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	<title>Comments on: A Tale of Two Convictions (Black and Vick)</title>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16455/a-tale-of-two-convictions-black-and-vick/comment-page-1/#comment-107785</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Lynx. Many blacks still think OJ is innocent to this day. In DC many black juries won&#039;t convict a black defendent. Its sad but true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Lynx. Many blacks still think OJ is innocent to this day. In DC many black juries won&#8217;t convict a black defendent. Its sad but true.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;DLS lol, the way you describe it, it sounds like summer camp with a fence. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

We used to say, &quot;The fence is to keep others out rather than to keep the &#039;&lt;em&gt;residents&lt;/em&gt;&#039; in.&quot;  (They&#039;re not &lt;em&gt;inmates&lt;/em&gt;, which is a negative term that demeans them, and they don&#039;t wear uniforms, and the staff -- don&#039;t call them &quot;guards&quot; -- don&#039;t carry guns.  These were facts as of when I had toured the place.  Nice carpeting, building interiors, and landscaping with patio, I recall.)  

[visiting regulations -- FCI is the main &quot;prison&quot;]

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All visits will be conducted in the visiting room and established &lt;strong&gt;patio areas &lt;/strong&gt;of the
FCI and FPC. Visiting at the FDC will be conducted only inside the visiting room.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I remember working in a department store and fellow employees got in trouble for refusing to sell clothing to the people who would come from the facility to buy clothing for the &lt;em&gt;residents&lt;/em&gt;.  Our tax dollars at work.

I forget if there ever were any pregnancies there.

The nature of the place hopefully has changed by now, though at the risk of standard problems such as overcrowding -- the individual rooms could well now hold two or three persons each.  It was sure nice when I toured it, long ago, and yes, ordinary clothing was being purchased at local stores for the &lt;em&gt;residents&lt;/em&gt;.  Maybe they wear uniforms now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>DLS lol, the way you describe it, it sounds like summer camp with a fence. </p></blockquote>
<p>We used to say, &#8220;The fence is to keep others out rather than to keep the &#8216;<em>residents</em>&#8216; in.&#8221;  (They&#8217;re not <em>inmates</em>, which is a negative term that demeans them, and they don&#8217;t wear uniforms, and the staff &#8212; don&#8217;t call them &#8220;guards&#8221; &#8212; don&#8217;t carry guns.  These were facts as of when I had toured the place.  Nice carpeting, building interiors, and landscaping with patio, I recall.)  </p>
<p>[visiting regulations -- FCI is the main "prison"]</p>
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All visits will be conducted in the visiting room and established <strong>patio areas </strong>of the<br />
FCI and FPC. Visiting at the FDC will be conducted only inside the visiting room.</p></blockquote>
<p>I remember working in a department store and fellow employees got in trouble for refusing to sell clothing to the people who would come from the facility to buy clothing for the <em>residents</em>.  Our tax dollars at work.</p>
<p>I forget if there ever were any pregnancies there.</p>
<p>The nature of the place hopefully has changed by now, though at the risk of standard problems such as overcrowding &#8212; the individual rooms could well now hold two or three persons each.  It was sure nice when I toured it, long ago, and yes, ordinary clothing was being purchased at local stores for the <em>residents</em>.  Maybe they wear uniforms now.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS lol, the way you describe it, it sounds like summer camp with a fence. 

I may be crucified for this, but may in inquire as to the race of the Animal Abuser fans? Because it wouldn&#039;t surprise me in the least if they were overwhelmingly black. The same sort of thing happened with OJ. Apparently some blacks are so desperate to have examples of others who have &quot;made it&quot; that they will get behind any piece of human garbage, as long as he&#039;s black. Even worse, the standard of &quot;making it&quot; for many black teens is reduced to being a sports star or a rap star. These same people would not vote for Obama for not being &quot;black enough&quot;.

Mind you, I have no doubt that there are legions within the black community that deplore Michael Vick for his actions and for serving as yet another poor example for black teens, as if they needed any more. But the fact remains that the deification of material richness within the black community holds strong, while moral richness, the kind that precludes animal cruelty, the kind that realizes that being a father is more than impregnating a girl, seems to fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS lol, the way you describe it, it sounds like summer camp with a fence. </p>
<p>I may be crucified for this, but may in inquire as to the race of the Animal Abuser fans? Because it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me in the least if they were overwhelmingly black. The same sort of thing happened with OJ. Apparently some blacks are so desperate to have examples of others who have &#8220;made it&#8221; that they will get behind any piece of human garbage, as long as he&#8217;s black. Even worse, the standard of &#8220;making it&#8221; for many black teens is reduced to being a sports star or a rap star. These same people would not vote for Obama for not being &#8220;black enough&#8221;.</p>
<p>Mind you, I have no doubt that there are legions within the black community that deplore Michael Vick for his actions and for serving as yet another poor example for black teens, as if they needed any more. But the fact remains that the deification of material richness within the black community holds strong, while moral richness, the kind that precludes animal cruelty, the kind that realizes that being a father is more than impregnating a girl, seems to fail.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve lived in Atlanta.  It&#039;s no surprise what you report.

* * *

Conrad Black: If it&#039;s a federal court, he&#039;s going to Club Fed.  I grew up next to one of these.  I got to tour it as a child and I didn&#039;t understand why the adults were so angry; I thought the place was truly beautiful.  The dormitory I lived in for a year much later was truly shabby and Spartan by contrast!

Club Fed in the Bay Area: home of children of the very wealthy (celebrity criminals and others who were drug violators) and some Soviet spies long ago -- we&#039;re nice to theirs, they may be nicer to ours.

Club Fed in Texas: &quot;We know who the prisoners are.  They&#039;re the ones with the suntans.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lived in Atlanta.  It&#8217;s no surprise what you report.</p>
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<p>Conrad Black: If it&#8217;s a federal court, he&#8217;s going to Club Fed.  I grew up next to one of these.  I got to tour it as a child and I didn&#8217;t understand why the adults were so angry; I thought the place was truly beautiful.  The dormitory I lived in for a year much later was truly shabby and Spartan by contrast!</p>
<p>Club Fed in the Bay Area: home of children of the very wealthy (celebrity criminals and others who were drug violators) and some Soviet spies long ago &#8212; we&#8217;re nice to theirs, they may be nicer to ours.</p>
<p>Club Fed in Texas: &#8220;We know who the prisoners are.  They&#8217;re the ones with the suntans.&#8221;</p>
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