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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-108002</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was no ad hominem attack here, nor is that a staple tactic of mine.  Calling things as they are and (here) posting insight doesn&#039;t merit, in turn, a true unwarranted attack on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no ad hominem attack here, nor is that a staple tactic of mine.  Calling things as they are and (here) posting insight doesn&#8217;t merit, in turn, a true unwarranted attack on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiosyncrat</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107990</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiosyncrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a headache...</description>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107988</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have said elsewhere, she&#039;s running for the Presidency officially this time.  She was unofficial President (often-the-more-powerful-and-vicious co-President) already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have said elsewhere, she&#8217;s running for the Presidency officially this time.  She was unofficial President (often-the-more-powerful-and-vicious co-President) already.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107978</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy Shaheen has &lt;a href=&quot;http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CLINTON_OBAMAS_DRUGS?SITE=CARIE&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;resigned from the Clinton campaign&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy Shaheen has <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CLINTON_OBAMAS_DRUGS?SITE=CARIE&#038;SECTION=HOME&#038;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT" rel="nofollow">resigned from the Clinton campaign</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107977</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we get back to reality?
What Hillary&#039;s campaign manager/staffer? said was that Obaman&#039;s drug use would be used by the Repubs against him.  
In that, he was absolutely correct.  There isn&#039;t anything they would fail to use against him. This will be hot campaign, after all.

Did speculating about it to a reporter have an ulterior motive?
Possibly,  Certanly, it was a mistake in these days when every breath anyone takes anywhere near a condidate is analyzed fifty different ways.

But let&#039;s not put iwords into his mouth.  He did not say it was a stain on Obma&#039;s character.  He only pointed to a possible political liability.

There is something weird about people&#039;s obseesion with Hillary.  The way people just KNOW what she is thingking and plotting at every moment  approaches the psychotic, IMO.

I&#039;ve never been a fan, but I&#039;m more a fan of Hillary&#039;s thatn I am of  this insane allocation of  every evil motivation on earth to her.  That is what truly repels me.

She is a politician.

I just watched the Dem debate.  There isn&#039;t a single one of them, nor of the Repubs, who is not coldly calculating how every word helps or hurts his prospects.  Only Hillary is the cold calculator, though, to hear folks speak.
Edwards speaks as if he would wipe corporations out of the American landscape.  How realistic is that?
Obama appears to promise he will change Anerican politics with merely the force of his character.  Can anyone believe that?
Goals are great&#039; they are essential., Knowing just how bloody the battle can be to bring even the tiniest change should count for something.  
What&#039;s more, whoever the next president will be, that person had better be calculating or he won&#039;t survive Washington for more than a week.

I&#039;m alarmed by some of Hillary&#039;s votes in the SEante.  My opinion is based on that, not on whether she is warm and cuddly.  
I&#039;m not looking for a friend.  I&#039;m looking for a president.

She flubbed some debate questions.  I&#039;m interested in her complete postions, not on how glib she can be in 10 sex. sound bites.

I&#039;m still not crazy about Hillary.  But I think she is a realist.  A realist with the right goals works better for me thant a candidate who makes heart warming speeches and makes promisses no one can deliver.

And one ot these days I&#039;ll make up my mind for whom to vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we get back to reality?<br />
What Hillary&#8217;s campaign manager/staffer? said was that Obaman&#8217;s drug use would be used by the Repubs against him.<br />
In that, he was absolutely correct.  There isn&#8217;t anything they would fail to use against him. This will be hot campaign, after all.</p>
<p>Did speculating about it to a reporter have an ulterior motive?<br />
Possibly,  Certanly, it was a mistake in these days when every breath anyone takes anywhere near a condidate is analyzed fifty different ways.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s not put iwords into his mouth.  He did not say it was a stain on Obma&#8217;s character.  He only pointed to a possible political liability.</p>
<p>There is something weird about people&#8217;s obseesion with Hillary.  The way people just KNOW what she is thingking and plotting at every moment  approaches the psychotic, IMO.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been a fan, but I&#8217;m more a fan of Hillary&#8217;s thatn I am of  this insane allocation of  every evil motivation on earth to her.  That is what truly repels me.</p>
<p>She is a politician.</p>
<p>I just watched the Dem debate.  There isn&#8217;t a single one of them, nor of the Repubs, who is not coldly calculating how every word helps or hurts his prospects.  Only Hillary is the cold calculator, though, to hear folks speak.<br />
Edwards speaks as if he would wipe corporations out of the American landscape.  How realistic is that?<br />
Obama appears to promise he will change Anerican politics with merely the force of his character.  Can anyone believe that?<br />
Goals are great&#8217; they are essential., Knowing just how bloody the battle can be to bring even the tiniest change should count for something.<br />
What&#8217;s more, whoever the next president will be, that person had better be calculating or he won&#8217;t survive Washington for more than a week.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m alarmed by some of Hillary&#8217;s votes in the SEante.  My opinion is based on that, not on whether she is warm and cuddly.<br />
I&#8217;m not looking for a friend.  I&#8217;m looking for a president.</p>
<p>She flubbed some debate questions.  I&#8217;m interested in her complete postions, not on how glib she can be in 10 sex. sound bites.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not crazy about Hillary.  But I think she is a realist.  A realist with the right goals works better for me thant a candidate who makes heart warming speeches and makes promisses no one can deliver.</p>
<p>And one ot these days I&#8217;ll make up my mind for whom to vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107973</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;DLS:&lt;/em&gt;

What it implies is that I can&#039;t be plastered with simple labels, which you do &lt;em&gt;ad hominem&lt;/em&gt; and with mind-numbing regularity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>DLS:</em></p>
<p>What it implies is that I can&#8217;t be plastered with simple labels, which you do <em>ad hominem</em> and with mind-numbing regularity.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107971</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;my politics are usually left of center and I certainly have looked forward to the end of the Republican presidential interregnum&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Revealing and unsurprising -- did anyone else see this, and what it implies about what is &quot;normal&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>my politics are usually left of center and I certainly have looked forward to the end of the Republican presidential interregnum</p></blockquote>
<p>Revealing and unsurprising &#8212; did anyone else see this, and what it implies about what is &#8220;normal&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107970</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Likability counts for next to nothing as far as I am concerned. Smarts and toughness counts. A heart on the right side of the issues counts. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good -- then to meet all three criteria you cannot honestly support someone like Eliot Spitzer [retch]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Likability counts for next to nothing as far as I am concerned. Smarts and toughness counts. A heart on the right side of the issues counts. </p></blockquote>
<p>Good &#8212; then to meet all three criteria you cannot honestly support someone like Eliot Spitzer [retch]</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107969</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Somebody:
&lt;/em&gt;
A wee clarification. Bush has been fairly forthcoming about his abuse of alcohol, although he did not acknowledge being arrested for drunk driving until that was revealed in a newspaper report.  He never has been forthcoming about his abuse of cocaine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Somebody:<br />
</em><br />
A wee clarification. Bush has been fairly forthcoming about his abuse of alcohol, although he did not acknowledge being arrested for drunk driving until that was revealed in a newspaper report.  He never has been forthcoming about his abuse of cocaine.</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107968</link>
		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Political correctness is SO powerful today that Hillary has nothing to throw at Obama that is not considered smear tactics and an enormous lack of political savvy.

If she says nothing...shes weak.......if she says anything shes smearing or a racist.

The facts are.......Obama did drugs.  Bush had to fess up to his........Obama should have to face up to his.  Obviously they did not hinder Bush so they should not hinder Obama.

Yet Hillary is in a no win situation.  The hype of her candidacy for 8 years CANNOT match the reality.  Anything less then 65 percent in numbers and she is losing, worthless and a failure.

She is the victim of her own success.  The greatest miscalculation in the history of Politics.  Had she deflected a run for President for the first 4 year.  Not rule it out but put a damper on it then she would have done much better today........as it is after 8 years we are TIRED of hearing about Hillary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Political correctness is SO powerful today that Hillary has nothing to throw at Obama that is not considered smear tactics and an enormous lack of political savvy.</p>
<p>If she says nothing&#8230;shes weak&#8230;&#8230;.if she says anything shes smearing or a racist.</p>
<p>The facts are&#8230;&#8230;.Obama did drugs.  Bush had to fess up to his&#8230;&#8230;..Obama should have to face up to his.  Obviously they did not hinder Bush so they should not hinder Obama.</p>
<p>Yet Hillary is in a no win situation.  The hype of her candidacy for 8 years CANNOT match the reality.  Anything less then 65 percent in numbers and she is losing, worthless and a failure.</p>
<p>She is the victim of her own success.  The greatest miscalculation in the history of Politics.  Had she deflected a run for President for the first 4 year.  Not rule it out but put a damper on it then she would have done much better today&#8230;&#8230;..as it is after 8 years we are TIRED of hearing about Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly the blogger nation thinks this is some sort of big deal, but sorry, I don&#039;t. It&#039;s nothing more than a wee bit of grade school level political lowball that won&#039;t even register on Main Street.

Having Willie Horton running around your neighborhood resonates on Main Street........what one campaign operative says about candidate wraps tomorrow&#039;s fishbones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly the blogger nation thinks this is some sort of big deal, but sorry, I don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s nothing more than a wee bit of grade school level political lowball that won&#8217;t even register on Main Street.</p>
<p>Having Willie Horton running around your neighborhood resonates on Main Street&#8230;&#8230;..what one campaign operative says about candidate wraps tomorrow&#8217;s fishbones.</p>
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		<title>By: PWT</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107966</link>
		<dc:creator>PWT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jammer, I believe that you&#039;re incorrect when you write that Mrs. Clinton is not running as the incumbent.  She is not running as one who held the office of President but as one who held the vice presidency.   She continually touts her white house experience as qualification for the position of president.  Whether its true or not, her experience, we don&#039;t know, but she constantly trots out her white house years to bolster her credentials.

Please note, this is the second time that I&#039;ve agreed with the content of a post by Shaun Mullen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jammer, I believe that you&#8217;re incorrect when you write that Mrs. Clinton is not running as the incumbent.  She is not running as one who held the office of President but as one who held the vice presidency.   She continually touts her white house experience as qualification for the position of president.  Whether its true or not, her experience, we don&#8217;t know, but she constantly trots out her white house years to bolster her credentials.</p>
<p>Please note, this is the second time that I&#8217;ve agreed with the content of a post by Shaun Mullen.</p>
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		<title>By: jammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun, fair enough.  Read your article last week with thanks.  I dont find the issue being debated today perverse but HRC has now personally apologized to Obama so maybe we can close the chapter.

I hear what you are saying on party votes.  A too like McCain although as in allegations made re HRC and Romney that they constantly change their opinion to suit voters, this charge sadly applies to McCain too and I dont really know where he stands anymore compared to the attractive candidate of 2000.  My personal interest is in the Supreme Court which i think needs to be elevated on everyone&#039;s list of important presidential issues.  It was my greatest fear of a W election (who could have seen 9-11 coming) but so many people found W so likable and wanted to have a beer with him.  Likability counts for next to nothing as far as I am concerned.  Smarts and toughness counts.  A heart on the right side of the issues counts.    I am personally determined to do everything I can to avoid another Alito, Scalia, Roberts, Thomas nomination which will tip the Court for decades in a direction I dont want to go.  In that respect, my decision will almost certainly be a party decision this time out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun, fair enough.  Read your article last week with thanks.  I dont find the issue being debated today perverse but HRC has now personally apologized to Obama so maybe we can close the chapter.</p>
<p>I hear what you are saying on party votes.  A too like McCain although as in allegations made re HRC and Romney that they constantly change their opinion to suit voters, this charge sadly applies to McCain too and I dont really know where he stands anymore compared to the attractive candidate of 2000.  My personal interest is in the Supreme Court which i think needs to be elevated on everyone&#8217;s list of important presidential issues.  It was my greatest fear of a W election (who could have seen 9-11 coming) but so many people found W so likable and wanted to have a beer with him.  Likability counts for next to nothing as far as I am concerned.  Smarts and toughness counts.  A heart on the right side of the issues counts.    I am personally determined to do everything I can to avoid another Alito, Scalia, Roberts, Thomas nomination which will tip the Court for decades in a direction I dont want to go.  In that respect, my decision will almost certainly be a party decision this time out.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16499/hillary-clinton-armed-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-107961</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Jammer:&lt;/em&gt;

Any politician is fair game for past indiscretions, but what HRC has done through her proxy is especially perverse because (1.) Obama himself has made a clean breast of his indiscretions, and (2.) the proxy &quot;warned&quot; that Republicans will engage in fear mongering and character assassination while doing that very thing on Mrs. Clinton&#039;s behalf.

FYI, I addressed the sickos who have gone after Bill and Hill &lt;a href=&quot;http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16398/wayne-dumond-when-politics-can-kill/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; just last week. 

Finally, candidates have to earn my vote; they don&#039;t automatically get it because of their party affiliation.  I vote for more Republicans than Democrats because they typically field better candidates and the state and local level where I live.

Hillary has &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; earned my vote, but she has 11 months to do so.  If McCain is the GOP nominee he too will have to earn my vote, but I could see voting for him over Mrs. Clinton if push comes to shove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Jammer:</em></p>
<p>Any politician is fair game for past indiscretions, but what HRC has done through her proxy is especially perverse because (1.) Obama himself has made a clean breast of his indiscretions, and (2.) the proxy &#8220;warned&#8221; that Republicans will engage in fear mongering and character assassination while doing that very thing on Mrs. Clinton&#8217;s behalf.</p>
<p>FYI, I addressed the sickos who have gone after Bill and Hill <a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16398/wayne-dumond-when-politics-can-kill/" rel="nofollow">here</a> just last week. </p>
<p>Finally, candidates have to earn my vote; they don&#8217;t automatically get it because of their party affiliation.  I vote for more Republicans than Democrats because they typically field better candidates and the state and local level where I live.</p>
<p>Hillary has <em>not</em> earned my vote, but she has 11 months to do so.  If McCain is the GOP nominee he too will have to earn my vote, but I could see voting for him over Mrs. Clinton if push comes to shove.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drug use is only one prong of the Clinton campaign&#039;s panicky personal attacks on Obama as he closes in on her in the polls. There are Rovian smears about real estate deals, Nixon-like slush funds and allegations about trying to get out-of-state students to vote in the Iowa caucuses.  Sad...

http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/12/blackening-obama.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drug use is only one prong of the Clinton campaign&#8217;s panicky personal attacks on Obama as he closes in on her in the polls. There are Rovian smears about real estate deals, Nixon-like slush funds and allegations about trying to get out-of-state students to vote in the Iowa caucuses.  Sad&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/12/blackening-obama.html" rel="nofollow">http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/12/blackening-obama.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So as I understand it, philandering by Bill and his pot use is fair game but cocaine and Obama is dirty pool?  When he himself raised the issue in his book?  This is exactly what i have been hearing from Democrats all season so you will excuse me if I dont get all fired up about this issue.  Obama himself (and Edwards) have all but called HRC a liar.  Others have variously accused her over the years of murder, drug dealing, enabling a sexual predator, a shrew, a bitch, a cackler, a thief, etc.  Where were any of our brave commentators when that was happening?  It strikes some of us that there is rank hypocrisy going on here which angers us, and its not from her.  Anyone can say the most despicable things about HRC (and Bill) every single night and day,  and no one comes to her defense like they have with this comment by her NH manager.  And throughout all of the crap the Repubs threw at Bill there is no evidence whatsoever that he misused the powers of his office to try to destroy his enemies, so I find your comment that this incident illustrates that HRC would be a dangerous President most disingenuous.  She is a fighter, and she wont go down without a fight.  She has been called everything under the sun so my guess is she didnt think people had such a thin skin about a comment about Obama when he will face far worse in the general election.  More importantly for the general election, the visceral hatred being shown for HRC by some Democrats runs the risk of splitting the party and dampening the vote.  Heck,you yourself leave open the possibility of voting Republican if she is the nominee (unless the Repub nominee is even less acceptable.  Query: which ones would be more acceptable?).  

So there you have it.  I have been a supporter of Bill since 1991 when I saw that he too was a fighter and could win.  I have sympathies for his much maligned wife who has done precious little to deserve the crud thrown at her other than preserve her marriage.  I am open to Obama and like some of what he offers.  But I dont find any return similar thoughts from Dems who hate her, and I am mighty offended by what I have heard from bloggers and voters about HRC over the past few months and I am not alone.  How do we get out of this mess?  I dont know.

Lastly, she has not run as an incumbent, I have never heard her say she was inevitable or had some sort of entitlement.  I have heard a lot of Dems and dumb talking TV heads say that, but never her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So as I understand it, philandering by Bill and his pot use is fair game but cocaine and Obama is dirty pool?  When he himself raised the issue in his book?  This is exactly what i have been hearing from Democrats all season so you will excuse me if I dont get all fired up about this issue.  Obama himself (and Edwards) have all but called HRC a liar.  Others have variously accused her over the years of murder, drug dealing, enabling a sexual predator, a shrew, a bitch, a cackler, a thief, etc.  Where were any of our brave commentators when that was happening?  It strikes some of us that there is rank hypocrisy going on here which angers us, and its not from her.  Anyone can say the most despicable things about HRC (and Bill) every single night and day,  and no one comes to her defense like they have with this comment by her NH manager.  And throughout all of the crap the Repubs threw at Bill there is no evidence whatsoever that he misused the powers of his office to try to destroy his enemies, so I find your comment that this incident illustrates that HRC would be a dangerous President most disingenuous.  She is a fighter, and she wont go down without a fight.  She has been called everything under the sun so my guess is she didnt think people had such a thin skin about a comment about Obama when he will face far worse in the general election.  More importantly for the general election, the visceral hatred being shown for HRC by some Democrats runs the risk of splitting the party and dampening the vote.  Heck,you yourself leave open the possibility of voting Republican if she is the nominee (unless the Repub nominee is even less acceptable.  Query: which ones would be more acceptable?).  </p>
<p>So there you have it.  I have been a supporter of Bill since 1991 when I saw that he too was a fighter and could win.  I have sympathies for his much maligned wife who has done precious little to deserve the crud thrown at her other than preserve her marriage.  I am open to Obama and like some of what he offers.  But I dont find any return similar thoughts from Dems who hate her, and I am mighty offended by what I have heard from bloggers and voters about HRC over the past few months and I am not alone.  How do we get out of this mess?  I dont know.</p>
<p>Lastly, she has not run as an incumbent, I have never heard her say she was inevitable or had some sort of entitlement.  I have heard a lot of Dems and dumb talking TV heads say that, but never her.</p>
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		<title>By: bookworm</title>
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		<dc:creator>bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Sullivan has an interesting post from a reader that points out the racial problem for Hilary.  Apparently on black oriented radio talk shows, there was a great deal of resentment over Penn&#039;s mention of drug dealing.  When the drug issue came up with Bush and other white politicians drug dealing was &lt;strong&gt;never&lt;/strong&gt;mentioned.  Why bring up dealing when smearing a black political figure?  The reader thinks this could be the beginning of a defection.  It that&#039;s the case, she&#039;s toast in South Carolina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Sullivan has an interesting post from a reader that points out the racial problem for Hilary.  Apparently on black oriented radio talk shows, there was a great deal of resentment over Penn&#8217;s mention of drug dealing.  When the drug issue came up with Bush and other white politicians drug dealing was <strong>never</strong>mentioned.  Why bring up dealing when smearing a black political figure?  The reader thinks this could be the beginning of a defection.  It that&#8217;s the case, she&#8217;s toast in South Carolina.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that big a deal, Shaun.  She&#039;s an enormous hypocrite taking a cheap shot at Obama while trying to appear more  r-e-s-p-o-n-s-i-b-l-e.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that big a deal, Shaun.  She&#8217;s an enormous hypocrite taking a cheap shot at Obama while trying to appear more  r-e-s-p-o-n-s-i-b-l-e.</p>
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