Comments on: McCain’s Looking For Some Joe-Mentum

By: Holly in Cincinnati

Holly in Cincinnati — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:29:09 +0000

I certainly hope that Iran “is containable via the normal modes of state-craft” but think that the heat needs to stay on.

By: David Schraub

David Schraub — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:40:35 +0000

I might have to turn in my membership in the “liberal hawk club” after this comment, but….

I think Iran, being a state, is containable via the normal modes of state-craft. It has historically proven itself quite amenable to diplomacy, on those occasions where we’ve cared to use it. Is it dangerous? Sure. Is it infinitely more dangerous when the U.S. seems hell-bent on a military confrontation with it? Absolutely. I hate to say it, but Iran’s policies vis-a-vis the United States have fit the mold of a rational actor rather well (its policies towards Israel, by contrast, significantly less so). With regards to any emerging threat of war between the US and Iran, most of the pressure has been coming from our end, and McCain and Lieberman are keeping the heat on.

By: Holly in Cincinnati

Holly in Cincinnati — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:14:18 +0000

Joe Lieberman is pretty smart. The Left (of which I am a part) characteristically underestimates the danger from Iran. Persians, BTW, aren’t any browner than we Jews. They are not Arabs.

By: Anna

Anna — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:57:37 +0000

Just because some of us don’t want to just go bombing “those brown people” willy-nilly (which is, let’s face it, what “hawks” want to do), doesn’t mean that Iran is being underestimated by the rest of us who are rational. I have this feeling that if Lieberman were president, he’d have nuked Iran already. Force is not the answer to every ill in the world and being judicious about the use of force is not “appeasement of the enemy”. A comment like this normally isn’t like me, but sometimes I just get so sick & tired of the “hawks” who don’t believe in diplomacy (when they always feel that “the enemy” is lying, how can diplomacy work?) and seem to think that anyone who does is another Hitler-appeasing Chamberlain. I never heard the “hawks” scream for invading, bombing, nuking North Korea when they were working on their bomb. Is there any “hawk” that seriously thinks that Kim Jong Il is more trustworthy than the mullahs? Someone please explain how aggression to Iran is justified when North Korea gets negotiations.

By: DLS

DLS — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:28:02 +0000

It’s denial or dishonesty — but they’ll be the first and loudest to complain We Didn’t Do Something if Iran commits an especially newsworthy attack of some kind, sets off a nuclear bomb, et cetera.

By: Holly in Cincinnati

Holly in Cincinnati — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:07:23 +0000

Folks, you vastly under-estimate the threat from Iran.

By: RevDave

RevDave — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:52:51 +0000

DLS – because Lieberman lies and slanders ABOUT the Iranian threat.

By: DLS

DLS — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:13:57 +0000

Why is Liberman subject to lies and slander simply because he isn’t so stupid he ignores the Iranian threat and prefers appeasement of our adversaries?

By: kritt

kritt — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:43:15 +0000

Holly No Democrat considers Lieberman a Democrat any more, especially after endorsing a Republican war hawk.

By: Jim Satterfield

Jim Satterfield — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:54:08 +0000

Holly,

When did you become a blind supporter of Bush’s Iraq policies? Because that’s the kind of ex-Democrat that Joe Lieberman is.

By: RevDave

RevDave — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:50:11 +0000

…when will the Broder column arrive…I am breathless with anticipation. Just when you think McCain was starting to come back, he takes on this bloated freight – the only one who respects Leiberman’s opinion anymore is Joe Leiberman.

By: Pug

Pug — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:26:35 +0000

Well, there’s one vote for the McCain-Lieberman ticket.

I’m thinking there aren’t enough to make much impact, though.

By: Holly in Cincinnati

Holly in Cincinnati — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:27:08 +0000

Joe Lieberman is a Democrat like ME – a liberal hawk. I’d prefer him to most of the presidential candidates my party is currently presenting.