 state rout of the Republicans and give the Democrats more than 60 seats in the Senate.   

Of course, those two election results makes the Republican Party irrelevant to politics and makes the U.S. a De facto one party state but I assume that is really want is intended with a Bloomberg candidacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All a Bloomberg third party run would do is give the Democrats a 50 state rout of the Republicans and give the Democrats more than 60 seats in the Senate.   </p>
<p>Of course, those two election results makes the Republican Party irrelevant to politics and makes the U.S. a De facto one party state but I assume that is really want is intended with a Bloomberg candidacy.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be great of Bloomberg ran and if Obama doesn&#039;t get the Democratic nomination, then I would most likely vote for Bloomberg.

Forget Hillary (for me, anyway).  At one time I would have voted for her.  I forgave her Iraqi war resolution vote of a few years ago and accepted her explanation but since her Iran vote I&#039;ve come to realize that she&#039;s only saying stuff to please the &quot;base&quot; but doesn&#039;t really intend on changing anything in Iraq.  The other reason I&#039;m not voting for her is that she is a very polarizing figure.  

Obama is less polarizing than Hillary and we know where he stands with regards to the Iraq war (and other issues).  I&#039;ve posted before that I would love to see an Obama/Bloomberg ticket- but that wouldn&#039;t be likely- Bloomberg is an independent and the Dem leaders wouldn&#039;t support it (and if Bloomberg were to switch to the Dem Party the Republicans would have a field day with his flip flopping- first a Dem, then a Rep. then an Independent then a Dem).  Plus I really don&#039;t think Bloomberg would want the VP postion.  Though if Obama promised to keep all the powers of the VP that Cheney subverted from others for himself, then maybe Bloomberg would find the VP office attractive.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be great of Bloomberg ran and if Obama doesn&#8217;t get the Democratic nomination, then I would most likely vote for Bloomberg.</p>
<p>Forget Hillary (for me, anyway).  At one time I would have voted for her.  I forgave her Iraqi war resolution vote of a few years ago and accepted her explanation but since her Iran vote I&#8217;ve come to realize that she&#8217;s only saying stuff to please the &#8220;base&#8221; but doesn&#8217;t really intend on changing anything in Iraq.  The other reason I&#8217;m not voting for her is that she is a very polarizing figure.  </p>
<p>Obama is less polarizing than Hillary and we know where he stands with regards to the Iraq war (and other issues).  I&#8217;ve posted before that I would love to see an Obama/Bloomberg ticket- but that wouldn&#8217;t be likely- Bloomberg is an independent and the Dem leaders wouldn&#8217;t support it (and if Bloomberg were to switch to the Dem Party the Republicans would have a field day with his flip flopping- first a Dem, then a Rep. then an Independent then a Dem).  Plus I really don&#8217;t think Bloomberg would want the VP postion.  Though if Obama promised to keep all the powers of the VP that Cheney subverted from others for himself, then maybe Bloomberg would find the VP office attractive.  <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew MacRae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew MacRae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Bloomberg Attends Bi-Partisan Meeting To Discuss Presidential Bid! &#124; Unite For Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Bloomberg Attends Bi-Partisan Meeting To Discuss Presidential Bid! &#124; Unite For Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These leaders obviously sense both the need and the national mood which I identified in this post, Joe: http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These leaders obviously sense both the need and the national mood which I identified in this post, Joe: <a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/" rel="nofollow">http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/</a></p>
<p>Mark</p>
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