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	<title>Comments on: Poll: Giuliani Loses National Lead In Republican Presidential Nomination Race</title>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16604/poll-guiliani-loses-national-lead-in-republican-presidential-nomination-race/comment-page-1/#comment-108533</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS- I agree with you about the strategy, but doubt it will work. More details will continue to surface about his dealings with Bernie Kerik, reminding Republicans that he&#039;s made some really poor hiring choices. Also, it will become better-known that he fired his first police commissioner for getting too much credit in the media for NYC&#039;s lowered crime rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS- I agree with you about the strategy, but doubt it will work. More details will continue to surface about his dealings with Bernie Kerik, reminding Republicans that he&#8217;s made some really poor hiring choices. Also, it will become better-known that he fired his first police commissioner for getting too much credit in the media for NYC&#8217;s lowered crime rate.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll yield the floor after the following, which is in need given so much wishful thinking and imagination on the part of lefties on this site in place of what is actually happening.

Another reason besides the ridiculousness of over-valuing what may happen here in Iowa (with its much-larger-than-normal Religious Right fraction of the electorate) for waiting until after February 5, when substantial election results will be before everyone&#039;s eyes (maybe then the lefties will switch from desire and speculation to fact, one might hope) is that while it&#039;s grounds for gloating among those of us who don&#039;t like Giuliani, he is attempting a strategy that is risky but which could pay off for him.

He is deliberately avoiding the smaller states and concentrating on the Feb 5 megastates and other larger states, with more delegates (and eventually, electoral) votes at stake than those in Iowa and New Hampshire.

It&#039;s not merely that he&#039;s an unattractive RINO.  He also is trying a different campaign strategy than you are used to seeing.  You need to realize that as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll yield the floor after the following, which is in need given so much wishful thinking and imagination on the part of lefties on this site in place of what is actually happening.</p>
<p>Another reason besides the ridiculousness of over-valuing what may happen here in Iowa (with its much-larger-than-normal Religious Right fraction of the electorate) for waiting until after February 5, when substantial election results will be before everyone&#8217;s eyes (maybe then the lefties will switch from desire and speculation to fact, one might hope) is that while it&#8217;s grounds for gloating among those of us who don&#8217;t like Giuliani, he is attempting a strategy that is risky but which could pay off for him.</p>
<p>He is deliberately avoiding the smaller states and concentrating on the Feb 5 megastates and other larger states, with more delegates (and eventually, electoral) votes at stake than those in Iowa and New Hampshire.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not merely that he&#8217;s an unattractive RINO.  He also is trying a different campaign strategy than you are used to seeing.  You need to realize that as well.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hopefully a Fiscal Conservative with moderate Social conservative values. One who is comfortable with the Religious right &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely.  Someone who wants to put government on a diet, isn&#039;t accepting of scummy behavior and actually stands for standards of conduct, and isn&#039;t an anti-religious, hate-filled bigot.  (Fortunately it&#039;s not the Right that has a near monopoly on the latter.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hopefully a Fiscal Conservative with moderate Social conservative values. One who is comfortable with the Religious right </p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely.  Someone who wants to put government on a diet, isn&#8217;t accepting of scummy behavior and actually stands for standards of conduct, and isn&#8217;t an anti-religious, hate-filled bigot.  (Fortunately it&#8217;s not the Right that has a near monopoly on the latter.)</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giuliani is a RINO from a place with a political reputation alien to non-liberal Americans.  His campaign is based on celebrity appeal post-9/11.  Yuck.

I had reported this poll earlier.  Giuliani has fallen not merely in Iowa (the source of much ridiculous hype currently) but nation-wide!  Good news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giuliani is a RINO from a place with a political reputation alien to non-liberal Americans.  His campaign is based on celebrity appeal post-9/11.  Yuck.</p>
<p>I had reported this poll earlier.  Giuliani has fallen not merely in Iowa (the source of much ridiculous hype currently) but nation-wide!  Good news.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a relief. The thought of Judith Giuliani, who booked an airline seat for her oversized designer purse, attending cabinet meetings was making me nauseous. Notice how she&#039;s disappeared from sight after that suggestion sank like a lead balloon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a relief. The thought of Judith Giuliani, who booked an airline seat for her oversized designer purse, attending cabinet meetings was making me nauseous. Notice how she&#8217;s disappeared from sight after that suggestion sank like a lead balloon?</p>
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		<title>By: Megaman_X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megaman_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About friggin&#039; time. This guy has run his entire campaign on fear, terror, and 9/11, and that shouldn&#039;t be rewarded with national success. I mean, I could replace Giuliani with a robot, and I&#039;d just need to program it to say three things:
1. &quot;Islamic terrorism&quot;
2. &quot;My other wife is 9/11&quot;
3. &quot;Am I too liberal for you? I can completely change my igeology if you want.&quot;

Who would notice the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About friggin&#8217; time. This guy has run his entire campaign on fear, terror, and 9/11, and that shouldn&#8217;t be rewarded with national success. I mean, I could replace Giuliani with a robot, and I&#8217;d just need to program it to say three things:<br />
1. &#8220;Islamic terrorism&#8221;<br />
2. &#8220;My other wife is 9/11&#8243;<br />
3. &#8220;Am I too liberal for you? I can completely change my igeology if you want.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who would notice the difference?</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I respect Guillani and his achievements he is not a Conservative Republican.  He is more liberal then half the democratic candidates.  His Baggage requires more porters then the latest Amtrack to Alaska.

It is no surprise to me that the Conservative/GOP will turn to their roots and once again look for someone with integrity, virtue and conservative roots.  Hopefully a Fiscal Conservative with moderate Social conservative values.  One who is comfortable with the Religious right because despite the whacko atheists on the left this country is still predominantly Christian and it still holds many of those values dear.

If this nation chooses to reject the Conservative Ideals of the GOP then so be it.  But The party must return to is Conservative roots and put forth a candidate that exemplifies those values.  Otherwise we are just going to be seen as seeking votes at the expense of our values and traditions.

If the country rejects that.  So be it.  But it has always been our values and our conservative roots that has made the this country choose conservative presidents in 5 out of the last 7 elections.  Our values and principals are sound.  

They are missing one thing.

&lt;em&gt;Including ALL Americans. &lt;/em&gt; Because governing means governing ALL peoples and not just the 52 percent that voted you into office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I respect Guillani and his achievements he is not a Conservative Republican.  He is more liberal then half the democratic candidates.  His Baggage requires more porters then the latest Amtrack to Alaska.</p>
<p>It is no surprise to me that the Conservative/GOP will turn to their roots and once again look for someone with integrity, virtue and conservative roots.  Hopefully a Fiscal Conservative with moderate Social conservative values.  One who is comfortable with the Religious right because despite the whacko atheists on the left this country is still predominantly Christian and it still holds many of those values dear.</p>
<p>If this nation chooses to reject the Conservative Ideals of the GOP then so be it.  But The party must return to is Conservative roots and put forth a candidate that exemplifies those values.  Otherwise we are just going to be seen as seeking votes at the expense of our values and traditions.</p>
<p>If the country rejects that.  So be it.  But it has always been our values and our conservative roots that has made the this country choose conservative presidents in 5 out of the last 7 elections.  Our values and principals are sound.  </p>
<p>They are missing one thing.</p>
<p><em>Including ALL Americans. </em> Because governing means governing ALL peoples and not just the 52 percent that voted you into office.</p>
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